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Stones! Experimenting with sclerotia cultures for best results, * 1
    #26156506 - 08/28/19 07:21 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

This thread is to gather info so I can make a concise journal account of my experience with sclerotia making species.

I would like to G2G some more stone jars,  The ones im thinking of have small stone formations already.  What is your experience with this and how late can you go, what is optimum timings ect?

Im trying to fill up all those old household jars I used to use when I first started before I went Kilner.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26156531 - 08/28/19 07:54 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

No problems G2G jars with stone formations. As for optimal timing, I would say before the stones get too big and clog the mouth of your jar when trying to pour into receivers. If the stones get too big, they’ll make it clumsier to pour.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #26156680 - 08/28/19 10:16 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Are you doing this to grow more stones?  If so, I’d recommend spawning to a tub and keeping it moist...tubs crank out stones and you’ll get fruit as well.  Also, it helps to clone a stone to get a culture that is more stone prolific. 

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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26156816 - 08/28/19 12:01 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Are you doing this to grow more stones?  If so, I’d recommend spawning to a tub and keeping it moist...tubs crank out stones and you’ll get fruit as well.  Also, it helps to clone a stone to get a culture that is more stone prolific. 

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Cool, what kind tub?  Do you go mono?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26156825 - 08/28/19 12:05 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I’d spawn a mono with coir. Stones grow like crazy after spawning


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26156838 - 08/28/19 12:10 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Any kind, really...they just tend to produce better in bulk sub, which is what I should have said. 


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: SFS96]
    #26156841 - 08/28/19 12:13 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Perhaps I will spawn my pints with stones as well then.:takingnotes::popcorn: OP keep us updated on your progress. If one were to spawn a monotub, how full would be practical to fill it with coir? Bigger sub, bigger stones?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Quirkmeister92]
    #26156853 - 08/28/19 12:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Perhaps I will spawn my pints with stones as well then.:takingnotes::popcorn: OP keep us updated on your progress. If one were to spawn a monotub, how full would be practical to fill it with coir? Bigger sub, bigger stones?




So you can fruit until they run out of steam or contaminate and the harvest the stones.  Thats amazing.

What kind of ratios do people feel is optimum?  I might do them in kinda shoe boxes in monos to up my chances of cleaner flushes.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26156869 - 08/28/19 12:32 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I think most people are finding this when spawning for fruit, so anywhere from 1:1 to 1:3 spawn:sub ratios.  I don’t know that anyone has actually tested the ratios so might make for a cool project for those so inclined.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26157039 - 08/28/19 02:12 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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I think most people are finding this when spawning for fruit, so anywhere from 1:1 to 1:3 spawn:sub ratios.  I don’t know that anyone has actually tested the ratios so might make for a cool project for those so inclined.




Have you seen data regarding what harvests people are getting per quart jars verses quarts per mono tub?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26157051 - 08/28/19 02:15 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Nope.  Just based on personal experience as well as what’s been posted, subs seem to be much more productive than spawn.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26157057 - 08/28/19 02:18 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Nope.  Just based on personal experience as well as what’s been posted, subs seem to be much more productive than spawn.




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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26157067 - 08/28/19 02:25 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

A variety, but the size of tub is irrelevant as long as you can provide optimal conditions.  I would say it’s the ratio that should be looked at.  I usually run 1:1 but that’s why I said it would be good to run some comparisons to see which ratio works best.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26157082 - 08/28/19 02:32 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I would add that stones in sub tend to form toward the surface, so a larger surface area with less depth would likely be beneficial....so, in contrast to my above statement, size of tub could play an important role as well.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26157190 - 08/28/19 03:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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I would add that stones in sub tend to form toward the surface, so a larger surface area with less depth would likely be beneficial....so, in contrast to my above statement, size of tub could play an important role as well.



Ahh ok! 

A Shallower sub will be easier to monitor.  Im going to expand 1 jar to 8 more and try to make a couple of tubs with that.  I will play about with ratios then.  I use nice sized shoe boxes that will be the bases of a 1:1 v 1:2, v 1:3.  That will leave me 2 jars to expand.

So this is one of my jars that has raced ahead.  What do you reccon I should do with this........



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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26157218 - 08/28/19 03:56 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Whatever you decide to do with it, I’d recommend cloning the big stone.  Just snap in half and excise some inner tissue.  :thumbup:


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26157319 - 08/28/19 04:57 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Just to offer my opinion about spawning to a tub or a leaving in the jar. I personally would rather eat stones surrounded by grain than stones pulled out of coir or similar. You can also remove stones from the grain and spawn the remaining grain to tubs accomplishing the same thing without including the stones you already grew. When I did stones the yield per jar was more than enough for my needs without feeling the need to slightly increase it by mixing with a dirty sub. Just my opinion.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #26158282 - 08/29/19 02:32 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Just to offer my opinion about spawning to a tub or a leaving in the jar. I personally would rather eat stones surrounded by grain than stones pulled out of coir or similar. You can also remove stones from the grain and spawn the remaining grain to tubs accomplishing the same thing without including the stones you already grew. When I did stones the yield per jar was more than enough for my needs without feeling the need to slightly increase it by mixing with a dirty sub. Just my opinion.




I only use coir as a substrate which isnt really that dirty.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26166969 - 09/03/19 04:06 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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Whatever you decide to do with it, I’d recommend cloning the big stone.  Just snap in half and excise some inner tissue.  :thumbup:




Ive spawned it to a 1:2 ratio stones and all.

One question, can you just put the substrate str8 into fruiting conditions like with cubensis when colonising?  Whats do you do, fruit once then harvest stones and all?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26166979 - 09/03/19 04:12 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

I let them colonize and then case and fruit.  Harvest flushes until it contaminates or stops producing fruit and then harvest stones.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26167038 - 09/03/19 04:39 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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I let them colonize and then case and fruit.  Harvest flushes until it contaminates or stops producing fruit and then harvest stones.




So stones already in there are fine as long as the sub in intact


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26167043 - 09/03/19 04:43 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26167167 - 09/03/19 05:38 PM (1 year, 26 days ago)

Nice.... Great information on a bulk stone Technique . I have some jars that are moving real slow . They are not contaminated. I am curious that the polyfill may be too tight on my jars. I broke up 2 jars  recently and the grains did not seem to dry. They were in my opinion perfect as far as using the grains to spawn with. Are the grains(to grow stones) better to be on the Dry/Wet side ? Polyfill ? Temp to low LOL I am not looking for a definative answer . I am looking for your opinions . Thanks  |
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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26167996 - 09/04/19 02:52 AM (1 year, 25 days ago)

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How shallow is shallow.  Ive gone 2 inches.

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Nice.... Great information on a bulk stone Technique . I have some jars that are moving real slow . They are not contaminated. I am curious that the polyfill may be too tight on my jars. I broke up 2 jars  recently and the grains did not seem to dry. They were in my opinion perfect as far as using the grains to spawn with. Are the grains(to grow stones) better to be on the Dry/Wet side ? Polyfill ? Temp to low LOL I am not looking for a definative answer . I am looking for your opinions . Thanks  |
I am a noob to stones.But not the various mycology practices of growing.I am more of a reader on the page and do not comment much. Thanks




Stones can take up to a month or 2 to form.  It looks like spawning to a shallow substrate is the best way to get more stones.  I am hoping to run side by side tubes with spawn from the same G2G expansion to see which ratio spawn to sub gets me a better return.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26168389 - 09/04/19 11:02 AM (1 year, 25 days ago)

2 inches is good.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26168415 - 09/04/19 11:14 AM (1 year, 25 days ago)

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2 inches is good.



  Also we discussed the fact that bacterial jars stoned earlier than clean jars? 

I also remember us chatting about colonising in the dark.  Where are we with this atm?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26168454 - 09/04/19 11:47 AM (1 year, 25 days ago)

Stones are a survival strategy so bacteria contams could very well be a trigger for their formation.  My guess is the restricted light idea is based on the fact that stones are subterranean.


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    #26168485 - 09/04/19 12:10 PM (1 year, 25 days ago)

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Stones are a survival strategy so bacteria contams could very well be a trigger for their formation.  My guess is the restricted light idea is based on the fact that stones are subterranean.




So when spawning you might not get that clean mushroom smell and something a little sweeter


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26168502 - 09/04/19 12:19 PM (1 year, 25 days ago)

Stone producers smell like melon/cucumber.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26168908 - 09/04/19 04:28 PM (1 year, 25 days ago)

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Stone producers smell like melon/cucumber.



That's what I thought! Thanks for the confirmation!:takingnotes:


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    #26168995 - 09/04/19 05:30 PM (1 year, 25 days ago)

Expanded to 8 more quarts with 2 small stones in the spawn.  Hoping its good enough to ratio test....


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26175191 - 09/08/19 03:52 AM (1 year, 21 days ago)

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I let them colonize and then case and fruit.  Harvest flushes until it contaminates or stops producing fruit and then harvest stones.




100% colonise and then can you case with coir as peat it hard to find here and I find compost have too many microbes in them and I have never been able to make it happen.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26175614 - 09/08/19 11:28 AM (1 year, 21 days ago)

Coir will work fine.  I use a seed starter which is a blend of coir and peat.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26175648 - 09/08/19 11:51 AM (1 year, 21 days ago)

No....it’s coir.  They’re just calling it peat.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26175697 - 09/08/19 12:39 PM (1 year, 21 days ago)

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I let them colonize and then case and fruit.  Harvest flushes until it contaminates or stops producing fruit and then harvest stones.




What kind of yields do you get out of these strains fruit wise? Everyone posts their stone weights but how many dried grams of mushrooms do you average per qt of spawn? Obviously it will vary a lot depending on genetics but I'm just looking for a ballpark figure, like how 1oz/qt with cubes seems to be standard.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: SimpleCultivator]
    #26175710 - 09/08/19 12:50 PM (1 year, 21 days ago)

Never checked.


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    #26175726 - 09/08/19 01:02 PM (1 year, 21 days ago)

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They are strong mushrooms compared to cubensis though?


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    #26175845 - 09/08/19 02:18 PM (1 year, 21 days ago)

Some say so.  I never found them to be crazy strong....I’d say on par.


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    #26179795 - 09/10/19 04:03 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

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Some say so.  I never found them to be crazy strong....I’d say on par.




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    #26179918 - 09/10/19 05:03 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

Nah...I always case once it’s colonized.


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Some say so.  I never found them to be crazy strong....I’d say on par.




Do you consolidate at all when colonising?  Its nearly there.






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    #26186157 - 09/13/19 04:54 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

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Nah...I always case once it’s colonized.




Do you case and colonise again till the casing is 30-40% colonised?


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    #26186165 - 09/13/19 04:57 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

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Case it and put it back in colonising conditions or case and fruit......


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26186218 - 09/13/19 05:33 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

Gotcha, I don't really recognize a difference in conditions besides the casing itself. The only thing I change at any point is lids secured vs flipped and either way is fine with a proper casing.


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    #26186232 - 09/13/19 05:38 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

Have you grown sclerotia successfully without colonising and fruiting conditions?  Just putting them st8n into fruiting conditions I mean?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26186249 - 09/13/19 05:47 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

Like are you asking if you can just case at spawning?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Quirkmeister92]
    #26186255 - 09/13/19 05:50 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

Yes and no


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    #26186260 - 09/13/19 05:53 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

Ive colonised and cased now but want to know what Myc does.  I know there are lots of ways to do shitz but this guy knows his onions


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    #26186269 - 09/13/19 05:56 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

I’ve gone both ways but prefer to let it work its way into the casing.  I like to add sand to the casings as tamps/stone producers seem to produce a better pin set in my tests with it in the mix.  See:

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    #26186291 - 09/13/19 06:07 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

Interesting. So I cased kind of thick 50/50 coir/verm.


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    #26186299 - 09/13/19 06:11 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

You’ll get much better fruit if you up the FAE from the time they start fruiting.


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    #26186303 - 09/13/19 06:13 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

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Interesting. So I cased kind of thick 50/50 coir/verm.




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Cause they’re tampanensis.


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    #26186321 - 09/13/19 06:22 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

More FAE, so lids flipped all day. Makes sense cause that's what the casings for. I see. I didn't flip mine initially.

They're just a lil pint in a SB. First run at em and I almost thought they were no good before I cased em as I misunderstood the difference in colonization appearance.

OP your stones you posted were huge in comparison to the ones pocketed throughout my pints. I was just blundering my way through this alongside. Got 4 SB on track with yours.
08/20 lil guys on oats

I made fresh Tamp Tea today for Fri 13th. My first Tamps and first Tea. Boiled em for 15min in .5L then strained with a coffee filter. Add a bit of this Korean honey lemon tea jelly stuff and stir. Nice n easy. Got heavy at 20min deep. Real melty at the peak. Over in 3hr.


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I’ve gone both ways but prefer to let it work its way into the casing.  I like to add sand to the casings as tamps/stone producers seem to produce a better pin set in my tests with it in the mix.  See:

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More FAE, so lids flipped all day. Makes sense cause that's what the casings for. I see. I didn't flip mine initially.

They're just a lil pint in a SB. First run at em and I almost thought they were no good before I cased em as I misunderstood the difference in colonization appearance.

OP your stones you posted were huge in comparison to the ones pocketed throughout my pints. I was just blundering my way through this alongside. Got 4 SB on track with yours.
08/20 lil guys on oats

I made fresh Tamp Tea today for Fri 13th. My first Tamps and first Tea. Boiled em for 15min in .5L then strained with a coffee filter. Add a bit of this Korean honey lemon tea jelly stuff and stir. Nice n easy. Got heavy at 20min deep. Real melty at the peak. Over in 3hr.





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    #26186346 - 09/13/19 06:36 PM (1 year, 16 days ago)

LSD-lite was my only real comparison to make. Tea just put it into a different experience compared to my experiences with cubes. It's like the perfect aperitif; it's pleasing and of substance, but leaves you hungry for more. I can understand the notion to re-dose. I made my tea with 25g fresh.


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    #26205669 - 09/24/19 01:32 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

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I’ve gone both ways but prefer to let it work its way into the casing.  I like to add sand to the casings as tamps/stone producers seem to produce a better pin set in my tests with it in the mix.  See:

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So I added a coir 'casing' but that just got fully colonised.  Its been in the fc for a week and hasnt pinned yet.  Is there a case for (late) casing if I can find some jiffy mix in the UK?


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    #26205670 - 09/24/19 01:36 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Why do you use garden lime as opposed to builders lime?


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    #26205928 - 09/24/19 08:55 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

It’s all I had.  I use crushed oyster shells now.  Neither are fast acting so it’s prolly not even very effective.  Try some sand in the casing.  What are your conditions?


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    #26205978 - 09/24/19 09:39 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

I just scored a 50lb bag of dolominte lime for like $12


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It’s all I had.  I use crushed oyster shells now.  Neither are fast acting so it’s prolly not even very effective.  Try some sand in the casing.  What are your conditions?




Its sat in a mono with cubensis shoes either side.  Its a decent room temp and im about to start misting twice a day.  Humidity looks decent but it could prolly do with more FAE.  I have 10 other jars colonising atm so I can experiment a little later on.  This is just to get a feel.


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    #26206253 - 09/24/19 12:44 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Some cultures can be stubborn/poor fruiters.  Stone producers tend to fruit on potato based agar IME which is helpful in culture selection.  You might make some pda to see if you can select for fruiting cultures.  Can you post up some pics of what it’s looking like?


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Some cultures can be stubborn/poor fruiters.  Stone producers tend to fruit on potato based agar IME which is helpful in culture selection.  You might make some pda to see if you can select for fruiting cultures.  Can you post up some pics of what it’s looking like?






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    #26206559 - 09/24/19 03:14 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Looks ok.  They really like FAE...a different fruiting approach that provides more air might help.


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    #26206698 - 09/24/19 04:13 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

I have a pinning feeling if you know what I mean?


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    #26206710 - 09/24/19 04:18 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

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    #26231715 - 10/05/19 03:51 PM (11 months, 18 days ago)

In the end it went bad.  Ididnt get and fruits but got some of these 



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    #26231725 - 10/05/19 03:58 PM (11 months, 18 days ago)

It happens. Was that more than you added with the spawn?


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It happens. Was that more than you added with the spawn?




Yeah quite a bit more




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    #26231769 - 10/05/19 04:23 PM (11 months, 18 days ago)

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    #26232914 - 10/06/19 06:25 AM (11 months, 17 days ago)

Ive dried these now.  What do you know about potency of dried truffles?


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Not much...


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Ive dried these now.  What do you know about potency of dried truffles?



I've read that truffle potency is best fresh.

You'd think it wouldn't matter...I never really noticed a difference when I grew stones.  :shrug:


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Ive dried these now.  What do you know about potency of dried truffles?



I've read that truffle potency is best fresh.

You'd think it wouldn't matter...I never really noticed a difference when I grew stones.  :shrug:




The last project funked ut but I have round 2 and round 3 going.  Round 2 was a clean looking, cucumbery smelling culture that I spawned to coir.

Round 3 was a spectacular looking culture on agar im hoping for good things with.

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    #26309368 - 11/09/19 03:44 PM (10 months, 14 days ago)

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    #26317709 - 11/13/19 01:59 PM (10 months, 10 days ago)

Just added a top layer(I wont call it casing as its coir and verm) after 100%colonisation.  Now waiting till that is 50-70% colonised and then will fruit in my mono. 

I have a 110 litre tub thats massive which I might just try as a fruiting chamber to give it more fresh air.


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    #26317823 - 11/13/19 03:01 PM (10 months, 10 days ago)

Sounds like a good way to go, I think I will follow suit.


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    #26328941 - 11/18/19 04:01 PM (10 months, 5 days ago)

Ive got the comedy Stone producing mono going.  Ive only added 2 top holes atm. I will spin the lid when there is pin life for the first tub.

Spawn ratio for ATL#7 A sample 1:1

Whats going through my brain is do I mist it, add lower holes, perhaps a room fan leave the lid off now and again.





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    #26350446 - 11/28/19 01:24 PM (9 months, 26 days ago)

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Ive got the comedy Stone producing mono going.  Ive only added 2 top holes atm. I will spin the lid when there is pin life for the first tub.

Spawn ratio for ATL#7 A sample 1:1

Whats going through my brain is do I mist it, add lower holes, perhaps a room fan leave the lid off now and again.








Ive been misting lightly but im not sure these like that now.

Im thinking this mono really is too big.  Im after  more air in the game but without holes at the bottom it will just bathe in its on co2.

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    #26358363 - 12/03/19 06:33 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

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I’ve gone both ways but prefer to let it work its way into the casing.  I like to add sand to the casings as tamps/stone producers seem to produce a better pin set in my tests with it in the mix.  See:

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Ive just bought some desert sand to try this tek know

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    #26365322 - 12/06/19 05:29 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

So Finally go the bits to do a sand casing

97.34% colonised(already cased with coir which its feed on already)



Ingredients for casing



Mixed together 50:50 about 4 cups here.  1 gram of lime per cup. Mixed into an amount of water under what I think FC will be.



Substrate cased 1/4 inch thick







Place back in my oversizes tub.  Still not sure what im doing with this.



Made a LC tonight to get ready for 10 bags of stones to be stored for when I travel.......

Should I store them in the dark is the question?


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I don't put my stone spawn in the dark


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    #26365435 - 12/06/19 06:35 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

These stones are from one mono tub nearly a pound and a half worth.



Also got quite a few fruits from it they were galindoi atl#7 or whatever they are now. But the tub kept fruiting for about 2 months probably yielded close to 2 oz in the end. Used 3 qt of spawn. They are not the best for fruits better for stones ime.



Stones definitely grow bigger and faster in bulk from what I've seen and it's nothing to give them a quick bath and clean them off.



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These stones are from one mono tub nearly a pound and a half worth.



Also got quite a few fruits from it they were galindoi atl#7 or whatever they are now. But the tub kept fruiting for about 2 months probably yielded close to 2 oz in the end. Used 3 qt of spawn. They are not the best for fruits better for stones ime.



Stones definitely grow bigger and faster in bulk from what I've seen and it's nothing to give them a quick bath and clean them off.






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    #26366784 - 12/07/19 01:59 PM (9 months, 17 days ago)

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I don't put my stone spawn in the dark




I do. In all my stone jars the first place that they form is the bottom and then the sides would start. Once I started putting them in the closet they started to form more uniformly across the jar. Shrug hands up emoji


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I don't put my stone spawn in the dark




I do. In all my stone jars the first place that they form is the bottom and then the sides would start. Once I started putting them in the closet they started to form more uniformly across the jar. Shrug hands up emoji




Yeah it wasnt just a what if question.  Many experienced sclet growers swear by dark being a benificial step......  Im just putting it out there.  The science behind the theory would be an enjoyable read too....


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26366890 - 12/07/19 02:53 PM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Do stones = truffles?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26366957 - 12/07/19 03:12 PM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Yes. Technically sclerotia


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Dabadoodledoo710]
    #26367136 - 12/07/19 04:50 PM (9 months, 17 days ago)

This is such a great instructive post.
I learned so much from this, thank you!

I have just spawn Galindoli grains to coir substrate 1:1 after separating the stones from the spawn, a 3/4 full one quart spawn jar yielded 44 grams of stones after 5 weeks...
They are very small truffles, the biggest being 3/4 inch but I feel so satisfied!

This has been my 1st grow and I can't wait to harvest the Psilocybe Galingoli fruits!





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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Fonzino]
    #26367983 - 12/08/19 12:21 AM (9 months, 16 days ago)

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This is such a great instructive post.
I learned so much from this, thank you!

I have just spawn Galindoli grains to coir substrate 1:1 after separating the stones from the spawn, a 3/4 full one quart spawn jar yielded 44 grams of stones after 5 weeks...
They are very small truffles, the biggest being 3/4 inch but I feel so satisfied!

This has been my 1st grow and I can't wait to harvest the Psilocybe Galingoli fruits!







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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26370218 - 12/09/19 07:16 AM (9 months, 15 days ago)

So I cased all shoe boxes, left 2 in colonising conditions and 1 in fruiting conditions to see if there is any difference like with cubes.


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    #26374202 - 12/11/19 01:35 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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    #26374390 - 12/11/19 06:03 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Hey mang, I've been working with tamps and galindoi since the summer I have about 25 jars going atm. I haven't frooted any yet but I've been spawning the jars once I've harvested them to coir.

I usually get 1-2x the weight of what was in the jar from the tubs so I'd say it's worth harvesting from the jar and then spawning.



I'm going to try and froot these though. Only thing is idk if they will as I've been selecting myc for stones and cloning stones too:shrug:


I've 3 bags going atm (this is straw & coir) it's about a month and a half now and there's some big looking Bois poking at the sides so I'm hoping by Christmas I'll have a decent wee harvest.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Bumholio]
    #26374542 - 12/11/19 09:59 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Hey mang, I've been working with tamps and galindoi since the summer I have about 25 jars going atm. I haven't frooted any yet but I've been spawning the jars once I've harvested them to coir.

I usually get 1-2x the weight of what was in the jar from the tubs so I'd say it's worth harvesting from the jar and then spawning.



I'm going to try and froot these though. Only thing is idk if they will as I've been selecting myc for stones and cloning stones too:shrug:


I've 3 bags going atm (this is straw & coir) it's about a month and a half now and there's some big looking Bois poking at the sides so I'm hoping by Christmas I'll have a decent wee harvest.





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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26374715 - 12/11/19 11:49 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Straw and coir? Yes, just the same way you do for cubes. Pour boiling water over and leave it to cool. I might have soaked the straw separately from the coir though I cant actually remember, but either way it's not sterile.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Bumholio]
    #26374856 - 12/11/19 01:16 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Straw and coir? Yes, just the same way you do for cubes. Pour boiling water over and leave it to cool. I might have soaked the straw separately from the coir though I cant actually remember, but either way it's not sterile.




I pasteurize loads of straw for oyster mushrooms but if it produces lots of stones it would be a cheap easy thing to do in old paint tins and buckets as these things apparently grow better in the dark.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26375063 - 12/11/19 03:17 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Idk if they'd grow off straight straw. I put it in because the first tub I did I put some straw in and it looked like it encouraged the stones to grow around it.
You know the way a pearl grows around a grain of sand lol. Idk if that's actually the case but I'll see what this bag is like when I open it. I might do it this weekend actually as I'm not able to the following 2 weekends.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26383478 - 12/15/19 04:57 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

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So Finally go the bits to do a sand casing

97.34% colonised(already cased with coir which its feed on already)



Ingredients for casing



Mixed together 50:50 about 4 cups here.  1 gram of lime per cup. Mixed into an amount of water under what I think FC will be.



Substrate cased 1/4 inch thick







Place back in my oversizes tub.  Still not sure what im doing with this.



Made a LC tonight to get ready for 10 bags of stones to be stored for when I travel.......

Should I store them in the dark is the question?




Update the shoeboxes are looking good and showing signs of stones plus surface is colonised enough to fruit.  Ive left two in the comedy mono tub and one in my standard mono tubs to compare notes.



LC is showing signs of life

2 bags of grains, 1 rye and one millet are almost colonised and still unsure whether to put in the dark or not.  Best plan is to split them but unfortunately they are not the same grains so wouldn't give a true reading.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26386493 - 12/17/19 08:23 AM (9 months, 7 days ago)

As stones grow under the surface, do they push the surface up as I am getting boulders pushing up


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26386526 - 12/17/19 08:58 AM (9 months, 7 days ago)

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As stones grow under the surface, do they push the surface up as I am getting boulders pushing up



Yeah dude, one of mines is. It's never going to fruit there is zero colonization of the casing but a stone is pushing up through it:shrug:


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    #26386540 - 12/17/19 09:07 AM (9 months, 7 days ago)

Yeah they do, sometimes break through the surface as well. Normally after they’ve fruited ime. I’ve never had it between casing and getting fruits.

Edit: also in the tubs that didn’t fruit, there’s been many lol.


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    #26394899 - 12/22/19 04:10 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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Yeah they do, sometimes break through the surface as well. Normally after they’ve fruited ime. I’ve never had it between casing and getting fruits.

Edit: also in the tubs that didn’t fruit, there’s been many lol.




Im thinking the culture I have is a stones heavy culture.  How long would you leave a culture in bulk for b4 harvesting?  They love water so should i regularly mist even though its in a mono tub?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26394916 - 12/22/19 04:49 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

You can leave them for months if they don’t show signs of contams. I’ve had some fairly good size stones from tubs left for 2-3 months.



This was from a cloned stone culture that won’t fruit for shit but does make the odd large stone in the sub if left for a bit.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Unknown error]
    #26395355 - 12/22/19 12:28 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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You can leave them for months if they don’t show signs of contams. I’ve had some fairly good size stones from tubs left for 2-3 months.



This was from a cloned stone culture that won’t fruit for shit but does make the odd large stone in the sub if left for a bit.




Holy fuk thats beautiful

I have lumps all over my 3 subs but no fruits.

Once harvested how do you store them?

Ive heavily misted this morning as the sub is shrinking quick.  Im thinking of dunking 1 of the subs to see what it does.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26395680 - 12/22/19 04:07 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

That’s probably not a good sign as for getting fruits from them if they are pushing up stones first. I would be wanting to see the first signs of pins within 10 or so days of casing. I don’t even like to see too much myc coming through the casing before the first flush.  Sounds like they are kicking off on the stone production though.
I mostly dry mine and store them in jars for any I’m not going to use within a couple of weeks. They are literally like stones When dried though, so i grind them to powder in a coffee grinder and make tea.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Unknown error]
    #26398568 - 12/24/19 05:33 AM (9 months, 14 hours ago)

The stones are so fed up with fruits not fruiting theyve decided to fruit themselves lol.....



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    #26408675 - 12/31/19 03:28 AM (8 months, 24 days ago)

I cant see there being any chance of fruits with these tubs but what do you reccon I should do?  If thety are ok I will just leave them as their seems daily growth.  I dont really understand the way stones interact with the substrate and what's the course of action when they poke out like that?



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    #26413990 - 01/03/20 11:49 AM (8 months, 21 days ago)

The stones are fluffing over with new mycellium now and im not sure of my next move.



Im thinking harvest, remix sub-minus the casing and let it recolonise?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26414010 - 01/03/20 12:02 PM (8 months, 21 days ago)

I’ve never had them go fluffy with myc when they’ve still been in the sub, only after I’ve removed them. Maybe this is a sign that they have stopped getting larger, so could be time to harvest. I’ve never remixed the sub either or can recall seeing anyone else do it. But it must be worth a try, be interesting to see how it goes either way.


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Unknown error]
    #26420360 - 01/07/20 06:24 AM (8 months, 17 days ago)

So I pulled all the big stones from the surface and guess what....Found a pin !!!!!!!!!!  Im gunna grow my first Atlanta#7 shrooms.....!!!!!



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    #26420411 - 01/07/20 07:34 AM (8 months, 17 days ago)

nicely done!! those stones look very nice aswell, some big rocks right there


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: ElViajero]
    #26452204 - 01/25/20 06:35 PM (7 months, 30 days ago)

So its the final harvest



Mushroom count a massive 3, not onces.....mushrooms lol.

Im still learning here

Stones on the other hand im not so bad at.



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120.50


120.29


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    #26452612 - 01/25/20 11:11 PM (7 months, 29 days ago)

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    #26598526 - 04/13/20 07:23 PM (5 months, 13 days ago)

I'm a little late to the party, but thought I'd add my 2 cents. I originally joined the Shroomery 8 years ago, got distracted and disappeared for a while, and have been back for a few months now.

First off, a question: I thought sand and verm would be problematic in mexicana sub or casing, making the stones crunchy? One experiment I'd like to try is putting a thin casing in a colonized jar before breaking it up looking for stones? I just have a feeling that the colonized sub would be very strong, and the co2/rh could be easy to manage that way. All this should encourage fruiting?
I got a ms syringe of galindoi from Sporeworks in early March, and have really enjoyed watching it grow in rye, based on Violet's tek. I soaked/pasteurized the rye in fertilizer amended water, got it to fc, then let it stand at room temp a couple of days before sterilizing/noc, per that tek.
Is it possible that my original 4 jars, started on March 7 could be almost fully colonized? In the past few days there's been very active, obvious growth of stones day-to-day. Fae is only via a small polyfill vent.

I was surprised to read that some of the stones can be well over 4 ounces. If the stones don't like light, you can't prove it by my cultures! I started 2 additional jars of galindoi last week, and 3 more last night.
So, at what point should I dig into the jars to see what's growing? I'm going to try my jar casing experiment first to see what happens--it's low risk anyway.
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Re: Stones expansion [Re: RRedBBeard]
    #26599371 - 04/14/20 03:03 AM (5 months, 12 days ago)

I would take a couple of those jars, stones and all And spawn it to CVG. The amount you get in bulk It's a lot more than you get in jars. This way you can have an experiment Which gives you the best harvest for each method, plus have a chance for fruits


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    #26599481 - 04/14/20 05:17 AM (5 months, 12 days ago)

Again, my question: doesn't the addition of vermiculite (or sand) in either the sub or the casing mean that the stones will incorporate that into their structure? That could be less than pleasant....


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    #26599588 - 04/14/20 08:00 AM (5 months, 12 days ago)

I couldnt tell the difference and Im not sure because the sand is supposed to be non nutricious casing resembling its natural environment?  If you look back in this thread you can read about sand casing from mycolorado where he gets fruits by casing with sand.  If you dont want fruits just spawn to coir and verm or just coir if you like aswell just for Science :popcorn:


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    #26623776 - 04/24/20 03:51 AM (5 months, 2 days ago)

I found spawning jars tohorse poo gave me MONSTER stones i mean huge things that filled your hand. didnt get many shrooms tho but wow those stones keep on growing in poo and become massive. I yielded 600g from a smallish tub.


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    #26623936 - 04/24/20 06:45 AM (5 months, 2 days ago)

Niceone, I wanna try poo.  What ratios did you spawn too?


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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26624191 - 04/24/20 11:01 AM (5 months, 2 days ago)

General question here--I have jars of galindoi 7 weeks along. At what point should the stones be harvested, how do you tell if they've maxed out? They appear to be a little less attached to the glass and the sub is being pulled back as the stones grow. One jar shows a little myc piss.
If a stone is cracked while harvesting, will it heal, or should it be dried out and stored?
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    #26624519 - 04/24/20 01:27 PM (5 months, 2 days ago)

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General question here--I have jars of galindoi 7 weeks along. At what point should the stones be harvested, how do you tell if they've maxed out? They appear to be a little less attached to the glass and the sub is being pulled back as the stones grow. One jar shows a little myc piss.
If a stone is cracked while harvesting, will it heal, or should it be dried out and stored?
Thanks!




In a jar you have to guess a little but 2-3 months should be ok.  They will be fine for a few more months in there.  Once you harvest use the stone free spawn to try to get some mushrooms

Dont dry these,  just separate and freeze if you arnt going to eat them within a few of weeks in the fridge.  Bulk grows are still better and the stones look and taste the same from both jars and tubs


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    #26640381 - 05/01/20 04:38 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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General question here--I have jars of galindoi 7 weeks along. At what point should the stones be harvested, how do you tell if they've maxed out? They appear to be a little less attached to the glass and the sub is being pulled back as the stones grow. One jar shows a little myc piss.
If a stone is cracked while harvesting, will it heal, or should it be dried out and stored?
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Heya,

So I was finally able to grab some Ps. Mex Jalisco, which i've been wanting to get hands on for a while. I put some on a couple plates of Agar to see if I could get that ball rolling but am fairly inexperienced with Agar, with everything really.

I wanted to ask for any tips/advice for these strains and also if someone would be kind enough to take a look at this agar growth and see if it looks right for the variant.

Same day that i did the jalisco i also started some Fiji and some Transkei - I did the Transkei in rice bags which i've never tried before and it looks like they're already garbage, pretty sure there's no way the below (last pictured) is not contam.

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Give it a few more days and get better photos


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    #26700617 - 05/28/20 01:05 AM (3 months, 30 days ago)

Howdy -

Updated photos below, first time trying to grow something on Agar so i don't know if this looks right - to me it looks a bit off but again i don't know. This is the plate that didn't do great, this is the extent of it's growth. The other one has almost filled the plate. Does this actually look like healthy myc growth to you?







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Updated photos below, first time trying to grow something on Agar so i don't know if this looks right - to me it looks a bit off but again i don't know. This is the plate that didn't do great, this is the extent of it's growth. The other one has almost filled the plate. Does this actually look like healthy myc growth to you?











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Howdy -

Updated photos below, first time trying to grow something on Agar so i don't know if this looks right - to me it looks a bit off but again i don't know. This is the plate that didn't do great, this is the extent of it's growth. The other one has almost filled the plate. Does this actually look like healthy myc growth to you?











Yep that looks good




Ok awesome, quick update - this is the other stronger growth plate. I noticed it's making these little white nodes now. I initially thought they may be the start of primordia/pins or maybe even stones but again inexperienced and would rather get a more educated guess. Any idea on your end? Does this plate also look ok? I am thinking to transfer a sliver to a new plate soon as well.

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Re: Stones expansion [Re: Super_Fun_Guy]
    #26709146 - 05/31/20 03:26 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

they r stone forming.  clone one or 2 to new plates.


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    #26711224 - 06/01/20 12:53 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

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they r stone forming.  clone one or 2 to new plates.




Awesome thanks for the assist man, appreciate it!


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    #26724580 - 06/06/20 06:57 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

quick update, i did try to xfer some of those small stones; had a couple seemingly successful but the below is def contam right? it grew pretty quickly and does not look like mycellium. Annoying.. :/








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    #26725569 - 06/07/20 05:41 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

That looks like cobweb.  The centre bit looks ok?


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    #26726094 - 06/07/20 11:47 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

Damn, that's what i thought as well. Yea the center does still seem healthy though, is it worth trying to salvage anything from it?


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    #26726104 - 06/07/20 11:51 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

Year the whole poit of agar is to clean plates.  Just be very slow a steady when uoi tansfer to new plate. First sign of growth transfer again as quick as possible.


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    #26730635 - 06/09/20 08:54 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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    #26857371 - 08/01/20 04:40 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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    #26859073 - 08/02/20 04:39 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

That kind of sucks not getting many mushrooms from the tub. I've see many post of the same thing happening. This is why I'm having the idea of just spawning my grains to coir in a bag and stack them up in storage for a few months in the dark and hopefully come to have many bags of stones.


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    #26859971 - 08/03/20 04:11 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

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That kind of sucks not getting many mushrooms from the tub. I've see many post of the same thing happening. This is why I'm having the idea of just spawning my grains to coir in a bag and stack them up in storage for a few months in the dark and hopefully come to have many bags of stones.




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    #26931018 - 09/12/20 02:17 AM (16 days, 18 hours ago)

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So this will be interesting and I will expand to grains only, in the dark and in a jar at some point.  As you can see ive made the bags so that the sub is 2" thick as i have allays had good results with this. 1:1, 1:2, 1:3 spawn to coir.








First update

The 1:1 is forming a mega stone structure and looks very healthy





The 1:2 is similar with a proper stone forming already





The 1:3 has fully colonised and stones are forming.





It will be interesting to see which bag gives the most stones.  I should imagine 1:3 due to water content









2nd update, 1:1 and 1:3 contaminated so I had to harvest.  1:2 is forming some monster rocks.

1:1 had nothing but 1:3 had 139g which would of been allot more had it gone to maturity.

I deleted all my pictures so heres a picture of me chillin



The stones in the dark are still ok.  Im going 2 bags spawn 1 jar for g2g atm so have shit loads of spawn to fuck around with.  Once Smoothcat has a fruiting culture I can play that game...... lol, no pressure buddy...fuk im lazy sometimes.




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    #26931022 - 09/12/20 02:19 AM (16 days, 18 hours ago)

1:2 has now contaminated and its time to harvest


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    #26931025 - 09/12/20 02:22 AM (16 days, 18 hours ago)

Part 2 of the experiment but this time ratio 1:1, 2:2(I know), 2:3, and left in the dark








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    #26931027 - 09/12/20 02:25 AM (16 days, 18 hours ago)

The only slight comparison will be between the 1:2 and these 2.  They are both rocking out so im hoping to beat 280.

Ive added another 2 bags to the dark side 2:2 and 2:3


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    #26931053 - 09/12/20 02:43 AM (16 days, 17 hours ago)

Cleaning some culture to start this all again with clean spawn......


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    #26931371 - 09/12/20 10:26 AM (16 days, 10 hours ago)

Im following this thread as Im gonna drop stones producers to agar soon:bubbles:


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    #26931375 - 09/12/20 10:31 AM (16 days, 10 hours ago)

Those beasts look like yams.


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Those beasts look like yams.




The ones Forming in the bags that I have in the dark are even bigger. I'm looking forward to seeing what that produces


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