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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Near Dylan]
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:lolwut:  :shitbird:


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Citizen X]
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That is the typical response from Citizen X.

Anyone:  "Where did you come up with your information?"
Citizen X:  Ignores question and makes ad homimem attack.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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I looked it up and firefighters are not at all trained in building demolition. Let alone "years of training". Dont know where he got that and dont kno why he's so upset about it lol.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
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I get the impression he thinks that firefighters hear massive building rattling explosions all the time.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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I just wonder why people think that a fire induced structural failure collapse would look any different than a controlled demolition. Almost all of the work in bringing down the building is done by gravity.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: koods]
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I think most people's issue is that if it were all fire damage causing collapse, that was the cleanest, straight-down-into-its-own-footprint fire collapse ever recorded, to my knowledge. That coupled with engineers for 9/11 Truth calling bullshit constantly, things being essentially vaporized into dust, etc. I see why it keeps getting brought back up.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Loaded Shaman]
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How would a building fall any other way? The forces are straight down.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: koods]
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Others argue the free fall physics and pancaking are dead giveaways that it was controlled.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Loaded Shaman]
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But why? Falling due to structural failure would do exactly the same thing. Controlled demolition takes out a few key supports, and gravity does the rest.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Near Dylan]
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Near Dylan said:
I looked it up and firefighters are not at all trained in building demolition. Let alone "years of training". Dont know where he got that and dont kno why he's so upset about it lol.



Years of training in fighting fires. I mean if you’re going to go full retard expect people to treat you like like a retarded person

If you want to have a conversation and be an honest debater we can have an honest debate but if you’re gonna act stupid and be a shitbird troll, I’m going to call a shitbird troll. I’m not being mean

Think of it like this

If you act like a child you get treated like a child. You come here and act like a man I’ll treat like like a man

I don’t care either way is fine for me


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
waves said:
Make sure you watch this video, it really does do a good job of demonstrating how easily a steel structure would be compromised by heat.

The steel doesn't need to melt or even begin to melt to be totally fucked. It just needs to be hot

The other reason I doubt the alternative theories is the thousands of people involved in the investigation and clean up. Were all those people in on it? Something would've leaked by now




I said that back on like page two. I even went to semi-detail on how steel is compromised with heat, giving specific figures that are backed up sources.

Yet here are at page five.



That’s great as I said however long ago this is just part of the argument because this still doesn’t explain how all the columns failed close enough to cause a “pancake” style collapse 3x in on day. It’s ok though because nobody can explain it.

You guys minus shitbird 1&2 brought up some great arguments and I believe you 100% on how the steel failed. Makes perfect sense

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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Citizen X]
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To further explain the core’s are made of concrete, no? Maybe I’m wrong here


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Citizen X]
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I can get onboard that planes hit the WTC buildings and blew off enough of the fire proofing to melt steel and cause the A36 steel to weaken and fall. The fashion in which they fell will always blow my mind because it doesn’t seem natural.

As no plane hit building 7 there’s no natural explanation here as to why this fireproofing failed.

Edit: in before someone says but the steel in the concrete cores. That’s made with rebar not the same steel used in the construction


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
Near Dylan said:
I looked it up and firefighters are not at all trained in building demolition. Let alone "years of training". Dont know where he got that and dont kno why he's so upset about it lol.



Years of training in fighting fires.



That's our point.  How is that supposed to teach them what a building demolition sounds like?

Citizen X said:
I mean if you’re going to go full retard expect people to treat you like like a retarded person

If you want to have a conversation and be an honest debater we can have an honest debate but if you’re gonna act stupid and be a shitbird troll, I’m going to call a shitbird troll. I’m not being mean

Think of it like this

If you act like a child you get treated like a child. You come here and act like a man I’ll treat like like a man

I don’t care either way is fine for me



So no answer on how they are experienced at recognizing building demolition?  Just more ad hominem attacks instead?

Par for the course for you.  :shrug:


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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How bout this dude, huh? Lol. Seems like a nice, mentally stable chap


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Near Dylan]
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Nobody here is going to argue a firefighter is trained in demolition. I am saying that with years of training and experience would help them identify the difference between an explosion and something else

You two just bring the conversation down to a point where it’s childish. If the the conversation is too much for you and you have to be coddled to understand every other word or phrase, that just derails the conversation to the point where the people who really want to discuss this in a thoughtful way simply can’t.

You two have derailed the conversation so much here we are talking about nonsense.
Near Dylan said:
How bout this dude, huh? Lol. Seems like a nice, mentally stable chap



Are you going to talk about the towers?


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
I can get onboard that planes hit the WTC buildings and blew off enough of the fire proofing to melt steel and cause the A36 steel to weaken and fall. The fashion in which they fell will always blow my mind because it doesn’t seem natural.

As no plane hit building 7 there’s no natural explanation here as to why this fireproofing failed.

Edit: in before someone says but the steel in the concrete cores. That’s made with rebar not the same steel used in the construction



They're built to be fire resistant, not fireproof. And there is an explanation. The sprinklers failed because the water main was damaged from the other collapses.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Kizzle]
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Citizen X said:
I can get onboard that planes hit the WTC buildings and blew off enough of the fire proofing to melt steel and cause the A36 steel to weaken and fall. The fashion in which they fell will always blow my mind because it doesn’t seem natural.

As no plane hit building 7 there’s no natural explanation here as to why this fireproofing failed.

Edit: in before someone says but the steel in the concrete cores. That’s made with rebar not the same steel used in the construction



Ok. Great point

Do you have any comment for the concrete cores failing?


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
I can get onboard that planes hit the WTC buildings and blew off enough of the fire proofing to melt steel and cause the A36 steel to weaken and fall. The fashion in which they fell will always blow my mind because it doesn’t seem natural.

As no plane hit building 7 there’s no natural explanation here as to why this fireproofing failed.

Edit: in before someone says but the steel in the concrete cores. That’s made with rebar not the same steel used in the construction



Fireproofing is rated in hours. That rating is based on a time and temperature curve.

So, the fireproofing will fail when conditions are above or beyond that curve.


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Re: A four year university study on WTC contradicts government narrative [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
Nobody here is going to argue a firefighter is trained in demolition. I am saying that with years of training and experience would help them identify the difference between an explosion and something else



I think I got you.  Similarly, years of training as an auto mechanic should help someone diagnose medical conditions.


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