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Invisibleboeha
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[Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ?
    #2617726 - 04/29/04 07:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Got a question for the more experienced shroomerites:

I have a fairly decent experience with psychoactive drugs, and I'm very interested in combinations of them.

The following combination:
Psychotria Viridis (contains DMT)
Banisteriopsis Caapi (MAOI)
mushrooms

I was wondering if this would create a good experience.
I'm guessing that both DMT and mushrooms would create some sort of intense introspective trip.

I know that this experience would probably be
- Long ( I'm guessing at least 10h )
- considerably nauseating; but I don't mind the vomiting
- intense (but this isn't so much of a problem; I never tripped bad so far; cause I always prepare myself to the maximum)

So my question:
- Is there anybody that's ever done it, and would you recommend it?
- would the shrooms be to waste because of the stronger ayahuasca effects, or is it a matter of balancing the amounts?

Thanks in advance  :cool:


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2617824 - 04/29/04 07:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Damn, I've never heard anyone propopse consumption of ayahuasca AND mushrooms.  Sounds mind-blowing.  You say you're prepared for a long, nauseating, and intense trip, well if you're fine with that than nothing is stopping you.  I want a trip report man!  I don't think the shrooms would be wasted, especially with the beta carbolines inhibiting your mao, everything'll be working.  Your going to have a lot going on in your head. 

Over at erowid there's a few trip reports of this combination, you should check em out.  Here's a choice quote from one of em :laugh:

"Very shortly afterwards, I was kneeling on my matt, when I felt the sensation of a wave coming up behind me. As it hit, it literally knocked me into a prone position. I opened my eyes to find that I now was holding a glowing entity in my arms, that eminated a feeling of divine love. The spirit and I froliced for a bit (close to an hour I imagine) in an amazing communion of spirits, that I can only relate to the best sex you ever could have, times ten."

Actually a really amazing report, this guy claims telepathy / remote shamanic healing.  check it out  here

I say go for it, and bring us something back from the other world :smile:


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: Noviseer]
    #2617843 - 04/29/04 07:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I've already read the reports on erowid :smile:
Done my research;)
but I'd like to discuss it with somebody here; because trip-reports on erowid can't answer all my questions.


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2617894 - 04/29/04 07:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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boeha said:
Quote:

Noviseer said:
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I've already read the reports on erowid :smile:
Done my research;)
but I'd like to discuss it with somebody here; because trip-reports on erowid can't answer all my questions.





VERY interesting, man.  I haven't done it myself, but once I give Aya a try by herself I would be willing to do this combo.  If you give it a go, please write a trip report!  :smile:


Good luck!

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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2618125 - 04/29/04 08:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i've taken some mushrooms with a little bit of Aya before(not a large dose... just out of curiosity and boredom)....... anyways ayahuasca is intense enough just by itself.... in my oppinion, adding mushrooms to it is just going overkill. besides DMT is better than 4-ho-dmt anyways.... do whatever you want, but you probably wont even notice the shrooms cause you'll be so incapacitated from the Aya


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2618139 - 04/29/04 08:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

wouldn't be a 10hr trip if you ate at the same time, even with rue (longer lasting maoi) aya only lasts maybe 2-3hrs can't remember exactly never timed it :tongue: but rue and shrooms dosn't last any longer than normal ime or maybe 30mins or so but not much. oral dmt reminds me a lot of a strong mushroom trip but compressed, quicker more visual and generally more intense but it fades pretty quick and leaves you in this wonderful introspective state of mind similar to shrooms but more clear headed and productive imo. sounds like a weird combo, i think smoked dmt while trippin on shrooms and a maoi would be much more intersting :stoned:


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: John]
    #2618241 - 04/29/04 09:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

[I don't do drugs.]


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: thepodman]
    #2619981 - 04/30/04 06:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

@ phenethyl : I don't have DMT that can be smoked :frown:

That is what I'm afraid of: that the ayahuasca will be to overwhelming.
Maybe I'll try ayahuasca without the mushrooms and write a trip report.

How about the following combo though ?
->
Banisteriopsis Caapi (MAOI)
mushrooms
Salvia (5X)

Breaking through on Salvia while tripping...
I haven't tried it so far, but the idea has been hangin' around in the back of my mind.


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2620229 - 04/30/04 08:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i think that the mckenna brothers did shrooms & vine & leaf together in their amazon adventures...
there may be a couple folks over at aya.com who have done it, but they try to discourage discussion of illegal activity... (a search of archived threads there would prolly yield some sorta trip report...)
there may even have been some old threads right here @ shroomery with a psilo/harmal/dmitri theme...


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2621272 - 04/30/04 02:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

here ya go... aya and salvia + other assorteds by mr.phenethyl :tongue: :whistling:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...ev=#Post2331606


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2621337 - 04/30/04 02:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

3.8g p. sub
1 glass of runny, golden ayahuasca (using rue & acacia obtusafolia)

im not going to egg you on.

i will say it was awesome, however. :wink:

(by the way, caapi is not just a maoi.)


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2621584 - 04/30/04 03:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I recall Terrence McKenna saying that this IS NOT a combo that you wan't to try...

mckenna did it once and said that he almost flipped his lid.


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2621590 - 04/30/04 03:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well boeha, come July we should swap stories. Me and my best friend are planning many journeys this summer, one of which should be what you're talking about. I'm not even sure what DMT is like alone, much less with mushrooms, but i want to try everything, so i'm sure it'll happen this summer. Have fun! :mushroom2:


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: Fungilicious]
    #2622254 - 04/30/04 05:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Fungilicious said:
I recall Terrence McKenna saying that this IS NOT a combo that you wan't to try...
mckenna did it once and said that he almost flipped his lid.




This is weird;
I went to ayahuasca.com ; and was able to find a few trip-reports through the search function.

One report told me that it was a very divine combination; intense, but never too far off.

I'm still in doubt though.

One thing I'll throw in the garbage is that Salvia-stuff. I already gave it the benefit of the doubt; but lets be honest; compared to other mind-altering drugs, it's pure, uncut rubbish :frown:
Other people convinced me here not to ruin a good natural trip with a freaky alienated Salvia-realm.

I'll probably do the ayahuasca+shrooms experience; but my gut-feeling tells me that I'll have to be very confident and persistent.
But hey, we all live once, and if shit goes wrong, I'll learn from it (the hard way :wink: )


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2624557 - 05/01/04 05:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

hah. salvia, uncut rubish. hah.

how have you tried it?


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: Doogle]
    #2624833 - 05/01/04 09:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Doogle said:
hah. salvia, uncut rubish. hah.

how have you tried it?




I said; compared to other drugs !

And yes , I've tried it 5 times; broke through 2 times, the other 3 times I felt terrible.
There's no fun in sweating like hell; having a headache, and don't get any good effects. :frown:


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Re: [Combo ?] Ayahuasca+mushrooms ? [Re: boeha]
    #2625748 - 05/01/04 01:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder what Terrence would say on this subject...probably not to combine them and to enjoy each in it's own right.


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