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OfflineAjna_Chakra
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Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find
    #2613861 - 04/29/04 12:57 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Habitat: Woodchips/Bark of garden variety
Believe them to be Psilocybe subaeruginosa.

After they were picked and brought home I noticed some discoloration. This continued until they had faded from a dark brown to near white. Is this a common occurence, and if so, why?

Also, they do have hollow stems but do not bruise blue.

As this is my first season as a picker, I would GREATLY appreciate an experienced shroomers advice before I have a moment of weakness and eat them hehehhe ...

Here are some pictures of my find:











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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2614131 - 04/29/04 02:02 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Those top ones definately arent.

I'm 95% sure the rest aren't either, I may be wrong but I don't think so.

P subs. always have some blue staining, and up to this point, the weather simply wouldn't support the growth of subs.

I don't think those are poisonous but I definately wouldn't eat them anyway.

If I'm wrong then someone correct me.


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2614180 - 04/29/04 02:13 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I am quite positive that these are not subs. There would be moderate to heavy blue staining after a few minutes, and the caps doesn't look like subs at all. They tend to be quite wavy when they're a bit more mature.

Check out nOs' posting from yesterday to see what subs looks like.


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: starfungi]
    #2614210 - 04/29/04 02:20 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Those look like Pan Foe's to me,Pan Subs would have alot darker of a stem,although those caps up there in your pics look alot more bell shaped than most Pan Foe pics Ive seen,but Im pretty sure thats what they are.
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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2614332 - 04/29/04 02:49 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

they look like Psathyrellas to me, close to P. gracilis. if so the spores will be black.

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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2614340 - 04/29/04 02:50 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Those are most likely some sort of Psathyrella....most likely Psathyrella gracilis. They are not active.


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: spores]
    #2614344 - 04/29/04 02:51 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

AYE! Ya beat me by a minute... :laugh:


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2614772 - 04/29/04 04:34 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

you'll know when u find subs... they bruise blue like a biatch!


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2615044 - 04/29/04 06:40 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Psathyrellas have thinner stems and usually have a ring towards the margin - could be, but i would think not.
Definately note subaeruginosa - if it dont stain blue in melbourne on wood, then it aint subaeruginosa.


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2615046 - 04/29/04 06:41 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

discolouration of the cap or the whole mushroom??


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2615070 - 04/29/04 06:58 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

discoloration only on the cap


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2615436 - 04/29/04 11:42 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

my guess would have been maybe Tubaria furfuracea although the matured caps arent looking so... gracilis?


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2616182 - 04/29/04 02:42 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

damn.....I thought they were Pan Foe's,I guess not...those caps are really throwing me off tho.
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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: pfshroomer]
    #2617912 - 04/29/04 08:00 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

panaeolus foenisecii are found on soil/grass, not a liginous species.


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: pfshroomer]
    #2618389 - 04/29/04 10:01 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for all the feedback guys - so, just to confirm, they def. are not active? I have been finding them in abundance (found a patch growing my backyard!) of late.


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2618561 - 04/29/04 10:28 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely not active,
my guess would be with psathyrella also.

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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: Ajna_Chakra]
    #2618842 - 04/29/04 11:23 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Just for future reference try and cut or brake the mushrooms off at the step rather than plucking them from the ground (not sure if u did pluck then or not, but it apears u may have?)  eitherway best of luck next time :smile:

PS:  MJ explained why u should should pluck/pick them straight from the ground in this post here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: @cro]
    #2620276 - 04/30/04 09:19 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Im surprised but it could be i suppose - just different to what id expect from the Psath. - they almost look like a coprinus. species i often find in Melbourne - the stem in particular, but it doesnt sound like they turned into a black blob of ooze...:)
No not active - keep looking for blue stainers - subs stain dark blue...You wont miss it...


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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: TheGrudge]
    #2620849 - 04/30/04 12:09 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Mushrooms growing in grass or pastures but not directly form manure. This would be for lawn or field varieties of P. semilanceata, P. stuntzii, P. baeocystis, P. fimetaria, etc.

They grow with the muycelium attached tothe roots of wild grasses and lawn grasses. You do not pluckl. you lift them from the ground without squeezing them so as to not cause oxidation.

There is no need to cut grass shrooms with scissors. The body fo the mycelia is not disturned as in wood varieties where the mycelia is very thick.

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Re: Need ID on poss Melbourne Psilocybe subaeruginosa find [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2624339 - 05/01/04 03:26 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

ohh well there u go. my bad :smile:.  thanks MJ once again ur knowlege proves me wrong :wink:.


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