mushboy said:

someone awhile back did the same thing. now i kinda wanna try it

if you have a flowhood i cant imagine any reason to ever do this

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Those with stoves opt to make SpaghettiOs...

primelines said:

Ok I'll try it just gotta find it. Dont see it on amazon.
Gotta figure a good way to pour lc in and seal it good.

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CapSense said:

You should be able to find it in most supermarkets in the rice aisle.

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It can be in odd places too, like beside the jars of curry sauce, or in ready meal sections.

Searches will bring up previous peoples ideas. Similar things have been done and seem to not get popular, maybe due to price.

This thread is 14 years old and I was posting saying I had tried Uncle bens a few years before that, saying I was put off by price. No own brands did it where I live back then.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4170612#4170612

I did a grow with tesco brown rice a few months ago, trying to find simple methods for a friend. It is much cheaper than uncle ben, there is no added salt but there is veg oil. The veg oil makes it not stick together. I put 2 pouches in the microwave with pin holes and heat until steaming. I then have a filtered tub/container which was steamed with water inside it in a microwave too, inside a plastic bag with some water. The rice is then added to the tub and put in the bag and microwaved again on defrost. This is to drive off moisture and heat treat it again as it was done in open air. By weighing you can calculate the moisture loss, this allows you to add loads of LC, I shake it well. The huge amount of LC added meant it needed no further shaking, it all colonizes in place, think it was done in 10 days, then and I just add a casing layer on top. With regular rice it will usually be fused into on big block, this is why the oil is good.

There are several options on using the pouches. You can put a blob of silicone down as an injection port, inject your liquid and then put in a needle with a syringe filter on it, I have used syringe needles with unfiltered long silicone tubes instead too. I have cleaned a pouch with bleach and stuck on a filter patch with silicone and then put a dot of silicone in the middle of the patch. This means a needle can pass through the filter and into the pouch too, with the needle still passed through the filter you can poke lots of small holes in the pouch for better air exchange than just a single small hole. I have also heated the pouch with a filter like this in place with out bothering to use bleach, I then microwave the pouch on low so the filter gets steamed and I drive out moisture, again allowing for lots of LC. I guess the bags could also have the filters stuck on and steamed just to heat treat the filters and the bag underneath them.

These days you can get pouches of mixed rice with other grains. Hippie3 grew on hominy. Stephen L Peele used tinned corn, I have grown on tinned sweetcorn too.

Here are colonising tinned kidney beans and peas, nothing came of these.

Fun-G said:

Potency comes from genetics, the food source those genetics start on can play a role....others argue its strictly genetics but I highly doubt the rice was the culprit for weak mushrooms or no potency.

I had a similar experience while using popcorn as the spawn to coir/verm...they were wild so the next time I upped the nitrogen as suggested by RR using worm casings, although different genetics the mushrooms were significantly more potent then the previous culture...

You could try spawning to worm casings or coffee grounds for the high nitrogen content. That should aid in any kind of potency issues in furthering developing the fungal colony...nutrient boost never hurt anything, give it a try.

Super cool tek btw, if I was still living in a room I'd have 30 packets going already lol

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ThisIsMyShroomAcct said:EDIT: I found an old account of this being done in nearly identical fashion and the resulting shrooms had zero potency.

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Quote:

As a leader of the anti-masturbation movement, Kellogg promoted extreme measures to prevent masturbation. He circumcised himself at age 37. His methods for the "rehabilitation" of masturbators included measures up to the point of mutilation without anesthetic, on both sexes. He was an advocate of circumcising young boys to curb masturbation and applying carbolic acid to a young woman's clitoris. In his Plain Facts for Old and Young,[37] he wrote:

A remedy which is almost always successful in small boys is circumcision, especially when there is any degree of phimosis. The operation should be performed by a surgeon without administering an anesthetic, as the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind, especially if it be connected with the idea of punishment, as it may well be in some cases. The soreness which continues for several weeks interrupts the practice, and if it had not previously become too firmly fixed, it may be forgotten and not resumed.[51]

further

a method of treatment [to prevent masturbation] ... and we have employed it with entire satisfaction. It consists in the application of one or more silver sutures in such a way as to prevent erection. The prepuce, or foreskin, is drawn forward over the glans, and the needle to which the wire is attached is passed through from one side to the other. After drawing the wire through, the ends are twisted together, and cut off close. It is now impossible for an erection to occur, and the slight irritation thus produced acts as a most powerful means of overcoming the disposition to resort to the practice

and

In females, the author has found the application of pure carbolic acid (phenol) to the clitoris an excellent means of allaying the abnormal excitement.

He also recommended, to prevent children from this "solitary vice", bandaging or tying their hands, covering their genitals with patented cages and electrical shock.[37]

In his Ladies' Guide in Health and Disease, for nymphomania, he recommended

Cool sitz baths; the cool enema; a spare diet; the application of blisters and other irritants to the sensitive parts of the sexual organs, the removal of the clitoris and nymphae...

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san pedro guy said:

so far, so good...I think?

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MpSeph said:

A Hell Of Alot, Maybe Like 20 Bags, Considering People On Reddit Are Using 2 Bags For A 6qt Shoebox.

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Well dang, that might not be worth it

Maybe I will buy a few bags to just play with. Amazon has a 12 pack with a 20% off coupon right now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G9U46DW/ref=vp_c_AQ651BBSOVTNH?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Works out to $1.42 per bag. Tempted

san pedro guy said:

shit, I only nocced up one bag and was planning on spawning today. are there 3 quart shoe boxes?

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gizmo1 said:

san pedro guy said:

shit, I only nocced up one bag and was planning on spawning today. are there 3 quart shoe boxes?

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Try the Tupperware section lol.
I've seen tiny little totes. But you could also just fruit it like a cake or use aluminum tray. Or maybe even go ahead and spawn to a shoe box idk what that spawn ratio would be but I'm sure it would work.

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True! I don’t even know if the damn thing is 100% cuz I can only see the bottom lol.

But I do have some small container things I’ll post a pic later tonight...



as I was breaking this up some of the rice smooshed up, is this mean it’s susceptible to contam?!

McDominator said:

Works out to $1.42 per bag. Tempted

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MpSeph said:

P.S This Will Only Yield 1-3 Grams Dry

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that is pretty poor. A 250g pouch of UB rice where I am has 76g carbs in it. Going off their dry rice this equates to 105g of regular bagged rice (which includes its natural moisture content).

So if you were to get a BE of 200% you would get 210g fresh.

I have used silicone tube filters on the pouches, you can snip the corner of the pouch and fold over the silicone tube and slip it into the bag, when you release it expands out and makes a tight seal. I micowave to resterilize and also to drive off moisture allowing you to add a lot more LC. The needle can slip into the pouch between the silicone tube and the packet.

This is what the silicone filters look like, in this case in a glass jar.



more info here on them
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20783919

MpSeph said:

I Saw Alot Of Folks Saying "Uncle Bens Won't Fruit As A Cake, Because There Is No Vermiculite To Hold Water Content, Like In A BRF Cake."

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MpSeph said:

P.S This Will Only Yield 1-3 Grams Dry

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This is my current one, 204.6g fresh from 250g pouch rice with a coir casing on the first flush, MS to a minature PF cake, so a tiny bit more rice flour from that too. Will have to get dry weights.





EDIT- ended up 17.1g cracker dry

blackout said:

MpSeph said:

P.S This Will Only Yield 1-3 Grams Dry

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Here is my first flush. 1 packet into two containers setup in my hc.

Didn’t get wet weight but my guess is more than 3 grams dry