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Have they got meds for this paralytic hunchback, and calm him down? I mean, Bernie is really anger over just about anything. So what is Bernies new campaign slogan? GET OFF MY LAWN
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starfire_xes said: Have they got meds for this paralytic hunchback, and calm him down? I mean, Bernie is really anger over just about anything. So what is Bernies new campaign slogan? GET OFF MY LAWN 
If I can't afford my own lawn, do I get a percentage of Bernie's even if I don't work, have more kids than I can afford or feasibly care for, and spiral into more debt through terrible financial choices?
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If you do have a yard, they should tax you to death over your lawn. Regulate the lawn, by a federal department, with a yard czar and a couple thousand government employees over lawns.
Then congerss should make a 1000 page bill about lawns, with handouts to special interests.
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As a European looking from the side, I genuinely think Bernie is you last best chance to dismantle the corporate oligarchy that has tilted your country so far right, that many people equate social democracy to communism.
And yet they still wonder why their social safety net is virtually non-existent and why you can’t afford a medical emergency, which is completely unheard of here in europe. Kinda shameful position to be in as the supposed “best country in the world”, don't you think?
Imo a Bernie/Warren ticket would be a dream for the working class in america, democrat and republican alike. Honestly, the tired “commie” arguments or the caricatures of him giving everything for free or over-regulating are calculated and disingenuous talking points crafted specifically for those who only understand politics superficially. Sadly, its still effective to a degree.
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A Paralytic Hunchback with Pocahontas from the northeast eastern US--the class of the democratic party.
No one give a flying fuck about what a European socialist thinks. The democrat candidates should have snorkels up their ass so that can breathe with their heads up their asses.
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starfire_xes said: So what is Bernies new campaign slogan? GET OFF MY LAWN 
Do you have a video or something? I don't know what you're talking about here.
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MotherNaturesSon said: I genuinely think Bernie is you last best chance to dismantle the corporate oligarchy that has tilted your country so far right, that many people equate social democracy to communism.
He would be, if he had a fair chance to become a president and, once there, to do what he intends.
The oligarchy isn't going to let the democratic process vote them out of power.
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starfire_xes said: So what is Bernies new campaign slogan? GET OFF MY LAWN 
Do you have a video or something? I don't know what you're talking about here.
Seriously that could be the MAGA slogan
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: koods] 2
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Bernie wants to take your guns, fuck your daughter, shit on your door step, take your money, and even fly airplanes into skyscrapers.
Of course none of that is true, but if we want to continue this thread of scary stories, we are going to have to make up more stuff about his platform.
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I don't know what you're talking about here.
I think what he is trying to say is that Bernie is very old . Super fucking old . He will be 82 by the time he finishes his term if he wins next year . Fuck , poor guy . The job is too demanding for people his age . It’s too much for people over 65 in my opinion .
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Tulsi Gabbard is a great choice, but she doesn't have the popularity of Bernie Sanders.
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The funny thing is that the media could make Gabbard the #1 candidate in a heartbeat if they got behind her like they do the establishment candidates.
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I think it will be a long time before another woman has the popularity Hillary had . I like her too but she’s Hindu . I know people who think thats the same as Arab . I’ve explained the difference at work not to long ago . It would be tough for her even with the media’s help .
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Psilynut2]
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Warren had a total of 27,000 attendees at two rallies this week.
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starfire_xes said: So what is Bernies new campaign slogan? GET OFF MY LAWN 
Do you have a video or something? I don't know what you're talking about here.
He's just mentally jerking himself off...no real point to be made.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said: It would be tough for her (Tulsi) even with the media’s help .
No, it would be easy as hell. The establishment media now determines who we'll be voting for.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: koods]
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koods said: Warren had a total of 27,000 attendees at two rallies this week.

Lots of rich white people in seattle
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For someone on a magic mushroom thread you sure are an egotistical asshole completely molded by western bullshit developed over generations upon generations of corruption. Wake up, left or right don't care about you.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: mildhigh]
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They do.
But we are now totally different parties with different needs.
Balkanize!
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Lots of rich white people in seattle
Exactly, I can't vote for a candidate that exclusively attracts only rich white people and upholds the institutions that perpetrate white supremacy.
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You say sarcastically but it’s true. We’ve already elected that candidate in 2016 and it didn’t turn out to well for anyone other than wealthy whites.
Sanders is better than Warren on policy and has a diverse base. Win win.
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I like Warren, but I'm nervous about the amount of support she's getting from the mainstream media. Did she make a deal to talk the talk, but not walk the walk?
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NYT ran a story yesterday about how she’s quietly courting establishment figures. She won’t put Medicare For All on her website. She already broke her pledge to not take big donor money by using it to buy the DNC’s mail list. She’s significantly weaker than Bernie on practically every position , she doesn’t have the ground game he does, and she fares worse in a head to head with Trump than Bernie does. But liberals gonna liberal.
Luckily, Bernie is the 2nd choice of about half of Biden voters. As he drops, Bernie will absorb a good deal of his base. Same goes for a good portion (if not majority) of Gabbard and Yang voters, who both sit right around 3% currently. Warren has to win Iowa otherwise she’s done for. Bernie will win NH, Biden will take SC if he doesn’t have a stroke before then. But if he keeps falling in the polls the. Ernie is taking SC. After that is Nevada, which Bernie will likely win. The main thing holding Bernie back is the South, where Biden holds a commanding lead virtually everywhere south of Maryland. The thing is, Bernie has a 10+ point advantage with POC over Warren. The only way Warren is gonna pull this off is if she can somehow galvanize the black community in a scale that would make Obama blush, otherwise she needs Biden to keep Bernie’s numbers low. Either that or Warren would need to absorb the voters of virtually the rest of the field as other candidates drop out, but the numbers aren’t showing that to be the case right now. For all we hear about Bernie stagnating in the polls (he’s actually gradually rising since the debates), it’s actually Warren who seems to have plateaued over the past month or so. Biden down a few, Bernie up a few, but even with a similar candidate like Kamala Harris plummeting in the polls, Warren doesn’t seem to pick up those voters.
All that being said we’re still 6 months out from the first primary, anything could happen. But it is interesting to see how things seem to be trending. Like the fact that Yang is beating Mayor Pete right now
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He is a curmudgeon. AND I HAVE a point: When pacing a crowd, you should first by calming them, and develop good rapport. Watch how Obama paces the crowd, and calm them at first. Then he builds it up and makes his suggestions. He always starts with a story, just like a Erickson Milton is pacing and inducts someone into a trance.
Obama was the best at this. Warren is trying that, but she is not even close to Obama's skill.
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In establishment memes and cartoons he is.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: mildhigh]
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mildhigh said: For someone on a magic mushroom thread you sure are an egotistical asshole completely molded by western bullshit developed over generations upon generations of corruption. Wake up, left or right don't care about you.
Lol new user thinking he's got some revolutionary shit going on.
Sit down and take another hit and chill.
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starfire_xes said: he is a curmudgeon.
In establishment memes and cartoons he is.
He might not remember because of the stroke but starfire was a huge Ted Cruz fan during the 2016 primaries.
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I liked Ted Cruz, but he just wasn't there yet.
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Yeah the fact that he grovels to the guy who called his wife ugly and his dad a murderer shows real promise.
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Bernie Sanders would bring America to where it desperately needs to go. Just saying.
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No one give a flying fuck about what a European socialist thinks. The democrat candidates should have snorkels up their ass so that can breathe with their heads up their asses.
There’s no need to be like that. I agree to be honest, Bernie all the way! I saw a Hospital Bill for a woman who was raped and just for things we take for granted like Paracetamol etc it was something stupid like $250. The US has got to the point now that most countries laugh at how stupid y’all are with your Wotsit for a president 😂
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Patlal said: Bernie Sanders would bring America to where it desperately needs to go. Just saying.
That may be true but he’s way too nice to Guatemalans for me to ever vote for him.
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Patlal said: Bernie Sanders would bring America to where it desperately needs to go. Just saying.
That may be true but he’s way too nice to Guatemalans for me to ever vote for him.
Who gives a fuck about guatamala
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The Ecstatic said: Luckily, Bernie is the 2nd choice of about half of Biden voters. As he drops, Bernie will absorb a good deal of his base. Same goes for a good portion (if not majority) of Gabbard and Yang voters, who both sit right around 3% currently.
Tulsi may be at 3%, but the DNC doesn't recognize polls where she's doing well, and so they won't let her in the next debate.
She got more than enough donors to qualify, but the DNC says she didn't meet their 2% threshold.
Here's a take you won't see on the mainstream news (except Tucker Carlson):
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Uh oh. This poll puts Tulsi within Kamela's margin of error:
‘Top-Tier’ Harris Leads Gabbard by Less Than Margin of Error
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Sen. Kamala Harris (D., Calif.) called herself a "top-tier" candidate in July while mocking Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D., Hawaii) for her low polling, but in a new survey Harris leads Gabbard by less than the margin of error.
Harris received just 5 percent support from likely Democratic primary voters in a new Economist/YouGov poll, down 4 points from the same survey last month. Gabbard was right behind Harris with 3 percent support, meaning Harris's advantage is within the poll's margin of error of 2.6 percent.
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No one give a flying fuck about what a European socialist thinks.
Canadians too, real talk
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Do you have a video or something? I don't know what you're talking about here.
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That should get edited for size and submitted here. Submit New Smileys Here!
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"Bernie Pushes Russiagate But Establishment Still Hates Him"
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: qman]
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Bernie was always a compromise candidate.
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I really wish he wouldn't go down a few of the roads he's been hitting lately. I think he's getting some poor advice on how to score more political points, but I believe it's highly counterproductive.
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Yeah, but who else are you gonna pick on the democrat side?
Biden? Terrible. Warren? Worse. All the candidates suck. Bernie probably sucks the least.
I mean, I'd vote for biden if I had to, but he's a really boring shitty traditional candidate. And in general I am opposed people close to a former president (family members, vice presidents, etc.) running for president. I don't believe in political dynasties or political families in America, whether it's the kennedys or trump or anyone else. The entire point of the system we have in America is to prevent stuff like that from happening.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: nooneman]
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Biden? Terrible. Warren? Worse. All the candidates suck. Bernie probably sucks the least.
I mean, I'd vote for biden if I had to, but he's a really boring shitty traditional candidate. And in general I am opposed people close to a former president (family members, vice presidents, etc.) running for president. I don't believe in political dynasties or political families in America, whether it's the kennedys or trump or anyone else. The entire point of the system we have in America is to prevent stuff like that from happening.
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Yang’s polling at like 2%, he’s got some serious work to do.
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Its alot higher than that since the polls are only calling Boomers with landlines but your not wrong hes got his work cut out for him. I also hate this logic because if everyone just blindly followed the polls only the Joe Bidens of American politics would win.
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The issue is that the DNC uses the polls from all the old fuckers with landlines. The DNC continues to fuck it’s base. Not really a surprise though, Bernie knows it all too well.
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I am convinced the DNC wants Trump to win. The media blackout on Yang and Gabbard is sickening and they tried that shit on Bernie but he got to big so they have to pay attention to him now.
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Well if they run Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden in consecutive elections, they're either tremendously incompetent or throwing in the towel. They have an agenda and won't deviate from it. Even if it means sacrificing two elections in a row. Clinton was the worst candidate the Dems ever put up, and Biden is a sure loser. Morons.
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When are y’all gonna realize that the Democrats (and their owners) would much rather be the feckless opposition party than the party in control? Even now, they’d rather lose with Biden than win with Sanders.
Winning means they have to govern. And governing means doing what their base wants. And what their base wants is the opposite of what their donors want.
I mean look what happened in 08. Fucking supermajority and they can’t even get a public option. Couldn’t even get card check. Fucking made the bush tax cuts permanent, and THEN putting cutting social security on the table.
And that’s all with a Kissinger grown neoliberal establishment robot like Obama. Imagine the mandate from the public if a democratic socialist won, not only the nomination, but the presidency.
In a political system dominated by corporations, the Democrats are nothing more than controlled opposition. A blow off valve for when the much more blatant GOP oversteps and pisses off the public.
Oh you’re mad about Bush? Here’s Clinton with his saxophone and coolness but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation. Oh you’re mad about the second Bush? Fine here’s the cool black guy who’s eventually fine with gay people, but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation.
And here it comes again with literally any Democratic candidate other than Bernie. “Trump is bad, we need a return to normalcy.” Aka let’s go back to 2015 where we still did all the same shit we are now, but without trump screaming it through a megaphone.
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Theres not a single red hat in that crowd bro... Also thats Elizabeth Warren on the stage
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I totally missed that.... Must be brainwashed
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DividedQuantum said: Well if they run Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden in consecutive elections, they're either tremendously incompetent or throwing in the towel. They have an agenda and won't deviate from it. Even if it means sacrificing two elections in a row. Clinton was the worst candidate the Dems ever put up, and Biden is a sure loser. Morons.
When are y’all gonna realize that the Democrats (and their owners) would much rather be the feckless opposition party than the party in control? Even now, they’d rather lose with Biden than win with Sanders.
Winning means they have to govern. And governing means doing what their base wants. And what their base wants is the opposite of what their donors want.
I mean look what happened in 08. Fucking supermajority and they can’t even get a public option. Couldn’t even get card check. Fucking made the bush tax cuts permanent, and THEN putting cutting social security on the table.
And that’s all with a Kissinger grown neoliberal establishment robot like Obama. Imagine the mandate from the public if a democratic socialist won, not only the nomination, but the presidency.
In a political system dominated by corporations, the Democrats are nothing more than controlled opposition. A blow off valve for when the much more blatant GOP oversteps and pisses off the public.
Oh you’re mad about Bush? Here’s Clinton with his saxophone and coolness but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation. Oh you’re mad about the second Bush? Fine here’s the cool black guy who’s eventually fine with gay people, but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation.
And here it comes again with literally any Democratic candidate other than Bernie. “Trump is bad, we need a return to normalcy.” Aka let’s go back to 2015 where we still did all the same shit we are now, but without trump screaming it through a megaphone.
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DividedQuantum said: Well if they run Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden in consecutive elections, they're either tremendously incompetent or throwing in the towel. They have an agenda and won't deviate from it. Even if it means sacrificing two elections in a row. Clinton was the worst candidate the Dems ever put up, and Biden is a sure loser. Morons.
When are y’all gonna realize that the Democrats (and their owners) would much rather be the feckless opposition party than the party in control? Even now, they’d rather lose with Biden than win with Sanders.
Winning means they have to govern. And governing means doing what their base wants. And what their base wants is the opposite of what their donors want.
I mean look what happened in 08. Fucking supermajority and they can’t even get a public option. Couldn’t even get card check. Fucking made the bush tax cuts permanent, and THEN putting cutting social security on the table.
And that’s all with a Kissinger grown neoliberal establishment robot like Obama. Imagine the mandate from the public if a democratic socialist won, not only the nomination, but the presidency.
In a political system dominated by corporations, the Democrats are nothing more than controlled opposition. A blow off valve for when the much more blatant GOP oversteps and pisses off the public.
Oh you’re mad about Bush? Here’s Clinton with his saxophone and coolness but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation. Oh you’re mad about the second Bush? Fine here’s the cool black guy who’s eventually fine with gay people, but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation.
And here it comes again with literally any Democratic candidate other than Bernie. “Trump is bad, we need a return to normalcy.” Aka let’s go back to 2015 where we still did all the same shit we are now, but without trump screaming it through a megaphone.
This is why I'm thinking Elizabeth Warren is the best we can hope for. Whether it's his own fault or he's getting screwed by the MSM or the DNC, Bernie does not appear to be emerging. This could all change by Super Tuesday, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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DividedQuantum said: Well if they run Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden in consecutive elections, they're either tremendously incompetent or throwing in the towel. They have an agenda and won't deviate from it. Even if it means sacrificing two elections in a row. Clinton was the worst candidate the Dems ever put up, and Biden is a sure loser. Morons.
When are y’all gonna realize that the Democrats (and their owners) would much rather be the feckless opposition party than the party in control? Even now, they’d rather lose with Biden than win with Sanders.
Winning means they have to govern. And governing means doing what their base wants. And what their base wants is the opposite of what their donors want.
I mean look what happened in 08. Fucking supermajority and they can’t even get a public option. Couldn’t even get card check. Fucking made the bush tax cuts permanent, and THEN putting cutting social security on the table.
And that’s all with a Kissinger grown neoliberal establishment robot like Obama. Imagine the mandate from the public if a democratic socialist won, not only the nomination, but the presidency.
In a political system dominated by corporations, the Democrats are nothing more than controlled opposition. A blow off valve for when the much more blatant GOP oversteps and pisses off the public.
Oh you’re mad about Bush? Here’s Clinton with his saxophone and coolness but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation. Oh you’re mad about the second Bush? Fine here’s the cool black guy who’s eventually fine with gay people, but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation.
And here it comes again with literally any Democratic candidate other than Bernie. “Trump is bad, we need a return to normalcy.” Aka let’s go back to 2015 where we still did all the same shit we are now, but without trump screaming it through a megaphone.
This is why I'm thinking Elizabeth Warren is the best we can hope for. Whether it's his own fault or he's getting screwed by the MSM or the DNC, Bernie does not appear to be emerging. This could all change by Super Tuesday, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Ya, Warren has been getting too much support from the mainstream media, and that's why she's gaining. I don't trust her much for that reason, the reasons in your video, and for reasons others have noted.
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She's on tape telling health insurance representatives that medicare for all will never happen.
I won't be voting for her.
Medicare for all will help more people in this country than any other piece of proposed legislation. Environmental legislations are a close second.
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The Ecstatic said:
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DividedQuantum said: Well if they run Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden in consecutive elections, they're either tremendously incompetent or throwing in the towel. They have an agenda and won't deviate from it. Even if it means sacrificing two elections in a row. Clinton was the worst candidate the Dems ever put up, and Biden is a sure loser. Morons.
When are y’all gonna realize that the Democrats (and their owners) would much rather be the feckless opposition party than the party in control? Even now, they’d rather lose with Biden than win with Sanders.
Winning means they have to govern. And governing means doing what their base wants. And what their base wants is the opposite of what their donors want.
I mean look what happened in 08. Fucking supermajority and they can’t even get a public option. Couldn’t even get card check. Fucking made the bush tax cuts permanent, and THEN putting cutting social security on the table.
And that’s all with a Kissinger grown neoliberal establishment robot like Obama. Imagine the mandate from the public if a democratic socialist won, not only the nomination, but the presidency.
In a political system dominated by corporations, the Democrats are nothing more than controlled opposition. A blow off valve for when the much more blatant GOP oversteps and pisses off the public.
Oh you’re mad about Bush? Here’s Clinton with his saxophone and coolness but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation. Oh you’re mad about the second Bush? Fine here’s the cool black guy who’s eventually fine with gay people, but we’re still gonna do imperialism and deregulation.
And here it comes again with literally any Democratic candidate other than Bernie. “Trump is bad, we need a return to normalcy.” Aka let’s go back to 2015 where we still did all the same shit we are now, but without trump screaming it through a megaphone.
This is why I'm thinking Elizabeth Warren is the best we can hope for. Whether it's his own fault or he's getting screwed by the MSM or the DNC, Bernie does not appear to be emerging. This could all change by Super Tuesday, but I wouldn't bet on it.
He’s within the margin of error of 1st place in 3 of the first 4 primary states.
That said, I think the fact that they’ve both taken a hands off approach to one another is smart if Bernie doesn’t secure the nomination. Warren won’t be able to turn her back as easily. Regardless of what happens, Sanders and his movement aren’t going away. That gives me hope for holding the next Democratic administration to account, whoever it may be (although I’d obviously prefer Warren if it’s not Sanders).
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-wealth-tax-rich-billions
Hmm, The Establishment owns a politician like Warren and orders her to spew "tax the rich" rhetoric to get elected. Then once elected, well we all know the rest of the story.
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I mean yeah that’s exactly what’s happening. Adopt some of Bernie’s rhetoric to siphon some support away from him (mostly upper middle class whites), thus protecting Biden’s lead and, if he fails, the establishment can line up behind Warren and overtake Bernie. It’s already happening.
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If nothing else Warren will push bank regulation. Another recession will always come, but let's at least try to avoid another great recession (at least for a while).
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No doubt, the Banksters love writing the next "bank regulation" for their own benefit.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: koods]
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Bernie is the only one with a shot at Trump, Warren isn't even a fair contest.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: qman]
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I don't think Bernie realistically has a chance.
He will bankrupt his donors and the country.
Most people don't support that.
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I hate to rain on Bernie supporters' parade, but it's terribly unlikely.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: XUL]
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He will bankrupt his donors and the country.
Most people don't support that.
How will Bernie bankrupt people with free healthcare and free college?
He'll ask the super rich to pay a little more so everyone else pays less.
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koods said: Lol warren is starting to worry these guys as Bernie slips
Like I said Bernie is within the margin of error in 3 of the first 4 primary states, and is consistently polling ahead of Warren nationally.
I’m not worried about Warren because “omg I might get owned for being a Bernie bro,” it’s because she’s two faced and has already begun to walk back her progressive agenda. And it’s no coincidence that the media and political establishment are lining up behind her.
“But she’s a wonk!”
Yeah and Obama was a constitutional scholar, didn’t stop his administration from drone striking an American citizen or refusing to close Gitmo, NSA surveillance, etc.
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He will bankrupt his donors and the country.
Most people don't support that.
How will Bernie bankrupt people with free healthcare and free college?
He'll ask the super rich to pay a little more so everyone else pays less.
When you keep taxing billionaires at insane rates over time, billionaires begin to disappear. Some will move money out of the country, some will stop taking risks and sit just below the tax line for large taxes, and some will fail.
I suspect moving money out of the country and then downgrading to upper millionaire will be much more popular -- until we start taxing them.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: XUL]
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XUL said: When you keep taxing billionaires at insane rates over time, billionaires begin to disappear. Some will move money out of the country, some will stop taking risks and sit just below the tax line for large taxes, and some will fail.
I suspect moving money out of the country and then downgrading to upper millionaire will be much more popular -- until we start taxing them.
So billionaires would rather be hundred millionaires than getting taxed on billions?
Either way, I don't see how this bankrupts the country.
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It doesnt at all...and if billionaires were being "insanely" taxed they wouldnt be billionaires by way of taxation...most billionaires pay much less by percentage in taxes than the average Joe. Ask Warren Buffet.
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Yeah nobody does that. You’re saying that someone will refuse to make money or invest because whatever money they make will be taxed at a higher rate? You really think people will give up making money just because they have to pay more tax than they used to?
You finally found a way to make a billionaire think “meh, I don’t need more money”
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When you keep taxing billionaires...some will stop taking risks and sit just below the tax line for large taxes, and some will fail.
Yeah nobody does that. You’re saying that someone will refuse to make money or invest because whatever money they make will be taxed at a higher rate? You really think people will give up making money just because they have to pay more tax than they used to?
You finally found a way to make a billionaire think “meh, I don’t need more money”
Not necessarily, but they will exploit loopholes and offshore investments to minimize tax liability. Isn't that what people are bitching about now?
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I would just take my billions and move it elsewhere and pay my taxes to another county. Your right they like money and will find a way to keep it. Fuck paying Uncle Sam 70% when I can pay 15% elsewhere.
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Where can you pay 15% and not be in some third world shithole
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: kd87]
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There's a huge expatriation tax even without Bernie.
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I believe GIBRALTAR is not a shity country and I don't nesecerly have to live there just move my money there
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Lolz all these commoners portraying themselves as knowing how the ultra rich think and move and shake.
y'all only know what you've been carefully spoonfed so you'll unwittingly support what the wealthy want.
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How do you know their effective tax rate is 70%? Warren Buffet has said that his effectove tax rate is lower than his secretary's.
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And never have access to the money because anytime you bring more than $10,000 in to United States, the transaction is reported to the IRS
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I'd do it.
Duel citizenship.
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That’s gonna cut into your theee goats and off the grid lifestyle
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: koods]
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Yeah duel citizenship is highly unpatriotic. A conflict of interest for sure. People with duel citizenship dont know where their allegiance lies.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: koods]
#26183828 - 09/12/19 11:01 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Truth about goats and off grid .
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: XUL]
#26184184 - 09/12/19 02:30 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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XUL said: I'd do it.
Duel citizenship.
How does one fight citizenship?
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: relic]
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With a sword.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: XUL] 1
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Methinks the windmill will get the better of you.
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The Ecstatic
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: koods] 1
#26184564 - 09/12/19 05:22 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: If you’re looking for perfection you should probably just stay away from politics
Did you miss all the posts where I say Sanders is a compromise candidate?
Just more recycled liberal pablum. When you can’t defend your candidate, just say the other people are being unrealistic perfectionists who are hurting democratic unity by invoking purity tests. Blah blah blah get an actual argument.
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The Ecstatic said:
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koods said: If you’re looking for perfection you should probably just stay away from politics
Did you miss all the posts where I say Sanders is a compromise candidate?
Just more recycled liberal pablum. When you can’t defend your candidate, just say the other people are being unrealistic perfectionists who are hurting democratic unity by invoking purity tests. Blah blah blah get an actual argument.
But that would invalidate 90% of people's reason for being online, you undemocratic monster!!!!
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Bernie Sanders is a New Deal Democrat. He wants to move America more toward a social democracy. This means pro-labor regulations, environmental laws, regulation of Wall Street and large corporations, and increases in the social safety net. Healthcare and education would be free.
During the 1940’s Bernie Sanders would be considered a standard liberal Democrat. He would be in tune with FDR and the Democrats of that time. But the political spectrum has shifted so far to the right since 1980 that Sanders is now considered a member of the radical left, a socialist, and some say a communist. Bernie Sanders is not even a socialist. Socialists advocate for the workers to own the means of production and control it themselves. He isn’t advocating for the means of production to be taken from the elites and put into the hands of the workers. He just wants to increase taxes and increase social programs. That is not socialism, even though Bernie calls himself a socialist—he’s not.
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Bernie very may well be a socialist but, yeah, his descriptions of democratic socialism and his agenda items are basic social democrat stuff.
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"CNN News Erases Bernie From Primary Contenders"
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: qman]
#26201856 - 09/21/19 08:32 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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The media is ignoring and smearing Sanders because the ruling class loves socialism
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The Ecstatic said: The media is ignoring and smearing Sanders because the ruling class loves socialism
Medicare For All is their worst nightmare. If "conservatives" and now "liberals" BOTH hate it, it must be good for the peasants.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Warren has been getting too much support from the mainstream media, and that's why she's gaining. I don't trust her much for that reason...
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The Ecstatic said: Warren has a chance now because she’s gotten softer on the rich.
The Ecstatic, myself, and others have made many posts suspecting Warren of being an establishment candidate rather than a progressive candidate.
Now it's certain. She's gotten behind Klobuchar and is has bad words for Bernie supporters.
Krystal Ball says the same:
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The Ecstatic said: NYT ran a story yesterday about how she’s quietly courting establishment figures. She won’t put Medicare For All on her website. She already broke her pledge to not take big donor money by using it to buy the DNC’s mail list. She’s significantly weaker than Bernie on practically every position , she doesn’t have the ground game he does, and she fares worse in a head to head with Trump than Bernie does. But liberals gonna liberal.
Luckily, Bernie is the 2nd choice of about half of Biden voters. As he drops, Bernie will absorb a good deal of his base. Same goes for a good portion (if not majority) of Gabbard and Yang voters, who both sit right around 3% currently. Warren has to win Iowa otherwise she’s done for. Bernie will win NH, Biden will take SC if he doesn’t have a stroke before then. But if he keeps falling in the polls the. Ernie is taking SC. After that is Nevada, which Bernie will likely win. The main thing holding Bernie back is the South, where Biden holds a commanding lead virtually everywhere south of Maryland. The thing is, Bernie has a 10+ point advantage with POC over Warren. The only way Warren is gonna pull this off is if she can somehow galvanize the black community in a scale that would make Obama blush, otherwise she needs Biden to keep Bernie’s numbers low. Either that or Warren would need to absorb the voters of virtually the rest of the field as other candidates drop out, but the numbers aren’t showing that to be the case right now. For all we hear about Bernie stagnating in the polls (he’s actually gradually rising since the debates), it’s actually Warren who seems to have plateaued over the past month or so. Biden down a few, Bernie up a few, but even with a similar candidate like Kamala Harris plummeting in the polls, Warren doesn’t seem to pick up those voters.
All that being said we’re still 6 months out from the first primary, anything could happen. But it is interesting to see how things seem to be trending. Like the fact that Yang is beating Mayor Pete right now 
Other than screwing up the order of Nevada before South Carolina, damn I fuckin nailed it.
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Klobuchar WTF. I suspected she would do something stupid when she dropped out, but she's too indecisive to even drop out. Doesn't she know at this point they're supposed to coalesce behind Bloomberg?
I had no idea how to spell coalesce. It must be the first time I ever wrote the word.
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I heard Hillary bitch about Sanders on Ellen the other day.... That cunt doesnt realize that 2016 is over and that Sanders is the rock the boat candidate like Trump was 4 years ago.
Also, fuck Hollywood for keeping Hillary relevant... Desperately trying to hang on to the little power she has left over the Democrats...
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I wonder if people will ever recover from Hillary Derangement Syndrome?
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Citizen X]
#26485489 - 02/14/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Citizen X said: I wonder if people will ever recover from Hillary Derangement Syndrome?
Unfortunately, I think any remaining Hillary supporters only have a very small chance of recovering at this point.
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Patlal
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Bernie is way up in the polls this week.
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Patlal]
#28462325 - 09/08/23 11:15 AM (4 months, 17 days ago) |
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: koods]
#28462363 - 09/08/23 12:06 PM (4 months, 17 days ago) |
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Just another bizarre moment
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