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nubious
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Re: is it possible to be a reflection of yourself? [Re: CleverName]
#2614509 - 04/29/04 01:37 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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CleverName said: eventually, every empire will fall. evolution baby. just about 50 years ago there was segregation and women and minorities had little rights. we really have moved ahead in many areas, mostly humaniterian, which are the most important, i believe.
education around the world is the highest ever. science is reaching new levels of understanding and discovery everday. technology is amazing.
our founding fathers were as corrupt as any gov't official today, and of the roman empire times. those in power are usually corrupt to a degree.
america really is the best country to live in. i consider myself damn lucky to have been born here, even though i dont agree with most politicians, and i hate the fact the leaders of this earth are driven by greed, power, and money...and i dont think its good that when american commerce sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold...
I personally feel that the education system is far too expensive, however good the education is. It's creating a mass gap between (and pardon my medeivil (sp? - so tired) reference) the 'upper' and 'lower' "classes". The poor are getting poorer, while the rich improve things only the rich are concerned with, and the people going to school are usually the ones brainwashed into taking orders, repeating phrases out of textbooks, rather than thinking for themselves and making decisions that will be better for everyone.
I italisized segregation, because it's the perfect example of how education is now-a-days. The smart people aren't educated, but the sheep are.. Odd, no? Fuck degrees, fuck politicians, and fuck americans (notice the de-capitlization) who don't realise that they're PROGRAMMED to believe they live in the best country in the world. (please don't take offense - this isn't a direct attack on you). I've gone to school in both Canada and the States, and my god, I couldn't believe what they teach you down there!
I'm trying REALLY hard not to rant too much here, and I'm glad you realise that politicians are driven by greed, but hey, did YOU vote last referrendum, and if so, did things turn out the way YOU wanted?
Government in general is losing it's 'kick' - people haven't been happy with politicians for decades, yet we continue to let them push our countries (Canada included) in directions driven by false motives. With all this technology (and I agree, it IS wonderful), you'd think we'd be able to have an (inter)national voting system or something - Fuck countries, fuck ownership, fuck my God is bigger than your God.. WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST FUCKING GET ALONG?@#?%@#?!%
I'm sorry. I dislike being lowerclass, and I see stepping over people as the only real way to get ahead in life (it's done everywhere). I refuse to curb my morals to further myself monetarily.
In closing, I state (yet again), fuck the states.
-------------------- No one knows the worth of innocence till he knows it is gone forever, and that money can't buy it back. Not the saint, but the sinner that repenteth, is he to whom the full length and breadth, and height and depth, of life's meaning is revealed. Good and evil loose all objective meaning and are seen as equally necessary and contrasting elements in the masterpiece that is the universe.
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Frog
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Alan Stone]
#2614539 - 04/29/04 01:43 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I feel the same as you do. I have learned to live in my own world, happily. I am not the same as other people. So, even though I love people, I sort of avoid them in a sense. I'm different from them. But I used to see that as a negative reflection, some how, of me. Now I see that it is a reflection of them.
I had an interesting experience recently that has caused me to think about this a little more lately. Interesting that you started a thread.
I am sharing an office with a paralegal and an attorney. The paralegal did something that sucked me in, cluelessly, that would have meant we were pulling a fast one on the other attorney. When I realized what was going on, after the fact, I went and told the other attorney about it right up front, told him I didn't know until too late what was going on, and I gave him all the money I made on the deal.
But it made me look at that paralegal, who lives like so many others who make up the legal profession: For the money, no matter who it hurts. Everything revolves around "what's in it for me", rather than around the relationship. I'd rather have the relationship.
Most people would not have done what I did. But I could give fuck-all about money, although I wouldn't mind getting some, okay, LOTS, but without fucking people over to get it.
What is with the world? Why do people worry? Why are people so self-centered? Why are people unhappy? Why do people hurt other people?
So, in answer, a very long answer, I don't feel I belong here. But I have learned how to live here. Very carefully.
-------------------- The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire. -Teilard
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Alan Stone
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Re: is it possible to be a reflection of yourself? [Re: CleverName]
#2614955 - 04/29/04 03:45 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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america really is the best country to live in.
I disagree. On this side of the pond, we have education and health care that are affordable for every layer of society. When you're unemployed, you get cash from the government to be able to survive. Can't you judge a nation by how it treats its worst-off citizens? We do have higher taxes, but the government gives you quite a bit back in return. For instance a single, working class parent doesn't have to work two full-time jobs to be able to support her/his kids.
-------------------- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. - Aristotle
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Alan Stone
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Frog]
#2614958 - 04/29/04 03:47 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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When I realized what was going on, after the fact, I went and told the other attorney about it right up front, told him I didn't know until too late what was going on, and I gave him all the money I made on the deal.
Now that's sticking to your ideals! If I hadn't rated you already, I'd do so now.
-------------------- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. - Aristotle
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Strumpling
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Alan Stone]
#2615006 - 04/29/04 04:10 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I feel like I belong here on Earth for now just as much as anybody else heh..
I think that if I somehow didn't belong here on Earth, nobody else would either, or something like that
-------------------- Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me. In addition: SHPONGLE
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MAIA
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Alan Stone]
#2615166 - 04/29/04 07:04 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you feel like you belong on this planet?
I grew up looking at the stars and learning about them since i was 5. I wondered about going "up there" someday. I'm also physically allergic to most airborne organic compounds but none synthetic and although i behave like a human being, my mind frame seems completely different from most people. I feel human but i also feel that i came from somewhere else, i feel my place is here now but for some reason there's something about the stars, a call which is always there.... how can it be ?
MAIA
-------------------- Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
 Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy. Voltaire
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Jellric
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Alan Stone]
#2615478 - 04/29/04 09:54 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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A stranger in a strange land, eh?
I believe in the pre-existence of the soul so I view such feelings as a kind of vague lingering memory from when one existed in the spiritual realm where one resides between lives. Some would counter that all memories are erased prior to beginning our current lives, but I would argue that no force can completely erase the memory of heaven- it's just that good!! Once you've tasted it, nothing can overwrite it! 
I also suspect that the Garden of Eden myth is a reflection of the same inner knowing. Most of us probably have a feeling that as fouled up as the world is, we originated in a place of purity and love and we long to return, but we don't know where or how. Others may take this same pining and translate it as being from a far flung solar system- space brothers and the like.
The important thing to remember is that for now our work is here on Earth. We can work to make Earth more like heaven although this world will likely always be a pale reflection at best.
Stay grounded. Stay humble. See you at the finish line!
-------------------- I AM what Willis was talkin' bout.
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Jellric]
#2615591 - 04/29/04 10:33 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Very nice, what you wrote, Jell.
-------------------- The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire. -Teilard
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Swami
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Alan Stone]
#2615600 - 04/29/04 10:41 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you feel like you belong on this planet?
What are our other options?
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Swami]
#2616309 - 04/29/04 01:11 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would tell you to use your imagination but at this point its obvious you dont have one
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ChiefThunderbong
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: DoctorJ]
#2616372 - 04/29/04 01:21 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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-------------------- Yeah spinnin' around again yea caught in a tailspin
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Jellric
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: DoctorJ]
#2616597 - 04/29/04 01:55 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey now, just because the Swamster has a non-functioning right hemisphere is no reason to jest!
-------------------- I AM what Willis was talkin' bout.
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fireworks_god
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Jellric]
#2616632 - 04/29/04 01:58 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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*posts just to also poke fun at Swami's lack of imagination, and also include with the short statement a laughing out loud emoticon, in order to get four similar posts in a row, to blow Swami's mind* 

 Peace.
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If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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silversoul7
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: Jellric]
#2616670 - 04/29/04 02:03 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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OMG let's all laugh at the guy who does doesn't take things people say at face value. Rofflez!
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fireworks_god
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: silversoul7]
#2616681 - 04/29/04 02:05 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let's also laugh at the guy who is in intensive training to be the replacement Swami! 
Sorry man, couldn't resist. I just posted to have some fun. 
 Peace.
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If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Jellric
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Re: Do you belong on this planet? [Re: fireworks_god]
#2616743 - 04/29/04 02:12 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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We do it out of love. And hell, it's fun too!
-------------------- I AM what Willis was talkin' bout.
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captiveharmony
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Re: is it possible to be a reflection of yourself? [Re: AbFab]
#2620261 - 04/30/04 07:01 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I hear you AbFab... and that's wonderful 
But yes... so many things are so corrupt. With everything that's going on in the world it's really amazing when people can find their own values and actually stick to them.
And about governments being destroyed and new societies being built up... that makes much sense. I once read something about how evil has to keep being stirred around in the universe or else it starts to concentrate in certain places... and that's when things get really bad.
-------------------- always in love
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