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Re: Old photo of Canada's PM in brown-face surfaced [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Brownface. They even do racism more politely in Canada.

Its blackface.



We have blackface for you Dutch sorts, too:

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An event attended by Cloverdale-Langley City Conservative candidate Tamara Jansen and hosted by her family business featured entertainers in blackface.

Requests by CBC to speak with Jansen were not responded to, however Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer did comment.

"To my knowledge [Jansen] herself has not [worn blackface] and she has not lied about it," said Scheer.

"I don't believe it's the same comparable at all to Justin Trudeau who personally has been shown to be conducting himself like that and then being unable to tell the truth to Canadians about it."

Photos of the traditional Dutch Christmas Sinterklaas Celebration at the Jansen-owned Milner Gardens started circulating on social media soon after images and video of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wearing black and brown face surfaced.

The Sinterklaas images are from 2015 and 2016 and show performers playing the role of Zwarte Piet or Black Peter in full blackface.

In Dutch folklore, Black Peter is Sinterklaas' impish helper who delivers gifts. According to some historical interpretations, the original Black Peter was Saint Nicholas' Moorish slave or servant.

Langley resident Eruore Vese said he's tried to bring attention to the blackface element of his town's Sinterklaas event for years.



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'Couldn't believe what I was seeing'

Vese said he was particularly upset to find Black Peter photos on the Sinterklaas Celebration website.

"I couldn't believe what I was seeing," said Vese. "This [event] is still ongoing in Langley as of last year and people I know go to it."

"When my kids were younger I tried to explain to them why they were [wearing blackface,]" said Vese. "My kids are mixed race. I had to tell them I don't know why."

Controversy over the Sinterklaas Celebration first reared its head in 2011 when the New Westminster Quay cancelled the event over complaints about Black Peter.

In 2015, the United Nations said the character of Zwarte Piet was "an expression of racism and discrimination" related to slavery.

In the Netherlands, the presence of blackface Black Peters in the annual Saint Nicholas parade has led to violent confrontations between those who support the tradition versus those who argue it is racist.

Parade organizer and public broadcaster NTR has announced for this year parade, Black Peters will have sooty faces only to reflect an alternative interpretation of a character whose face gets dirty from going up and down chimneys.

The Sinterklaus Celebration moved from Milner Gardens to the Cloverdale Rodeo grounds in 2017.

Recent photos on the event website appear to show Black Peter performers wearing full face makeup in colours other than black.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/langley-conservative-candidate-mum-on-connection-to-blackface-performers-1.5291357

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Re: Old photo of Canada's PM in brown-face surfaced [Re: Tantrika] * 1
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Its a very big thing in Holland which is why I;m so outspoken against it.


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Re: Old photo of Canada's PM in brown-face surfaced [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
qman said:
You're not going to be proud in the future of some of your behavior, you're going to apologize and accept your label that's assigned to you. Instead of enjoying the act of condemning others, you will be the condemned. It really fucking sucks when that happens.  :lol:



I'm not proud of some of my past behavior, but I have never behaved in a way that is conducive to condemnation.

Drug law violations excepted, but I'm not "not proud" of that behavior either.

That's the thing I think you don't get. This isn't something I worry about. PC culture doesn't affect me. Just like the US soldier getting PTSD bombing Iraqi kids doesn;t affect me. I'm not the soldier, and I'm not the kid. Not my PTSD, not my family.



Well, Trudeau also thought that PC culture wouldn't affect him negatively and it did. 

Trudeau always thought he would use PC rules against people and enjoy the power that comes with that condemnation.

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Re: Old photo of Canada's PM in brown-face surfaced [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
Kryptos said:
qman said:
You're not going to be proud in the future of some of your behavior, you're going to apologize and accept your label that's assigned to you. Instead of enjoying the act of condemning others, you will be the condemned. It really fucking sucks when that happens.  :lol:



I'm not proud of some of my past behavior, but I have never behaved in a way that is conducive to condemnation.

Drug law violations excepted, but I'm not "not proud" of that behavior either.

That's the thing I think you don't get. This isn't something I worry about. PC culture doesn't affect me. Just like the US soldier getting PTSD bombing Iraqi kids doesn;t affect me. I'm not the soldier, and I'm not the kid. Not my PTSD, not my family.



Well, Trudeau also thought that PC culture wouldn't affect him negatively and it did. 

Trudeau always thought he would use PC rules against people and enjoy the power that comes with that condemnation.



Would be interested for some sources on how Trudeau thought about PC culture previously and now

honestly, my biggest lingering point of interest in this affair
is whether Trudeau paid for his face paint out of pocket,
or managed to have the private school cover him dressing up as Aladdin as part of his Drama teaching budget

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