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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: Josex]
    #25189284 - 05/07/18 09:40 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Oh! I didn't know that, so I can save the nutes and use only sterile water.

Yeah! Thanks <3


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Re: <font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Re: Guía de Josex para No-verter Agar. </font></font> [Re: roses4lg]
    #25224883 - 05/24/18 07:36 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

@josex those jars are what here in Spain use Chinese restaurants for sweet and sour sauce?

Edited by turbo (05/24/18 08:54 AM)

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: roses4lg]
    #25224976 - 05/24/18 08:18 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

You can say it's that type of container. The ones you can find in restaurants for takeaway food are usually very bad quality though and non-suitable for agar work.

If you can, search around on Ebay. Finding the right containers takes patience and some cunning, but there are good containers out there waiting to be found.

I'm afraid the ones I use are no longer for sale, otherwise I'd give you the link. The OP tells you how to look for them and the type of container you want. Good luck. :thumbup:

Edited by Josex (05/24/18 08:43 AM)

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: Josex]
    #25281935 - 06/20/18 08:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I'm considering switching to no-pour using these jars but am hesitant after just learning and having success with the pour method. For pour, I like the visibility and ease of movement/stacking in the SAB, but the cost of plastic petris and the need to always buy is dissuading me from continuing it.
My question, how much is visibility compromised in your jars compared to petri? Anything you can say to persuade me to switch?

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: hermanium]
    #25282012 - 06/20/18 08:56 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I'm well aware the OP is such a TL;DR, just a bad habit I have, but if you have the time to read it all I'm pretty sure it'll persuade you.

I wouldn't switch to petris even if I had them for free, no kidding. The only thing they have to offer imo is better visibility and maybe a bit more size. The thought of having to pour them, wrap them up and buy new boxes is a huge deterrent for me.

You can also stack this type of containers,. You can make a fuck ton of them one day and they'll be good for up to 2 months or more, so you'll always have blank plates handy. You don't have to wrap them before pc'ing and the MP tape will last many many cycles so no need to change it, just add another layer on top of the old ones when these deteriorate. They're super fast and easy to clean, very ergonomic and easy to handle. I could go on and on but it's all in the OP.

The cons... it's not easy to find appropriate containers, visibility can't compare with petris (but tbh is good enough to distinguish growth and contams and even take decent pics sometimes), although the critical moment when you really need to see the culture is when you open the lid to take a wedge. They take more space than petris too, but very little and you can stack them really tall.

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: Josex]
    #25282089 - 06/20/18 09:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I appreciate your response, I had read parts of the OP looking for that comparison but I'll reread it entirely now.

Edited by hermanium (06/20/18 09:35 PM)

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: hermanium]
    #25282102 - 06/20/18 09:37 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

No, I wouldn't. It was the exact same link, same vendor and the exact same pic as the containers I use. So I shared that link in the OP with total confidence when I published it, only to discover days later when some people bought them that they weren't the same containers I use.

According to the people who bought them, those are not that bad. The plastic is much thinner than mine and the lids are a bitch to open apparenty, but you can work with them.

I'd look for better ones if I was you, though.

Edit: Mental note... always quote people before they decide to do a ninja edit. :rofl:
What I said above won't make sense now lol

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: Josex]
    #25282118 - 06/20/18 09:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry I removed that link after I realized it didn't ship to the U.s. Ugh, it's bedtime.

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: Josex]
    #25369162 - 08/05/18 10:45 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

thank you so much for this tek great info bookmarked for sure my friend

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: Fungeyes]
    #25431443 - 09/02/18 07:46 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Has anyone every used a syringe filters  on no pour plates instead of micropore. I have 100s of them but no micro pore atm wondering if they would work instead

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: bakenast]
    #25486950 - 09/24/18 11:17 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

1st attempt in progress

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: motifaded] * 1
    #25489977 - 09/26/18 07:57 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Hola muchachos!
Just checking in to ask the guys who ended up ordering the "wrong ones",
now with some time passed, what's your conclusion about them?
Sucks being in europe when it comes to mushroom growing equipment...


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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: OericOss]
    #25490587 - 09/26/18 01:32 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I'm still using the "wrong" plates with great success. I've become accustomed to using the lids at this point. I've used a plate that was 2 months old successfully so they work just fine. Haven't noticed any degradation through pressure cooker cycles yet either. Not the perfect container, but I still quite like them. I can fit exactly 60 of them in my 23q Presto, which works perfectly for my needs.

Here's a current culture I have going in one of them:

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: Josex]
    #25660788 - 12/06/18 01:52 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Nice thread for sure

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: Josex]
    #26051754 - 06/14/19 07:07 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Whats the problem with the ones with 'hinged' lids?

Is it just that they are hard to open? Or is their some contamination due to crappy lid.

I have a bunch around here from getting take-away with dipping sauce. The hinges could be cut off if not being able to remove the lid is the issue. I did try one upside-down with water and found it leaked though.

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: Josex]
    #26054397 - 06/15/19 05:20 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: lilwoman] * 1
    #26066320 - 06/21/19 07:33 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Did anyone find a source in the U.S.?

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: HemiSync]
    #26137455 - 08/15/19 05:17 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Thoughts on a no-pour way to make slants for storage of cultures?

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: HemiSync]
    #26199740 - 09/20/19 04:54 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I found and just ordered some of these to try out. Free (and long) shipping from China to US, will try to remember to update on quality. ebay.com/itm/142706597557

update:
These worked just fine for the tek but 10 of the 50 ordered came broken. Has been a great way to start agar, thanks Josex:thumbup:!

Edited by crosstree (10/13/19 09:09 PM)

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Re: Josex' Guide to No-pour Agar. [Re: crosstree]
    #26206850 - 09/24/19 03:23 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Hi! I hope bumping this thread isnt against the law :laugh:

I just wanted to ask you what would your advice be regarding these two types of containers. They are both about 70mm in diameter and 30-50mm in height.

Which would you choose?



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