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I am convinced that using lining is worth it...
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I use pond lining and the best advice I've read about is folding over the sides and taping one side to the tub wall, while leaving the other side of the fold flimsy so it can stick and give in to the substrate as things move along.  I felt I had to complicate things by using pond lining because trash bags seem like a lazy alternative.

What I don't like about not having a lining is not that the shrooms are lower quality or smaller (which isn't always true), it's that they seem to grow clumped together from the same 'pods' if you will.

Edited by SawCeeJack (09/15/19 07:07 PM)

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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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In the most basic terms possible, using a liner is wasting money. It does next to nothing, and wastes plastic that you had to buy at one point. I have done both ways, and i am currently using no liner whatsoever. My side pins are minimal to none.


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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Sure I cant convince you liners are not worth it? :deal:


Fyi liners dont cure side pins


AtmozFear said:
What I don't like about not having a lining is not that the shrooms are lower quality or smaller (which isn't always true)



What?
:wutermelon:


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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Surface conditions is the key,you don't need a liner but if ur not gonna be around all the time to monitor, a liner can help, i use garbage bags n just cut them once everything's in after spawn the 2 layers helps cuz the one layer sticks to the sub as it shrinks.
I prefer a liner cuz im not always around n it makes cleaning my tubs out a bit easier


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: mushboy]
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yeah those are good examples of not using a liner.

what do you mean "what?"

oh nm u edited.  I just hear people sometimes saying side pines are undesirable and I'm just saying that's not true.  Like I said, I just don't like the mushrooms clumping together.

and btw, you are a fucking expert!  I don't have those skills yet!


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Edited by SawCeeJack (09/15/19 01:35 PM)

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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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I ment what because what you said didnt make sense
can you clarify?

I got the impression you think using a liner will mean more robust fruits or something:shrug:


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Sure I cant convince you liners are not worth it? :deal:


Fyi liners dont cure side pins


AtmozFear said:
What I don't like about not having a lining is not that the shrooms are lower quality or smaller (which isn't always true)



What?
:wutermelon:


Good god damnit mushboy poppin in wit the str8 PROOF


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: mushboy]
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no mostly they are just a lot easier to pick away from the sides.  I have been picking and picking for 48 hours now!  I will thoroughly document my second flush from the 66qt coming up.  just finished second flush in a 12qt, just starting first flush from another 12qt


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Edited by SawCeeJack (09/15/19 01:39 PM)

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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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could you post a picture? no one is really understanding what your saying i think. Did your entire flush come out on the side??


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: jbgtaa]
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in the unlined 12qt I had a lot of side pins.  the other 12qt not so much.  sorry i have been busy prepping some more jars... I will take many pics like I said above^ when next flush starts... any advice anyone?


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Edited by SawCeeJack (09/15/19 01:43 PM)

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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: Marmie]
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Marmie said:
Surface conditions is the key,you don't need a liner but if ur not gonna be around all the time to monitor, a liner can help, i use garbage bags n just cut them once everything's in after spawn the 2 layers helps cuz the one layer sticks to the sub as it shrinks.
I prefer a liner cuz im not always around n it makes cleaning my tubs out a bit easier


definitely... that's a major perk not having to clean up as much!


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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I think hes saying he doesnt like when they grow in clusters , which is fucking bananas, thats the shit you do want, boooo on you jk lol, but seriously if thats the problem your fine clone a lone ranger if thats what your lookin for. Honestly i dont mind a few sidepins aslong as thats not all i get if i get nothing but sidepins i fucked up


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: Marmie]
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i'll take a big lone ranger any day over a few knuckleheads rolling with their whole crew like scared bitches!


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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U just gota get used to pickin em , grab twist n pull n they usualy come off pretty easy, some of my best producin clones came from clusters like the ones in my sig


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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The idea IS to grow in clusters... I like 1 big cluster that covers the entire surface:awesomenod:





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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: mushboy]
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6mil plastic sheeting. Pull the length of a standard trash bag, cut the long sides and there you have about 10 liners in three cuts.


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
The idea IS to grow in clusters... I like 1 big cluster that covers the entire surface:awesomenod:






:whathesaid: it’s actually easier to harvest if they grow in clusters:shrug: you can pull the cake out and cut whole clusters at once like this

The only reason I use liners is because it’s much easier to remove the cake to harvest:thumbup:


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Edited by SFS96 (09/15/19 02:12 PM)

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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SFS96]
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well then jesus christ, I'm doin somethin right cuz all I'm getting is clusters everywhere...

I can't believe you guys like those things, i like a big fat girl sitting all alone.


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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I like big fat girls that roll in groups.

Gimme all that lovin:awesomenod:


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: mushboy]
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:whathesaid:
mushboy gets it:crazy2:


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: ElViajero]
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i like liners just for picking up and moving the entire substrate cleanly. i can contain every part of it and dont have shit crumbs and what not falling everywhere when it is time to be disposed of


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: jcm4620]
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If ur getting shit crumbs in your tub u need to wipe better


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: Marmie]
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lol not in the tub its more on the floor


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
I like big fat girls that roll in groups.

Gimme all that lovin:awesomenod:


I actually like fat girls too.  My go-to porn is fat black girls.
I once had a fat gf but her pussy was sloppy and stinky.


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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Well this escalated quickly :elderno:


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: Marmie]
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I'm mixed, for some reason I seem to like liners. I've been using clear ones so I can see the sides just for fun.


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: primelines]
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lol well there went my dinner


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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AtmozFear said:
mushboy said:
I like big fat girls that roll in groups.

Gimme all that lovin:awesomenod:


I actually like fat girls too.  My go-to porn is fat black girls.
I once had a fat gf but her pussy was sloppy and stinky.



Well... tbh.. Mushrooms are masculine so I like a nice thick forest of dicks. I dont mind the smell:shrug:


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: mushboy]
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forest of dicks huh?? hell then u should come to my work cuz ul b real impressed


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: jcm4620]
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I HATE clusters.



also... do you see how blue those drying ones are on the left?  why are they so blue?  Are they being injured?  Are they losing potency? 
And they are on a rack that i just took out from the dehydrator for a min.  the dehydrator is set at 158 F


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Edited by SawCeeJack (09/15/19 05:00 PM)

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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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If they’re over moist anywhere you touch and hold them will start to bruise blue.  They aren’t losing potency.

Like of those on the square tray, I can tell you pulled up the bottom middle set of two at the base, that green/blue is bruising from where you touched it. I have left literal fingerprints on over wet fuzzy feet before. 

Suggestion, if you’re going to pull, make sure to push down, twist a good bit around and then pull, you won’t pull up so much substrate with them.

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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: StygianKnight]
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thank you so much, great to hear that they aren't losing potency, and great advice for picking them.  I am trying to get good at it.


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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Or just use a scissors and cut them off flush with the sub, its alot easier than trying to brush the coir off in the end, and keeps the dehydrator cleaner cuz you don't have coir all over the bottom.


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: MH5109]
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i started out the same way, but someone suggested you sacrifice a lot of weight by not keeping the bottom on, and i think he was right.  So now, I take each mush and shave off the coir into the trash can while still keeping most of the stump.

btw here is that whole tub:


all those little fucking side pin clusters

these are all Ecuador


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Edited by SawCeeJack (09/15/19 06:26 PM)

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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: SawCeeJack]
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Yea im big on saving time, the little bit that is left behind is reabsorbed by the mycelium and used to make mush the next round. If the sub is contaminated then i just pull them out and clip off the sub at the bottom of the stipe. And i really love clusters lol, they are the easiest to harvest, blade just start cutting them down like you're clearing the forest of mushrooms. This thing side pinned alot, but they only go two flushes, which i kinda like.


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: MH5109]
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I push twist and pull with ease thanks to a casing layer and then trim the bottoms for neatness.  I’ve saved these bottoms in the past with the idea of grinding them for tea but found I needed like 4 or so completely flushed monotubs to get a sizable amount, and after 4 big tubs go, the butts just look unimportant and take up space.

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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: StygianKnight]
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Yea, the last little bit thats left behind is far less than a gram, im cool with that. Agreed, after 3 or 4 sb's the 5 or 10g of stumps left over after are really unimportant to me.


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Re: I am convinced that using lining is worth it... what material do YOU use? [Re: StygianKnight]
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the "push" part seems key


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