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A recent festival in Kiev proudly displayed Nazi symbols and even advertised ‘White Pride’ – yet received almost no attention from Western media, who still steadfastly pretend there are no Nazis in Ukraine, neo- or otherwise.

At the festival itself, a large screen installation flashed words such as “victory” and “honor” – in German – and the unmistakable phrase “White Power” in English.

It was organized by the Azov Regiment, a one-time “volunteer battalion” that became notorious during the civil war in Ukraine’s east, and is now part of the country’s National Guard.

Azov’s logo is the “Wolfsangel” rune used by the 2nd SS Panzer Division ‘Das Reich’ in WWII.

Their leader, Andriy Biletsky, once said that Ukraine’s purpose was to “lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade” against the “Semite-led Untermenschen.”

During the summer of 2014, they fought under the command of Andriy Parubiy, founder of the Social-National Party of Ukraine (whose logo was also the Wolfsangel) and co-founder with Biletsky of Patriot of Ukraine. Parubiy led the armed faction of Maidan protesters that had carried out a coup in Kiev in February 2014. He was rewarded for failure in the war by becoming the chair of the Ukrainian Rada for three years.

That might be a clue as to why the government in Kiev hasn’t done anything to curb these overt Nazi displays. The ultra-nationalists brought Petro Poroshenko to power in the first place, and he was not inclined to go against them. Indeed, he embraced their cult of Stepan Bandera, the WWII leader of Ukrainian nationalists.

Ukrainian courts have also sided with the radicals over the general public and even their own media.

When the Kiev-based Hromadske news outlet – itself a major player in the 2013 protests that led to the coup – referred to the ultra-nationalist group C14 as “neo-Nazis” last year, C14 sued for defamation and the court ruled in their favor. Hromadske had to pay a fine. Human Rights Watch complained, but the verdict stood.

Yet the very name of C14 is a direct reference to the “14 words” of US white nationalist David Lane, and the group celebrated Hitler’s birthday in 2018 by destroying a Roma camp in Kiev and chasing its terrified residents, including children, through the streets.

What did the government do? It gave C14 public funding to run “national-patriotic education projects” at youth summer camps. Moreover, this happened under Ukraine’s first-ever Jewish prime minister, Volodymyr Groysman.

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curious how the nazis look a lot like antifa, hmmm

maybe antifas are complicit with the nazi agenda and all their actions are intended to obfuscate the truth of their beliefs, brownshirts much?

killingravensun said:

curious how the nazis look a lot like antifa, hmmm

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Eminence said:

What kind of far left "revolutionary" group gets backed by corporations and ignored by the police when they attack people?

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Eminence said:

Attempting to hit people in the heads with hammers could easily lead to death

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During a meeting hosted by the American Foreign Policy Society inside the Senate, I seized the chance to ask Parubiy’s hosts why they were welcoming a figure who was so central to the extremism overtaking Ukrainian society. I also put the question to Michael Carpenter, a former Pentagon official who helped deepen the US relationship with post-coup Ukraine during the Obama administration.

The responses I received reflected a semi-official policy of denying the very existence of Ukraine’s far-right plague in order to turn the heat up on Moscow.

The Ukrainian lawmaker appeared on a panel alongside fellow speakers of Eastern European parliaments eager to join the US-NATO crusade against Russia in exchange for handsome aid packages. At the top of the agenda was stopping the Nord Stream 2 pipeline between Russia and Germany, a project viewed in Washington as an existential threat to US economic leverage over Europe.

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Eminence said:

I mean it's pretty obvious by now, it's not only right wing people that see all this.

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Kryptos said:

Eminence said:

Attempting to hit people in the heads with hammers could easily lead to death

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If only Andy the right wing liar would stop bringing hammers to rallies.

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I barely know about Andy, I only heard about him because of that moment. But I didn't see any footage of him with a hammer, all I saw was him walking away after being punched and having things thrown at him. I did see some dude with Antifa swinging hammers at people the other day trying to get on to a bus and then busting out the windows though.

Kryptos said:

Eminence said:

I mean it's pretty obvious by now, it's not only right wing people that see all this.

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No, it seems to be only right wing people that see all this.

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Keep telling yourself that if you want I guess, do you count Democrats that criticize their party right wing too? You one of those people that say people like Tim Pool is a fascist? There are plenty of democrats and liberals who don't like what Antifa does. I mean you haven't heard of that "#walkaway" thing with a couple hundred thousand followers with all the left wingers saying how nuts their party and Antifa are?

Eminence said:

Kryptos said:

Eminence said:

Attempting to hit people in the heads with hammers could easily lead to death

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If only Andy the right wing liar would stop bringing hammers to rallies.

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I barely know about Andy, I only heard about him because of that moment. But I didn't see any footage of him with a hammer, all I saw was him walking away after being punched and having things thrown at him. I did see some dude with Antifa swinging hammers at people the other day trying to get on to a bus and then busting out the windows though.

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christopera said:

I love how marginalized the right feels over Burger King continuing to sell milkshakes during Farage’s visit. The right should pass legislation banning milkshakes when conservative shitheads are in town, that would show the left what’s up.

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Kryptos said:

Hint: He's a well known liar and recently got fired from a right wing paper for editing footage so egregiously. Let that sink in. He got fired from a right wing outlet because his lies were too egregious for the RIGHT WING.

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christopera said:

They sold them before, they sold them during, they sold after.

Seems like they are the kind of company that sells milkshakes.

The only thing I took out of it was that it’s a classic crock of shit, one that’s full of made up things to whine about. Kryptos already called you out on it.

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killingravensun said:

Kryptos said:

Hint: He's a well known liar and recently got fired from a right wing paper for editing footage so egregiously. Let that sink in. He got fired from a right wing outlet because his lies were too egregious for the RIGHT WING.

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wrong. you are the liar, he wasnt fired and the video of him with agitators is unremarkable, after years of antifas threatening violence and the PP or whoever vowing to do the same this incident was banal at best, there was nothing to report and even if he had the portland police wouldnt have done anything, stop trying to hand out the kool aid, you look stupid

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christopera said:

Where did Burger King say, "they were advertising at that moment to have them thrown on conservatives"

Proof or get the fuck out.

Your entire point was the world hates the right and you feel bad about it. Google, Youtube, Burger King, is there anybody else you'd like to whine about?

As for Antifa, I couldn't give a shit, the harm they've done is so fucking minimal it's hardly worth discussing. Yet here we are again, another thread where a conservative is jacking off to Antifa's potential harm.

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christopera said:

Let's talk about white christian males and how they haven't landed on the terrorist watch list. They've been doing a wonderful job at murdering innocent people.

Or we stroke our cocks to some low level Antifa violence.

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koods said:

Meanwhile in Texas



Fuck off with this false equivalency

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christopera said:

Do they throw milkshakes in unison then? Should we do background checks before allowing milkshake purchases?

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koods said:

killingravensun said:

wrong. you are the liar, he wasnt fired and the video of him with agitators is unremarkable, after years of antifas threatening violence and the PP or whoever vowing to do the same this incident was banal at best, there was nothing to report and even if he had the portland police wouldnt have done anything, stop trying to hand out the kool aid, you look stupid

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Actually he got fired because he took part in an unprovoked attack on left wing activists.

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“FBI Phoenix assesses anarchist extremists (AEs) very likely are increasing the targeting of U.S. Government … law enforcement personnel and facilities along the Arizona border, increasing the risk of armed conflict,” the note said. “FBI Phoenix also assesses Arizona-based AEs likely are increasingly arming themselves and using lethal force to further their goals and in confrontations with ideologically opposed groups.”

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killingravensun said:

its pretty sad that lies are truth to some people, it must be frustrating when you cant get others to believe your lies, and there are so many good reasons to lie but some choose to lie about politics, thats just weakness, if you cant accept basic truths about something so obvious it must pollute your whole life, that kind of emotional instability can actually cause cancerous growths, look it up, being stressed out all the time is really bad for your health

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killingravensun said:

koods said:

killingravensun said:

wrong. you are the liar, he wasnt fired and the video of him with agitators is unremarkable, after years of antifas threatening violence and the PP or whoever vowing to do the same this incident was banal at best, there was nothing to report and even if he had the portland police wouldnt have done anything, stop trying to hand out the kool aid, you look stupid

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Actually he got fired because he took part in an unprovoked attack on left wing activists.

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i tried to click on the link you provided for proof but couldnt find it, maybe you are lying also?

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killingravensun said:

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“FBI Phoenix assesses anarchist extremists (AEs) very likely are increasing the targeting of U.S. Government … law enforcement personnel and facilities along the Arizona border, increasing the risk of armed conflict,” the note said. “FBI Phoenix also assesses Arizona-based AEs likely are increasingly arming themselves and using lethal force to further their goals and in confrontations with ideologically opposed groups.”

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good luck antifas, my money is on law enforcement

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Eminence said:

Are you retarded

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qman said:

koods said:

Meanwhile in Texas



Fuck off with this false equivalency

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I agree it's not equal, we're comparing mostly mentally ill individuals with no political or organizational affiliation with a centralized Antifa group.

This is why Antifa is potentially considered a terrorist group by Homeland Security.

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qman said:

christopera said:

Let's talk about white christian males and how they haven't landed on the terrorist watch list. They've been doing a wonderful job at murdering innocent people.

Or we stroke our cocks to some low level Antifa violence.

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As single individuals , I'm unaware of any white male Christian terrorist organization. 

If it existed, law enforcement would obviously arrest them if they broke any laws.

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Brian Jones said:

qman said:

koods said:

Meanwhile in Texas



Fuck off with this false equivalency

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I agree it's not equal, we're comparing mostly mentally ill individuals with no political or organizational affiliation with a centralized Antifa group.

This is why Antifa is potentially considered a terrorist group by Homeland Security.

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There is absolutely nothing centralized about Antifa. If there was the Donald would already have them in chains. It's not going to be that easy.

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Yeah, hundreds of their members just show up randomly every weekend dressed in black at US cities by pure chance.

Brian Jones said:

qman said:

christopera said:

Let's talk about white christian males and how they haven't landed on the terrorist watch list. They've been doing a wonderful job at murdering innocent people.

Or we stroke our cocks to some low level Antifa violence.

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As single individuals , I'm unaware of any white male Christian terrorist organization. 

If it existed, law enforcement would obviously arrest them if they broke any laws.

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Greensboro North Carolina. KKK vs Communist Party.  I think killing people is against the law. Five men charged with five murders and acquitted by an all white jury. Yeah for you.

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Eminence said:

If he's a liar, he's a liar. I don't read his work. I saw the videos. I don't need to read his work or any of the lies he might have spread because he's one guy. Are you saying there's a good enough reason for Antifa beating and doxxing everyone else they've done that to? Those 12> year old girls that were doxxed because they were obvious Christians? Was there a good reason for them giving out the addresses of an ICE agent and saying "we know where your kids sleep at night" and having them threatened all over twitter, which also protects Antifa? Please, Andy Ngo was just a popular story because he worked in media and happened to be a gay minority. Much more of this kinda stuff happens to people who don't have some kind of online following.

Anyone who supports Antifa is either confused, or an idiot that is easily convinced by simple wordplay. The kind of people that condone attacking police in America and Europe, but call people terrorists when they fight against the communist Chinese police.

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relic said:

Eminence said:

Are you retarded

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Weak, dude.

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Eminence said:

relic said:

Eminence said:

Are you retarded

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Weak, dude.

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That's offensive to people with atrophy

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christopera said:

Where did Burger King say, "they were advertising at that moment to have them thrown on conservatives"

Proof or get the fuck out.

Your entire point was the world hates the right and you feel bad about it. Google, Youtube, Burger King, is there anybody else you'd like to whine about?

As for Antifa, I couldn't give a shit, the harm they've done is so fucking minimal it's hardly worth discussing. Yet here we are again, another thread where a conservative is jacking off to Antifa's potential harm.

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Eminence said:

Whatever, I clearly wasn't saying what he was implying I was. Twisting words is even weaker.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Eminence said:

What kind of far left "revolutionary" group gets backed by corporations and ignored by the police when they attack people?

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Could you provide a link showing which corporations are backing antifa?

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