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Blue Oysters
    #2615267 - 04/29/04 10:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have a Mycobag fully colonized and I have some logs that were cut last year,they are hardwood(oak I think).Can I somehow innoculate these logs with what I have and grow them outdoors?
I'm in central Florida BTW.


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2617840 - 04/29/04 07:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have not tried colonizing year old logs before , but I did with some freshly cut ones. They were cottonwood logs which i put in bags with a few handfuls of spawn in each bag and I just smeared it as best as i could on the logs and then punched holes in the bags with a nail. they completely colonized in about 5 months. Here are pics of them fruiting(last summer):



same flush, different angle:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: billbraski]
    #2618177 - 04/29/04 09:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hey very nice!
I may just try to fruit them as is-I have never grown oysters before and I assume I will screw it up so no need to get ahead of myself.
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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2619772 - 04/30/04 03:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm kind of confused. What is fully colonized inside of your mycobag; grain, sawdust, plugs or straw? The answer you seek depends on those:

Grain ---> Pasteurize straw and spawn after cooling and draining. you can really ghettofy this process for cultivation outdoors.
Sawdust ----> Fruit it directly out of the bag, spawn it into straw, or make log columns.
Straw ---> Fruit it directly or superspawn into more straw.

I do not know your indoor setup; however, you will probably enjoy fruiting outside more. You'll need a lot of air exchange or you'll get antler like mushrooms that are only good for soup bases. You can give your substrate a more thorough soaking outside and your fruits will last longer once harvested.


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: YidakiMan]
    #2619831 - 04/30/04 04:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I won this from Mycobag!Thanks again Mycobag!!
I have no idea what is inside this bag-I didnt prepare it,but it looks like some kind of wood debri.
I dont really have an indoor setup.Just a shelf to set it on.
I birthed it last night-well I cut the slots in the bag and draped the humidity tent over the top of it.I hope I havent screwed this up.I have never tasted oysters before.


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2626473 - 05/01/04 04:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The blue oyster kit from Mycobag is straw based.


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: kushlover]
    #2627253 - 05/02/04 08:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So it can be spawned to more straw right?


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    #2627675 - 05/02/04 01:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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    #2630912 - 05/03/04 09:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks! :thumbup: :cool:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2636675 - 05/04/04 02:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have pins!!!!!
I dont have enough upload space to post a pic at this time but as soon as i can Oh I will!!!!

YYYYYEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO

My first grow rocks! :thumbup: :cool:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2637126 - 05/04/04 04:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:laugh: pins rock  :thumbup:

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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: shirley knott]
    #2640824 - 05/05/04 10:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

LOOOOOOOKYYYYYY HereVVVVVVVVVV





WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Thanks MYCOBAG!!!!!!

They are even bigger this morning!upload more in 3 hours(this limit thing sucks)!

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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2642083 - 05/05/04 04:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

omg! same pic as the last one but a few hours later!WOOHOO!


They grow quick!

Putting them outside made an improvement I think-Thanks Shirley!


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2642153 - 05/05/04 05:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, you just like to rub that in my face eh? lol...


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2642165 - 05/05/04 05:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

AY YAH MAN!!!!
:lol:
:thumbup: :cool: :lol:

I really hate it that yours didnt work for you though!
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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2642194 - 05/05/04 05:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hey it aint no thang man... they werent gonna make me trip anyways lol!


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2642443 - 05/05/04 06:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

LOL,you have a point there!But it would still have been great to grow them,mine may die tomorrow but at least I got them to where they are at,ya know?
Did you ever come to a conclusion on why yours havent showed growth yet?
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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2644490 - 05/06/04 08:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

WOW!!!!!

These damn things grow very fast!!!!




Damn limit-I have a better pic-I'll post it in 2 hours
This pics are taken 24 hours apart.
What do these things taste like?(mushrooms duh!lol)
:thumbup: :cool:

this evening pics





how big do they get?


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2647439 - 05/06/04 10:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

bump!


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2649207 - 05/07/04 07:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

and again this morning



More in 2 hours!

I am planning on spawning these to straw after this flush,any tips?


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2651552 - 05/07/04 10:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

A few minutes ago





When will these be ready to eat?


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2651992 - 05/08/04 01:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

They should get a little bigger, but you don't want to wake up to a spore mess... They look small to me, but everyone has different results. At the first sign of spores, I would pick them immediately. Try to keep them in a whole cluster when you pick them, only cutting off the portion you intend to eat at a time.

Once this flush is done, dunk the thing and incubate in darkness. Try to keep the CO2 up during incubation (seal the hole or put it in a small sealed container). This will help build up nutrients for the 2nd flush (elevating carbon dioxide will prevent pins). Poke extra holes in the bag (if it is square, one hole on each side).


You could eat them now if you wanted, or wait and let them get a bit bigger...


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: ATWAR]
    #2652707 - 05/08/04 07:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Has anyone told you lately,Your great?
Well you are!
Thanks alot for the info.I'll post pics of them this morning as soon as I get my limit back up.

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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2652725 - 05/08/04 07:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Very nice and good job!

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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: MycoFactory]
    #2652736 - 05/08/04 08:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hey thank you MYCOBAG!!!!!!!!!!!

You get the credit for this-all I did was water them!!!!lol :cool:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2653460 - 05/08/04 03:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

VERY nice! :smile: 

I love these mushrooms, Blue Oysters...

And yes, I have seen them growing at my friend GgreatOne's, and they develop FAST!


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: MizzJazzy]
    #2653543 - 05/08/04 03:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you went and changed it on me!lol :cool:

Thanks !


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2653578 - 05/08/04 04:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

heheheh! Why thank you!

And keep at those mushrooms!

(Chicks dig grower's... heheh!) :heartpump:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: MizzJazzy]
    #2653584 - 05/08/04 04:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

WOOHOO!

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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2653617 - 05/08/04 04:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I see that you, too, are in Florida... how convenient... :wink: 

heheheh :lol:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: MizzJazzy]
    #2653637 - 05/08/04 04:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yep,east coast.
Here is the other pics of themVVVVV


http://www.sacredshrooms.org/forums/show...;o=&fpart=1


I am going to harvest them in the morning for breakfast! :thumbup: :cool:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: MizzJazzy]
    #2655992 - 05/09/04 08:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Do you know a good recipe? :grin:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2656058 - 05/09/04 09:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Heheheh... You offering to share??? :smile:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: MizzJazzy]
    #2656064 - 05/09/04 09:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Sure!
There isnt much,but your welcome to a taste!

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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2656069 - 05/09/04 09:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Mmmmmmmm.... :tongue:
<hops into her car and heads to the east coast!> heheheh


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: MizzJazzy]
    #2656081 - 05/09/04 09:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

LOL


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    #2656345 - 05/09/04 12:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

MMMM... oysters in hot pot... shiet :drooling:


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    #2656468 - 05/09/04 01:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Damn those things were delicious!
I got 35.48 grams from that one cluster-is that good?


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    #2657382 - 05/09/04 05:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

SO.... they were good, eh?  How did you cook em? Wha did you eat them with???

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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: MizzJazzy]
    #2657617 - 05/09/04 06:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

HEHEHE a little salt,pepper,and real butter,saute'd over medium heat until Golden brown(well almost brown).

I honestly believe they were the best I have tasted!
Of course there was only enough to tease!

I did notice the young ones were alot tastier than the bigger ones in that flush,and the bigs one were just a little tough.I think I waited just a little too long to pic,but they great!


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    #2657824 - 05/09/04 07:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Wow... it's good to see that photo of the Oysters at their almost-past-prime picking state! Now the rest of us know not to wait too long if you want the best tasting mushrooms! Thanks, Doc!

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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: MizzJazzy]
    #2659598 - 05/10/04 03:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:cool: :thumbup:

I dunked the bag over night and put it in another humidity tent.

Second flush or failure is on it's way! :smile:


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2660147 - 05/10/04 05:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I should have made this clear when I mentioned when to pick them:

As with any mushroom, the younger ones are usually the best tasting. Good luck with the 2nd flush, and I am glad you liked them. You cannot buy a better tasting mushroom than the ones you grow fresh at home. I have never, and will never buy mushrooms at the grocery store.

They don't even look like oysters here, and the agaricus is always bruised badly. Totally un-appetizing to me. Welcome to the wonderful world of fresh edibles Doc!

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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: ATWAR]
    #2660279 - 05/10/04 06:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks ATWAR,

One question,should I have picked the individual mushrooms or the whole cluster?I picked the whole thing.


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    #2660340 - 05/10/04 06:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Pick the whole cluster. You avoid handling them this way, and they will store better (if they make it to storage :wink: )...


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: doc34]
    #2661234 - 05/10/04 09:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

heheheh... make it storage.... certainly won't happen in my case! :smile:

I plan to order a small myco-kit of Blue Oysters a.s.a.p.!!!
(I'd also like to try the Lion's Mane???)


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Re: Blue Oysters [Re: ATWAR]
    #2662047 - 05/11/04 07:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah the lions mane looks kool,my next grow!

STORAGE????Isnt that the funniest!
I stored mine in my gut!hahahaha

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Re: Their back! [Re: doc34]
    #2861095 - 07/06/04 11:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well,I attempted to spawn the Oysters to some straw which failed drastically.
First,my pasteurisation times were off-I pasteurized for 2 hours at 170'f.I then let cool and stuffed it into a 'homeade bag' and sealed it up airtight
I forgot they needed air exchange and left them in that sealed bag for 2 weeks when I read that I had screwed up,and so I went poked holes in it,lmao,Which in turn led to a massive "black pin mold" infestation.So ,unfortunatly,I had to toss
them in the trash!!

Then the next day,I was talking to a friend of mine,ATWAR,and I explained what had happened and she told me how to save them using the cardboard trick,which I immediately went and dug them out of the trash and attempted to save them.At this point there was only one spot of mycelium that wasn't over-run with black pin mold and I dug it out(unsterile,lmao)and then I went to saving them.

I made probably 24 cardboard cultures following the proceedures outlined in this thread  Cardboard cloning tek

So a few days go by and I send some to my friend to help me save them on agar,which she does!,and then I waited for them to colonise the cardboard.This is where I really thought all had been lost,because the growth that I had seen was very thin and whispy-like cobweb.



So,I said 'WTF' and took one piece of cardboard and cut off a little piece and put one it into a prepared jar karo water,and I waited.Well,after about 4 days I noticed growth in the karo water VVVV


6/18/04
So I said 'yes' and made 5 jars of WBS and then I did a transfer of cardboard pieces(from the same piece that I took the first piece from I used in the karo water)and put a small piece in each jar.
They really started taking off-at first I thought I was growing a contam,but that soon changed VVVV



6/26 VVVV


6/27 VVV


Jar 5 contamned with the green mold so it was put aside in quaranteen(sp?)The karo jar also contamned and it was tossed out,But the other 4 jars fully colonised and then I spawned 3 of them to a small amount of straw,which this time I pasteurized for 1 hour at 160'f,then I stuffed it into a newer designed bag of mine(yes I put a hole in it this time!!!)VVVI kept one back in the fridge for later use.



which they devoured almost immediately this time!!! VVV


So today I went and spawned 1 bag to some hardwood shavings(Cherry)that I had around the house. VVVV




Now we wait.
I know I am the experimental type and these oysters have been to hell and back,lamo,but I think I have them now and I will post pics as I go along.I am trying the Cherry shavings because I have alot of them on hand.I read that they will fruit on hardwoods and Cherry is a hardwood.It's just an experiment,who knows they may love it.They have made it this far-a little more torture shouldn't hurt them,lol!


Thank You ATWAR for ALL of your help!!!


:cool: :thumbup:


Oh,and I almost forgot--->jar 5??????
Well,as you can see by the oulines that it is 'kickin the crap' out of the green stuff!!!VVVV



It has almost completely taken over the contam!This jar will used to spawn an outdoor plot later in this thread.
It was kept in complete darkness.

These are the toughest little mushrooms I have ever seen!

Thanks MycoBag,ATWAR and the Shroomery for all of your help and information.I couldn't have gotten this far without you guy's and gal's!


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Re: Their back! [Re: doc34]
    #2861305 - 07/06/04 01:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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doc34 said:
I know I am the experimental type and these oysters have been to hell and back,lamo,but I think I have them now and I will post pics as I go along.




<- I have them now too..  :grin:

Quote:

Thank You ATWAR for ALL of your help!!!




No, Thank you Doc! I now have another oyster to grow. So long as my advice helped you, that is enough for me. And on the plus side, I got a free culture. Your the one that did all the work, not me. I am so very glad you got them before trash day!  :tongue:
Hey, I have an idea on how you can thank me... Get out there and clone me a wild Florida oyster!

Good luck on the 2nd round!
:thumbup: :thumbup:

Oh yeah, before I go... If anyone reads this that knows, is the blue oyster to be considered a separate species or a variant of ostreatus? Is it Pleurotus columbinus or Pleurotus ostreatus var columbinus? It says something of this nature in GGMM, but I was curious to know if a consensus has been made...


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Re: Their back! [Re: ATWAR]
    #2861680 - 07/06/04 04:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Lol,I forgot to mention that they hitched a ride across the continent,in a sandwich baggie,wrapped in an envelope,in the middle of June,in the back of some mail truck,to arrive at your house.

->"Hey, I have an idea on how you can thank me... Get out there and clone me a wild Florida oyster!"

I'm working on that!


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Re: Their back! [Re: doc34]
    #2861781 - 07/06/04 04:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've got about a dozen prints on aluminum from some Oysters found in Myakka City (southwest)florida, about a month ago.

PM If interested, id love to set up some trades.


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Re: Their back! [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #2861855 - 07/06/04 05:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

PM sent

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Re: Their back! [Re: doc34]
    #2915450 - 07/22/04 12:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

There back!!!!!!



This is one of the straw bags that I made.The Cherry shavings are still colonizing and I'll post pics of them when they are done.
I also made 3 more big bags yesterday,plus I have 5 more straw bags like this one colonizing.
And to think I almost let the trash have them,lol.
That little brown spot is where I left them out in the sun.I had to leave in a hurry and forgot them,but,I think they will be ok-after what all they have been through,I know they will,lol.
more to come soon!


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Re: Their back! [Re: doc34]
    #2920454 - 07/23/04 02:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

WOOHOOOOOOO!!!!






YESSSSSS!

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Re: Their back! [Re: doc34]
    #3031771 - 08/21/04 08:57 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Some more pics for ya :smile:







I found that the plastic bags my newspaper comes in are quite handy,lol.That would be the yellow bag.I get a new one everyday so the supply is there-might as well put them to use.








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Re: Their back! [Re: doc34]
    #3031874 - 08/21/04 10:14 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Nice!  :thumbup:



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    #3032177 - 08/21/04 12:53 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :rolleyes: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Really beautiful ...
Would you trade a print of them against a print of pink oysters ?


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Re: Their back! [Re: ragadinks]
    #3033828 - 08/21/04 08:38 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)


Thanks

Sure will,pm me.


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