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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26187171 - 09/14/19 12:26 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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no. you'd put it under the ring or whole lid.



Oh. Well then i dnt see why one wud use the whole round.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26187201 - 09/14/19 12:45 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

What is the consensus foil on jars for a pc run these days?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26187245 - 09/14/19 01:27 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Idk man my shitz all messsed up. Jst realized i changed my sab about the time all these problems started happening.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26187250 - 09/14/19 01:28 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I ran 100s if not more with no foil I dont even use it on pasty plates . No issues


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #26187474 - 09/14/19 06:45 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

for cutting the sfd into pieces, i use this


not that i'd have bought the set just for that. already had it. makes perfect little circles.

come to think of it, i remember developing a slick little process to mass produce the lids rapidly without any mess from the rtv goo. maybe i should write that up.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #26187641 - 09/14/19 08:46 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I use to tool leather at one point.
Yeah them are cool. If it will cut through leather it will cut through all kinda shit.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26187881 - 09/14/19 11:28 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Well, Hi again to everybody so i am going through my first ever grow, and have a shoebox with galindoi. From my little undestanding everything seems to be going just fine, i spawned to bulk and cased on 8 days ago and have now lots of mycelium poking through the casing...

My question is, when should i start introducing more FEA, now? or should i wait to see some pin formation?

Also, does this look like its going well for you? im thinking of using a bag with two smal holes poked when fruiting, would that be okay?



Thank you very much for your help, appreciate it a lot. And i am very excited i got this far!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
    #26187891 - 09/14/19 11:35 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

just put the lid on and leave it alone. Not wise to be changing the entire fruiting chamber by adding a bag just as it's taking hold, as well.

JUST LEAVE IT ALONE!!! theres nothing you can reasonably do to change the outcome in a positive direction, but theres a MILLION things you could do that WILL kill it. Just just dont change anything up and leave it alone. Maybe mist.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26187909 - 09/14/19 11:45 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you for asnwering! maybe i got some things wrong, i am a bit confused about the relationship between pinning, FAE and casing colonization. I will leave it doing its thing until i see some pins

In regards to the bag, eventually i will have to put one due to not having enough headspace for anything to grow really, i only have about 4 cm before reaching the lid. Maybe you got me wrong, i meant a transparent plastic bag that would give more space for mushrooms to grow, nothing weird.

Again, thank you!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26187925 - 09/14/19 11:49 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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there's nothing you can reasonably do to change the outcome in a positive direction




I get your sentiment there but can't agree entirely. Maintaining proper conditions can and must be done to ensure optimum results.

I'd say your coir is looking dry and she would like a nice misting. I'd mist her and then snap the lid back on. I'm not sure how much water you used but..... OH shit, just realized we are talking about galindoi. I digress. I don't know much about this type.

here is stonesun's grow log and here is every post a trusted cultivator has ever made about galindoi

I think you should mist it and throw the lid back on but i don't know galandoi too well

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26187940 - 09/14/19 11:55 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Because ive seen some janky lids that don't cover the edges of the filter. The filter isnt made to filter through it's edge


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26187980 - 09/14/19 12:11 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

sure. a small whole with a larger piece of sfd, secured all around the edges with rtv makes this a non issue though

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
    #26187983 - 09/14/19 12:12 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

'galindoi' you want it to be at or near 100%, then case it and increase it's air supply. if you're not in a tent, you can still do ok, just remember to keep the casing wet. if it dries out, the fruit will shrivel up like tiny little middle fingers. ideally, it should alternate between wet and less wet, but never dry.

forgive me for sounding like a pedant, but what you have there is not an effective casing because so much myc is poking thru it. the point to casing is to provide good conditions to the fruiting surface, which it can't do if it's beneath that surface. i suspect it also provides a ready supply of water for the fruit to take up. i suppose others have succeeded with a coir top layer. let's see if they chime in.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
    #26187997 - 09/14/19 12:17 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Well, Hi again to everybody so i am going through my first ever grow, and have a shoebox with galindoi. From my little undestanding everything seems to be going just fine, i spawned to bulk and cased on 8 days ago and have now lots of mycelium poking through the casing...

My question is, when should i start introducing more FEA, now? or should i wait to see some pin formation?

Also, does this look like its going well for you? im thinking of using a bag with two smal holes poked when fruiting, would that be okay?



Thank you very much for your help, appreciate it a lot. And i am very excited i got this far!




Hi

I am growing the same and have a thread on it if you are interested in joining?    Mycolorado in my opinion is the goto guy on this subject and he is vey willing to help......  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26156506/fpart/1/vc/1

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26188016 - 09/14/19 12:30 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

If you're casing is nice damp, more now is good

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26188020 - 09/14/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks to everybody!
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verum subsequentis said:

I get your sentiment there but can't agree entirely. Maintaining proper conditions can and must be done to ensure optimum results.

I'd say your coir is looking dry and she would like a nice misting. I'd mist her and then snap the lid back on. I'm not sure how much water you used but..... OH shit, just realized we are talking about galindoi. I digress. I don't know much about this type.

here is stonesun's grow log and here is every post a trusted cultivator has ever made about galindoi

I think you should mist it and throw the lid back on but i don't know galandoi too well




You are right verum i gave it a light mist as it was somewhat dry on top and snapped the lid back on. I checked many TC posts but they dont seem very explanatory or beginner friendly, so that leaves me a bit confused.

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'galindoi' you want it to be at or near 100%, then case it and increase it's air supply. if you're not in a tent, you can still do ok, just remember to keep the casing wet. if it dries out, the fruit will shrivel up like tiny little middle fingers. ideally, it should alternate between wet and less wet, but never dry.

forgive me for sounding like a pedant, but what you have there is not an effective casing because so much myc is poking thru it. the point to casing is to provide good conditions to the fruiting surface, which it can't do if it's beneath that surface. i suspect it also provides a ready supply of water for the fruit to take up. i suppose others have succeeded with a coir top layer. let's see if they chime in.




Yeah i didnt expect to have mycelium poking through so quickly to be honest. I cased right at spawn because i didnt want to risk contamination due to the jar colonizing rather slow (no contams showed up on agar). I know its not how its generally done but felt it was adequate... What now then?




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Hi

I am growing the same and have a thread on it if you are interested in joining?    Mycolorado in my opinion is the goto guy on this subject and he is vey willing to help......  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26156506/fpart/1/vc/1




Yeah mate for sure! i posted in the sclerotia producers thread but no one aswered, i will join you there as well! Hope to get some good help


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
    #26188047 - 09/14/19 12:51 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Yo has anyone seen this before? The sub isn't contaminated to im pretty sure its just dried out. It's just weird that its only the one corner?

Honestly i havent had a tub dry out during fruiting like that since my first grow so i kind of forgot it could happen lol i just thought it was weird how it stunted the fruits and made them go sideways/cracked caps



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26188058 - 09/14/19 12:55 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Your sub is too shallow in my opinion.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26188137 - 09/14/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Nah it's not too thin, but if it's dry it's dry.:smoker:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #26188144 - 09/14/19 01:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Nah it's not too thin, but if it's dry it's dry.:smoker:




I always found the water content in the atmosphere is less the thinner the substrate is.

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