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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: qman] * 1
    #26156058 - 08/27/19 07:49 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

You say sarcastically but it’s true. We’ve already elected that candidate in 2016 and it didn’t turn out to well for anyone other than wealthy whites.

Sanders is better than Warren on policy and has a diverse base. Win win.


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26156080 - 08/27/19 08:04 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I like Warren, but I'm nervous about the amount of support she's getting from the mainstream media.  Did she make a deal to talk the talk, but not walk the walk?


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26156107 - 08/27/19 08:22 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

NYT ran a story yesterday about how she’s quietly courting establishment figures. She won’t put Medicare For All on her website. She already broke her pledge to not take big donor money by using it to buy the DNC’s mail list. She’s significantly weaker than Bernie on practically every position , she doesn’t have the ground game he does, and she fares worse in a head to head with Trump than Bernie does. But liberals gonna liberal.

Luckily, Bernie is the 2nd choice of about half of Biden voters. As he drops, Bernie will absorb a good deal of his base. Same goes for a good portion (if not majority) of Gabbard and Yang voters, who both sit right around 3% currently. Warren has to win Iowa otherwise she’s done for. Bernie will win NH, Biden will take SC if he doesn’t have a stroke before then. But if he keeps falling in the polls the. Ernie is taking SC. After that is Nevada, which Bernie will likely win. The main thing holding Bernie back is the South, where Biden holds a commanding lead virtually everywhere south of Maryland. The thing is, Bernie has a 10+ point advantage with POC over Warren.  The only way Warren is gonna pull this off is if she can somehow galvanize the black community in a scale that would make Obama blush, otherwise she needs Biden to keep Bernie’s numbers low. Either that or Warren would need to absorb the voters of virtually the rest of the field as other candidates drop out, but the numbers aren’t showing that to be the case right now. For all we hear about Bernie stagnating in the polls (he’s actually gradually rising since the debates), it’s actually Warren who seems to have plateaued over the past month or so. Biden down a few, Bernie up a few, but even with a similar candidate like Kamala Harris plummeting in the polls, Warren doesn’t seem to pick up those voters.


All that being said we’re still 6 months out from the first primary, anything could happen. But it is interesting to see how things seem to be trending. Like the fact that Yang is beating Mayor Pete right now :rofl:


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26156229 - 08/27/19 10:04 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

He is a curmudgeon. AND I HAVE a point:  When pacing a crowd, you should first by calming them, and develop good rapport.  Watch how Obama paces the crowd, and calm them at first.  Then he builds it up and makes his suggestions.  He always starts with a story, just like a Erickson Milton is pacing and inducts someone into a trance.


Obama was the best at this. Warren is trying that, but she is not even close to Obama's skill. 


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26156243 - 08/27/19 10:14 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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he is a curmudgeon.



In establishment memes and cartoons he is.


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: mildhigh]
    #26156400 - 08/28/19 01:34 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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For someone on a magic mushroom thread you sure are an egotistical asshole completely molded by western bullshit developed over generations upon generations of corruption. Wake up, left or right don't care about you.




Lol new user thinking he's got some revolutionary shit going on.

Sit down and take another hit and chill.


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26156577 - 08/28/19 06:45 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
he is a curmudgeon.



In establishment memes and cartoons he is.




He might not remember because of the stroke but starfire was a huge Ted Cruz fan during the 2016 primaries.


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26156584 - 08/28/19 06:49 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: christopera]
    #26156587 - 08/28/19 06:51 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Uncanny


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26156654 - 08/28/19 07:59 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I liked Ted Cruz, but he just wasn't there yet.


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: XUL] * 1
    #26156677 - 08/28/19 08:15 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah the fact that he grovels to the guy who called his wife ugly and his dad a murderer shows real promise.


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: The Ecstatic] * 4
    #26157426 - 08/28/19 03:36 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Bernie Sanders would bring America to where it desperately needs to go. Just saying.


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: starfire_xes] * 3
    #26157467 - 08/28/19 03:59 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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No one give a flying fuck about what a European socialist thinks.  The democrat candidates should have snorkels up their ass so that can breathe with their heads up their asses.




There’s no need to be like that. I agree to be honest, Bernie all the way! I saw a Hospital Bill for a woman who was raped and just for things we take for granted like Paracetamol etc it was something stupid like $250. The US has got to the point now that most
countries laugh at how stupid y’all are with your Wotsit for a president 😂


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #26157934 - 08/28/19 07:26 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Bernie Sanders would bring America to where it desperately needs to go. Just saying.




That may be true but he’s way too nice to Guatemalans for me to ever vote for him.


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26158007 - 08/28/19 08:05 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Bernie Sanders would bring America to where it desperately needs to go. Just saying.




That may be true but he’s way too nice to Guatemalans for me to ever vote for him.




Who gives a fuck about guatamala


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #26158011 - 08/28/19 08:07 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #26161585 - 08/30/19 10:04 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Luckily, Bernie is the 2nd choice of about half of Biden voters. As he drops, Bernie will absorb a good deal of his base. Same goes for a good portion (if not majority) of Gabbard and Yang voters, who both sit right around 3% currently.



Tulsi may be at 3%, but the DNC doesn't recognize polls where she's doing well, and so they won't let her in the next debate.

She got more than enough donors to qualify, but the DNC says she didn't meet their 2% threshold.

Here's a take you won't see on the mainstream news (except Tucker Carlson):



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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26176897 - 09/08/19 11:10 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Uh oh.  This poll puts Tulsi within Kamela's margin of error:

‘Top-Tier’ Harris Leads Gabbard by Less Than Margin of Error
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Sen. Kamala Harris (D., Calif.) called herself a "top-tier" candidate in July while mocking Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D., Hawaii) for her low polling, but in a new survey Harris leads Gabbard by less than the margin of error.

Harris received just 5 percent support from likely Democratic primary voters in a new Economist/YouGov poll, down 4 points from the same survey last month. Gabbard was right behind Harris with 3 percent support, meaning Harris's advantage is within the poll's margin of error of 2.6 percent.




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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26176967 - 09/09/19 12:57 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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:lolsy:




No one give a flying fuck about what a European socialist thinks.




Canadians too, real talk


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Re: Bernie Sanders...... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26176968 - 09/09/19 01:02 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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So what is Bernies new campaign slogan?  GET OFF MY LAWN  :awesomenod:



Do you have a video or something?  I don't know what you're talking about here.







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