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Re: Dreaming Vs. Tripping [Re: DrGreenThumb865]
    #14613545 - 06/14/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i've heard that your pineal gland releasing dmt thing hasn't been prooven

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Re: Dreaming Vs. Tripping [Re: explosivekush]
    #14613745 - 06/14/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i've heard that your pineal gland releasing dmt thing hasn't been prooven



I'm sure it isn't DMT... But most likely something similar in chemistry.

DMT probably fits the same receptor that the natural chemical which allows us to dream binds to. This is similar to cannabinoids (THC, CBD, etc..) in how they fit certain receptors in the brain almost perfectly.


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Re: Dreaming Vs. Tripping [Re: JimLahey]
    #14613976 - 06/14/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Joolz said:
I smoke too much pot to remember my dreams.

GIMMI SOME TRIPPIN FOODS PLEASE




I have not been effected by this, I smoke about 2 grams a day and have been doing so for 5 years, my dreams are usually pretty crazy so I tend to remember lots of parts of them, maybe I am lucky. I remember when I had to quit for probation a few years ago my dreams were super intense and crazy. Maybe my melatonin is not as off as yours?





I noticed a decrease in dreaming when I first started smoking and went to bed really high I didn't have dreams. Now though my tolerance is high and I don't get stoned for as long so personally I'm guessing that's why I have started having really lucid dreams lately.

I prefer tripping to dreaming though for sure. Tripping can be very fulfilling for a long period of time due to the experience that was real.

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Re: Dreaming Vs. Tripping [Re: Sorealism]
    #14614376 - 06/14/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Another time I will 'feel' like I'm in my house but it is entirely a different house




So true.  In dreams, we accept the reality around us as true.  Just like we accept the world around us in our waking life, we accept a similar yet different reality when dreaming.  So, which one is true?  I often thought that the dream life was real, and from that we escape to a more "real" world when we wake from our dreams.

Another thing I wanted to share was that my lucid dreams tend to be pretty terrifying.  When I can't wake myself from a dream and I'm on the cusp of the dream world and consciousness, I have always had gripping feelings of either a presence being in my bedroom that I can't wake to defend myself from, or something in my dream coming for me that I can't seem to completely wake and escape from.


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Re: Dreaming Vs. Tripping [Re: explosivekush]
    #26154639 - 08/27/19 12:58 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

For years, I was unable to dream due to daily cannabis consumption, but for the last couple years I've stopped cannabis use, and my dreams returned.  I've been surprised by how random, vivid, and nonsensical they are.  That said, during the dreams, I feel as if all I am witnessing makes complete sense.  I've noticed that even though language communicates perfectly while dreaming, I'm not exactly "speaking," as I am communicating to.. well, what appear to be other people, but could just be manifestations of the mind, or other entities.

My experience with mushrooms carry a similar quality to dreams in that both have a quality of the nonsensical thought process "feeling" as if that thought process is completely logical and makes sense.

The difference being, of course, is that I am still somehow immersed in my waking reality and there is a kind of "overlay" of fractals and moving textures that is generally absent from my dreams.  Instead, the visuals of dreams are more like looking through a fish eyed glass, with perspective being skewed.

The experience of gravity, in particular, has been starkly absent from my dreams.  I have had the experience of falling and hitting what appears to be a hard surface in dreams, and simply got up being fine.  I have also floated, flown, and swam in dreams without having the harsh effects of say breaking my body or drowning while dreaming.

The inclination to attempt to fly or swim has never occurred to me while under the influence of mushrooms, even under what I would consider heavy doses.  This is perhaps due to the fact that I haven't taken a high enough dose, but I am glad that I have never mistaken a trip for a dream, as the consequences of attempting to fly in a dream are far less than attempting to fly while tripping...


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Re: Dreaming Vs. Tripping [Re: teonanacatl83]
    #26154648 - 08/27/19 01:23 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Consciousness within consciousness, nested like Russian Dolls.

When you're "awake", reality is more consensually shared with other beings.

When "dreaming", you're still "the container" for all objects, people, places, events, and circumstances.

Do drugs and watch the line blur between both.


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Re: Dreaming Vs. Tripping [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26154895 - 08/27/19 08:40 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Dreaming and Tripping are well... In the same realm.

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