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    #2615761 - 04/29/04 12:37 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: freakygurl]
    #2617020 - 04/29/04 05:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I am shocked most people think drugs should only be legal for adults. Imagine if this were the case - drugs would be far more available to children than even they are now, so it wouldn't change useage by minors - but it would ensure more kids were put away for drug 'crimes' - how can this be a good thing??? The only just way to prevent people using drugs that they are not ready for or unable to cope with is education!


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2617161 - 04/29/04 05:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Im going to assume you do not have children. What if your 9 year old could walk into a 7/11 and buy a gram of coke and a few pills of xtc?

Heck caffine is bad enough for the youngins.


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    #2617225 - 04/29/04 05:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: freakygurl]
    #2617253 - 04/29/04 05:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well underage drinking penalties are quite stiff in most areas but regaurdless 18 should be made the offical age to be a consenting adult and then it would work out fine. Drugs are powerfulls that need respect. Many young adults are lacing this.


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: d33p]
    #2617280 - 04/29/04 05:57 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Did you even read my post? Drugs are a social problem not a criminal one. Anyone who thinks children should face legal penalties for doing drugs needs their head examining.


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: d33p]
    #2617294 - 04/29/04 05:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

So a 15-year old who smokes cannabis or takes ecstasy illegaly should be arrested?


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2617308 - 04/29/04 06:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The person who gives/sells it to them damn well should.


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2617310 - 04/29/04 06:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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The person who gives/sells it to them damn well should.


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    #2617352 - 04/29/04 06:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: freakygurl]
    #2617397 - 04/29/04 06:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Some action would need to be taken. If parents are letting their kids smoke crack then the parents deserve to go to jail.


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: freakygurl]
    #2617402 - 04/29/04 06:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I believe the state has no business determining if someone is or isn't capable of possesing or taking drugs. That should only be down to the person themselves. If they are too young to make that decision, it should be down to their parents. The high school people of whom you speak surely have more of a right to make that decision for themselves than you or anyone else.


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2617418 - 04/29/04 06:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Some action would need to be taken.




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If parents are letting their kids smoke crack then the parents deserve to go to jail.





Is that going to make their kids more or less likely to continue smoking crack?


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2617451 - 04/29/04 06:28 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Nowhere in my reply did i suggest that minors should be sent to jail for possesion. I was saying minors should not be able to purchase drugs themselves. I believe it should be entirely up to the parents untill the child is 18 at which point it is their busnisuss.

Also what ages are you talking about. Obviously at some point there should be a limit. Even if allowed by parents a 9 year old doing coke should insititute a call to child services.


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    #2617473 - 04/29/04 06:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Is that going to make their kids more or less likely to continue smoking crack?




I dont think you understand how powerful drugs are. A child's mind is growing and can be damaged easily from drugs; damage an adult would not recieve with a fully developed brain.

Should it be a 10 year olds decesion to drive, own a gun?


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2617488 - 04/29/04 06:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The children would have to be put in a foster home or some other institution where they would not be allowed to smoke crack.


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: d33p]
    #2617490 - 04/29/04 06:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I said 'did you even read my post'? Where have I said it is a good thing for children to take drugs? Just because I don't think sending people to prison is liekly to help matters, doesn't mean I think drug use by children is a good thing.


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: freakygurl]
    #2617497 - 04/29/04 06:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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If parents are letting their kids smoke crack then the parents deserve to go to jail.





Is that going to make their kids more or less likely to continue smoking crack?




Who knows? But it would make parents less likely to let their kids smoke crack.




There are ways of making parents less likely to let their kids smoke crack that do not also make their kids more likely to smoke crack.


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Re: Ideal drug laws? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2617515 - 04/29/04 06:39 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know what it's like in the USA, but in this country, kids raised in institutions are far more likely to use drugs, both while there, and as adults. This could be linked to the high levels of child abuse associated with such institutions.


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