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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: DnDRnD]
#26177842 - 09/09/19 02:19 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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The trouble isn't growing the mycelium the trouble is with fruiting them indoors in a controlled environment
You got that backwards. Fruiting is easy and never sterile or even sanitary.
Growing the clean myc is the hard part.
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: DnDRnD]
#26177850 - 09/09/19 02:21 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let me explain my confusion, People kept saying that jars With dry verm layers should have their foils taken off and that the layer is the protection against contams, and that you should remove the foil after inoculation. Me being a grower that first learned back in the day that you needed very little GE during colonization, and that you should keep the lid on until it is fully colonized was confused by this, but decided to Accept it.
== THE LIDS ==
Jars on (without holes) With the lids screwed on, goes in the PC Everthing i make jar-wise is pc for 60-90 minutes. Jars cool off. Goes into the still air Chamber With the syringe Inoculation
Make holes in lids/Foil goes where?
Thats what I usually did Now I instead
Lids/Foil off (?) after inoculuation because I use a dry verm layer, and that protects based on what Ive read here. But I dont fully trust it, so I unscrew the jars so they are just loosely on the glass. All jars have verm layer, and foil With holes or lid With holes.
Edited by meaculpaUIO (09/09/19 02:37 PM)
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: mushboy]
#26177920 - 09/09/19 03:09 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
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DnDRnD said:
The trouble isn't growing the mycelium the trouble is with fruiting them indoors in a controlled environment
You got that backwards. Fruiting is easy and never sterile or even sanitary.
Growing the clean myc is the hard part.
Not for liberty caps, for liberty caps generating clean spawn is the easier part compared to fruiting them (indoors of course) or else we would see more people growing them inside
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: DnDRnD]
#26177938 - 09/09/19 03:21 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Large fruits are produced from what looks like small blobs of mycelium so if the mycelium surives the transfer it should fruit again outside, right?
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26177946 - 09/09/19 03:26 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Depends, the best bet would be to get some clean agar going then transfer that to grains probably and try and start an outdoor bed, then if you wanna try fruiting indoors save some of the spawn for trying out indoor stuff
Then you have plates of mycelium ready to go for indoor attempts PLUS having a potentially kick ass outdoor patch right in your yard
First things first though, id recommend getting some onto agar first before anything else so you can clean up those wild cultures
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: DnDRnD]
#26177955 - 09/09/19 03:35 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have agar powder now that I received today, but I dont have any petri dishes to mix them into. I will pick some up and have them by 24th of september. The idea further is then to mix some agar With sterilie water and then add some mycelium to them from whatever source? Let them grow in room temperature and then transfer off those to New dishes that will be even cleaner. And then I just keep doing that, and somehow succeed With transfering from them to sterile substrate in jars of WBS and vermiculite that I will make.
Once you go agar you are safe for good and will always have materials to keep shrooming. I will learn it
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26177967 - 09/09/19 03:43 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Told you guys we would jinx it. Trich here too. Now no good jars and empty spore syringe. Will be posting the jars transfered from the trich cube cake.



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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26177969 - 09/09/19 03:44 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Read the link in my signature titled "pastywhytes no pour agar tek" it'll teach you everything about agar
But basically you do this
1. Spores/mushroom tissue goes on agar
2. You transfer a tiny piece of mycelium onto a new agar dish
3. Repeat step 2 until your culture is clean
4. Put wedge of colonized agar into grains/LC/slants etc
You actually dont even need petri dishes, you can use extra jars or PP5 plastic containers as well (called "no-pours" or "pastyplates")
Your agar and nutrients (pda,mea,dfa,etc) get mixed into water and then poured into your jars and sterilized (for no pours) or poured into a big container and then sterilized and then poured into petri dishes (for pouring petri dishes)
You can also steam sterilize no pour agar in 1/4 pint jars for 90 minutes so you dont even need a PC
No such thing as jinxing when it comes to sterile procedure
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26177973 - 09/09/19 03:46 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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u guys r wasting your time. you can tell him hes wrong til your blue in the face. he will not listen just count how many times he has completely ignored every bit of good info he has been givin.
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: jcm4620]
#26177976 - 09/09/19 03:47 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im gonna grow shrommers dont u worry
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: jcm4620]
#26177977 - 09/09/19 03:48 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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jcm4620 said: u guys r wasting your time. you can tell him hes wrong til your blue in the face. he will not listen just count how many times he has completely ignored every bit of good info he has been givin.
I don't think OP is ignoring it, I think it's just over their heads still so theyre looking to be more "spoon fed" so to speak
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: DnDRnD]
#26177991 - 09/09/19 03:58 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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idk brother i just know things have gotten very bad lately on this forum. all the shit im seeing asked and done that has no point in being asked or done. if they would just take a lil time and search and study an actual tek and follow it for their first grow they wouldnt even need to ask or do needless shit. im glad to see ppl into it but they r trying to get to the moon before even being able to walk arond the block. gtta take it slow one lil fuck up will cost u big in this hobby
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: jcm4620]
#26178018 - 09/09/19 04:13 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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jcm4620 said: idk brother i just know things have gotten very bad lately on this forum. all the shit im seeing asked and done that has no point in being asked or done. if they would just take a lil time and search and study an actual tek and follow it for their first grow they wouldnt even need to ask or do needless shit. im glad to see ppl into it but they r trying to get to the moon before even being able to walk arond the block. gtta take it slow one lil fuck up will cost u big in this hobby
Anytime we get alot of new members we always get flooded with the same questions, just have to use the same patience we use when we're waiting on our grows and such.
I like to think its a bunch of the big TC's creating fake profiles to see what members help others and look for new TC's (totally just kidding )
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: DnDRnD]
#26178041 - 09/09/19 04:21 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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DnDRnD said:
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mushboy said:
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DnDRnD said:
The trouble isn't growing the mycelium the trouble is with fruiting them indoors in a controlled environment
You got that backwards. Fruiting is easy and never sterile or even sanitary.
Growing the clean myc is the hard part.
Not for liberty caps,
Ah yes. You are correct. And OP is doomed
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: DnDRnD]
#26178047 - 09/09/19 04:23 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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DnDRnD said:
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jcm4620 said: idk brother i just know things have gotten very bad lately on this forum. all the shit im seeing asked and done that has no point in being asked or done. if they would just take a lil time and search and study an actual tek and follow it for their first grow they wouldnt even need to ask or do needless shit. im glad to see ppl into it but they r trying to get to the moon before even being able to walk arond the block. gtta take it slow one lil fuck up will cost u big in this hobby
Anytime we get alot of new members we always get flooded with the same questions, just have to use the same patience we use when we're waiting on our grows and such.
I like to think its a bunch of the big TC's creating fake profiles to see what members help others and look for new TC's (totally just kidding )
If you are going to get that paranoid, you might as well imagine a TC With a sense of humour making a persona who is incompetent and predictable to the sum parody of all noobery.
If you are going to think that further and accept the above theory With the premise that People are being helped, it is a positive observance by said actor, meaning you could then say that any help I receive is a testament to the forum's englightenment and the observation of what happens to foolish beginners, because being intolerant of where others are in their Journey on the path to knowledge and mastery, is noteworthy of being short on the Journey yourself. It doesnt matter that it has happened before, that is the nature of eternal Things.
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26178053 - 09/09/19 04:27 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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also i tried to mix mashed potato mix With agar powder With boiling water, and it didnt work. For some reason some weird Brown Things materialized
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26178057 - 09/09/19 04:29 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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either way its just frustrating is all. sometimes when u tell someone to follow the tek or to search it they get all upset and wnna cry and think ur bein a dick when u really are only trying to help them the same way everyone else helped me when i started and i thank them for it now cuz i learned from it
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: jcm4620]
#26178074 - 09/09/19 04:39 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lmao it was a joke I don't really believe that.
How much instant potatoes did you use? When I use it not all of it dissolves
Hell you can make BRF agar to
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: DnDRnD]
#26178102 - 09/09/19 04:57 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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It was the agar that turned into chunks, looked like Brown leaves I still put the rest in a plastic dish in the refridgerator to see if it would turn jelly-like
The edges of the agar plate has jelly like tisusue but the middle and most of it is liquid
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Re: super wacky semi projectt in my slums log [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26178103 - 09/09/19 04:59 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hhhmmm that doesnt sound right, what brand of agar is it/post a pic of the package of agar.
I wonder if it had added sugar in it that caramelized while it was cooking, check the ingredients list on the back
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