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Any electricians? Fixed that mother fucker!
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I'm having a minor issue and thought I might be able to get some help here.

I'll make it simple...

Moved into new house. Stove wasn't working so we bought a new one. I installed a new 3 prong cord.

Now, the breaker trips after a few minutes.

It's a single pole 50a breaker. The stove also plugs into another cord.





The stove should be a double pole, correct? And what the fuck is up with this other cord it plugs into?


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Edited by Wonder Boy (09/17/19 12:14 PM)

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Maybe your new stove uses more than 50amps. That or theres a short somewhere on that strange black cable you got there.

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Bad Breaker, Needs To Be Replaced.

Edit: Sorry Didn't Read The Post Right, The Stove Plug Should Not Be Coming Off Of Flex Like That, It Should Be Mounted To The Wall.

Also The Plug Itself Needs To Be Checked To Make Sure The Hot Wire(Black) & Neutral Wire(White) Aren't Crossed. If The Hot Touches The Ground Or The Neutral It Will Arc Out & Flip The Breaker.


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Edited by MpSeph (09/16/19 02:18 PM)

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: MpSeph]
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& Yes It Should Be A Double Pole.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: MpSeph]
    #26191948 -

Here's the panel..



They are all single pole. Shits fucked up..


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy] * 1
    #26191956 -

Que Lopho in 5.....4.....3....


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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You Should Call Your Landlord Or Local Electrician To Come & Troubleshoot It. Don't Try & Fix It Yourself, & Only Touch The Breakers, Dont Touch The Inside Of The Panel, Any Lugs Or Bars. (You Probably Already Know This But Just In Case).


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: MpSeph] * 1
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I do and I have a bit of background fucking with it. I'm still debating on calling an electrician or not.

I'm thinking about just adding a new outlet and run all new wire. From there I can tap into the panel and connect to the proper breaker.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy] * 1
    #26192513 -

50 amps is a lot. If you don't have a multimeter, i'd guess that the extention cord the stove is plugged into is fucked. Plus that doesn't meet code. Tell the land lord to fix it before it burns down the house.


A hot neutral would trip instantly.

And that panel looks ghetto as fuck.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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No landlord. It's my house. Just bought it.

I can check the voltage tomorrow. And the panel does look fucked up. :lol:

Ill check that plug tomorrow


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
    #26192531 -

Here's the wire terminal. 2 legs and a ground. I know that's wired right..



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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy] * 2
    #26192539 -

I am not an electrician, and my advice to you would be to call a professional.
This is the kind of thing that can cause house fires if you don't do everything right.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy] * 3
    #26192548 -

Oh, so double pole breaker takes 240, 2 lines of 120.

You have a single pole, so you are only getting 120. Half the voltage means double the amps, so it will keep tripping.


You need a new breaker panel and for it to be wired in, plus hard wiring the 240 outlet into the wall for the stove. I hope you didn't blow all your money on the stove. :devito:


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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WTF is Loph???


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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Ahab McBathsalts said:
Oh, so double pole breaker takes 240, 2 lines of 120.

You have a single pole, so you are only getting 120. Half the voltage means double the amps, so it will keep tripping.


You need a new breaker panel and for it to be wired in, plus hard wiring the 240 outlet into the wall for the stove. I hope you didn't blow all your money on the stove. :devito:


My thoughts too..

Would installing all new everything not work?

How much do you think something like that would cost?


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I had a major ghostly experience. Something shattered my oven glass and there's no logical explanation.

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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depends. Rewiring a house ain't cheap. If you only need to replace a panel and wire in the one outlet, maybe under $700.


If you only have 1 pole service coming from the utility for an old house it might be a couple of grand.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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Fuck it. We don't need a stove..


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Or go to the used furniture and building supply store, or auction sales or whatever and find an old ass electric stove that is only 120v single pole. That would probably be like $50, but take more time to find one.



How old is the house?


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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1984.

I still have the other stove.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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any electricians know what kind of bulbs this take?


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Ole Field Trashe] * 1
    #26192863 -

Ahab McBathsalts said:
Oh, so double pole breaker takes 240, 2 lines of 120.

You have a single pole, so you are only getting 120. Half the voltage means double the amps, so it will keep tripping.


You need a new breaker panel and for it to be wired in, plus hard wiring the 240 outlet into the wall for the stove. I hope you didn't blow all your money on the stove. :devito:



He has 240V there. Both 50A breakers should go to the oven and they should be tied together, but aren't. With GE panels it is possible to get both mini breakers on the same phase, but that doesn't look like the case here. You should have 240V between both hots on the breaker. Try turning them both off and then back on. Does the circuit trip with the stove unplugged?

If that isn't the main-panel then you need to seperate the grounds and neutrals.

Also make sure you have the neutral wire going to the neutral on the outlet and on the oven terminal. It looks right at the terminal, but the outlet could be wrong.

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Lophosaurus]
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No, But You Can Take It To Home Depot, Or Show An Employee A Picture Of It & They Should Be Able To Find It.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: MpSeph]
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Electricity is fucking magic. Almost makes me want to study it.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said:
Ahab McBathsalts said:
Oh, so double pole breaker takes 240, 2 lines of 120.

You have a single pole, so you are only getting 120. Half the voltage means double the amps, so it will keep tripping.


You need a new breaker panel and for it to be wired in, plus hard wiring the 240 outlet into the wall for the stove. I hope you didn't blow all your money on the stove. :devito:



He has 240V there. Both 50A breakers should go to the oven and they should be tied together, but aren't. With GE panels it is possible to get both mini breakers on the same phase, but that doesn't look like the case here. You should have 240V between both hots on the breaker. Try turning them both off and then back on. Does the circuit trip with the stove unplugged?

If that isn't the main-panel then you need to seperate the grounds and neutrals.

Also make sure you have the neutral wire going to the neutral on the outlet and on the oven terminal. It looks right at the terminal, but the outlet could be wrong.


I'll check and test everything today. Thanks


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Warning!!!
Mushrooms will birth baby slugs in your stomach if eaten.


I had a major ghostly experience. Something shattered my oven glass and there's no logical explanation.

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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What do y'all think about getting a double pole GE breaker, doing away with the 2 50s, and tying both poles in the double?


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I had a major ghostly experience. Something shattered my oven glass and there's no logical explanation.

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Ok..

I checked the receptacle and got 240 with both legs and 120 each when grounded out.

I also confirmed that both the 50 single poles are for the range.

Like some said, the 2 single poles should work, but they are not and only 1 leg is tripping the breaker.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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It only trips when I try and use the heating elements. If I plug in the stove and leave it be, it will stay on all day.

I also checked my voltage going into the board and plugs. Everything checks out...


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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IF it hold with the oven unplugged then the problem is most likely in the oven. Maybe one of the burner is shorting out?

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Lophosaurus] * 1
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I fixed it!

:rocketcrotch:

This morning I really got into it and noticed said breaker was in bad shape. Even though I checked the tightness yesterday, I wanted to double check.

I killed the power, removed the leg, and inspected the screw and port. The breaker had burn marks and the screw/ hole felt stripped. I pulled the whole breaker and sure enough.

I ran to home Depot, grabbed the breaker and just installed. No trips!

This would explain why only 1 leg was tripping

Thank you for everyone's help and insight. It's much appreciated.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy] * 1
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Awesome! gOOD jOB!

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Wonder Boy]
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YAY!!!

@ loph - there you are!


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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I would get a new breaker box.  That one looks very old and a fire hazard.  Wouldn't hurt if you have the money and increased the houses total amp supply.

Especially if you want a grow.


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
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Feels pretty good when you get shit fixed without hiring someone.

I feel like a man! Fuck you problems! I will straight fuck you in the mouth!

Next thing I tackle will be my ducts


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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
I would get a new breaker box.  That one looks very old and a fire hazard.  Wouldn't hurt if you have the money and increased the houses total amp supply.

Especially if you want a grow.



No, it's fine, unless the bus bar is burned out or some unseen damage. GE makes a decent panel. I charge about $5000 to upgrade a service and that it a really good price. I doubt he wants to do that until needed.

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Re: Any electricians? [Re: Lophosaurus]
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That is correct, sir.


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