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Eating is an onerous chore rn
#26130138 - 08/10/19 06:38 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys. So I've bitched a little bit about my digestive problems here before and I am pretty sure I found out the main reasons I was having so much problems. The big thing being fat. Saturated or unsaturated, it doesn't matter, my body can't break down very much of it. So I'm consuming about half the recommended amount of fat per day that healthy people do (30g total) and for the most part I'm now avoiding crippling agony and considerations for hospital visits.
But it's SO hard to get enough calories when you aren't eating much fat or red meat. On a good day I eat all day and often still fall short of 2000 calories. But many days I'm just sick of fucking eating. And that's sad because I legit love food.
I started mixing nutrition drink packets in my coffees and that's helping some but the volume of food I'm eating on a good day is massive. And I don't think that's particularly good for my GI tract either, definitely not on a bad day.
I could really use some ideas on how to stuff low fat calories into my belly. Preferably low sugar too but I'd settle for just not insane amounts of sugar.
I've seriously considered eating baby food and high calorie gruel for chemo patients. This is a legit problem because, among other things, chronic calorie deficiencies makes you retarded. And that's a big reason I haven't been here very much. I don't really like being a retard. At least not that kind of retard.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26130145 - 08/10/19 06:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I did a fairly lengthy stint on antibiotics recently and it threw everything out of whack. I think I'm getting my microbes back together but I'm still afraid to eat large volumes of food because it was very unpleasant. And for right now eating my "good day" volumes of food just makes me feel nasty. I can't do it.
I also had an infection that tore my throat up pretty bad and since I'm prone to reflux I'm very wary of stuffing my belly full. My throat can't tolerate much more stomach acid.
My good days recently average about 1200 calories and there's been more than a few where I fall short of 900.
Which was about what I was getting when I became alarmingly under weight. And struggling not to pass out most of the time.
Like I said, legit problem.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26130372 - 08/10/19 09:02 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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i wouldn't know all i eat is chicken and pizza
for breakfast if i'm working i eat english muffin with peanut butter or a bannana
if my mom cooks it's broccoli, string beans, microwaved peas and carrots bread or rice whatever meat she chose or pasta
at work it's a chicken wrap with just cheese, a protein bar and a choco milk shake/bottle
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: CookieCrumbs] 2
#26130533 - 08/11/19 12:24 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've always found that I benefit, quite massively, from high doses of 'good' fat. Like salmon, nuts, etc. I eat a lot of salmon; 2-3x a day minimum.
Taking in enough water is a challenge, but doing so makes things better IME; I have a history of acid reflux.
Lots of green veg + oily fish + water has me in a pretty much perfect place though.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: CookieCrumbs] 1
#26131182 - 08/11/19 03:04 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cue vegan discussion
Good luck with your pain, hope you figure things out without killing your wallet
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: stzacrack] 1
#26131543 - 08/11/19 08:37 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oatmeal with lots of fruit mixed in the mornings can hold you over throughout the day. I usually throw in blueberries or blackberries into oatmeal in pretty heaping quantities, like half and half.
Cook up chicken breasts over drip pans in the oven and throw them on salads with spinach and whatnot. Use apple cider or red wine vinegar with the salad.
Plain white rice with chicken or fish and a vegetable is a pretty good staple diet that you can keep going for a while. Salmon has a lot of oil in it, but you can cook the majority of it off and the oil that's left is the kind you'll probably want a small bit of left in your diet anyway. I like to use lemon pepper with salmon a lot of the time, and just about any kind of sauce with chicken (teriyaki, barbecue, buffalo) but I avoid sauces they sell which have corn syrup as their primary ingredient, they often taste like garbage anyway, the sauces you use to cook with should be more vinegary/salty/spicy rather than some sugary flavor glaze.
For veggies I usually just get some broccoli and sautee it, but you chop up some broccoli and cook it on a cookie sheet. You can throw bell peppers in the oven too pretty easily with no need for oil.
Recipes like this one are easy and make plain rice more palatable for some people, though spam is really high in salt I'm not sure on the oil content:
Tuna packets are really good to just munch down. Those flavored ones are good. As long as they are not packaged in oil, tuna is really low in fats.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: PatrickKn]
#26140295 - 08/17/19 05:02 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't even think about cooking the fat out. Thanks.
I like salmon a lot but unfortunately haven't been able to eat much of it because farmed salmon is really fatty.
I eat a shit load of tuna until I get sick of it. I'm not sure it's necessarily good for me to eat tuna in the quantities I do sometimes.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26141762 - 08/18/19 04:32 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Have you considered that this could be a liver/bile issue? It's the liver that metabolises fat. I stressed out my liver a few years ago, and started to react badly to fat for a while. I'm no professional, but it could be worth looking into some liver detox methods. I did some liver flushing a while back, but not sure if you would tolerate that because it often involves consuming a large amount of oil to force a bile reaction in the liver.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: PocketLady] 1
#26142076 - 08/18/19 08:55 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good deductive skills. I know it's at least partially liver problems as I have drug induced hepatitis. I also had to have my gallbladder removed.
I'd rather not try to push it anytime soon but I appreciate the idea.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26143444 - 08/19/19 07:32 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
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On a good day I eat all day and often still fall short of 2000 calories.
I believe that RDA number is more arbitrary than we'd like to think. I know healthy people who eat one meal a day and are certainly not emaciated.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
#26143561 - 08/19/19 08:44 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Probably but everyone's needs are a little different.
I've been so hungry, genuinely starving, that I ate dog food. It was homemade dog food but still. I lost nearly 50 lbs. And I'm very sad to say some of that was muscle. Gained some back trying to hit that 2000 calorie goal. And I think that's why it's there, just to give you an idea of about what you should be getting. I despise counting my food but for right now I clearly need to. I was seriously alarmed the first time I did and realized just how few calories I was getting. 900 calories is like a single biscuit with sausage and gravy. My body has been telling me I needed more and I was so oblivious I thought I was maybe shorting myself on protein. The shit I've been eating seriously lacked caloric density.
I did one meal a day for a long time and I never felt so hungry while waiting all day to have a big plate of lasagna and buttered garlic bread.
Granted I'm not likely to metabolize anything as well as I used to or as well as healthy GI owners do.
Also worth considering that I may need that quantity because I used to get well over the RDA for a good portion of my life. People who lived on a more vegetable based diet probably have developed much more efficient energy production than I would have even if my organs were all present and functioning properly.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26144939 - 08/20/19 04:08 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ehat about almonds or peanuts for your fat?
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: XUL]
#26149755 - 08/23/19 03:47 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doesn't seem to make a difference where it comes from or how I space it out if I go over about 35g of fat it locks up my gi tract and my guts spasm so hard I pass nothing but blood.
That rather sucks and I'm gonna do my best to avoid it.
I also have another infection in my throat now and that's fucking me up more again. Really don't want to eat much when swallowing hurts.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26149884 - 08/23/19 05:28 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Um I know you aren't dumb so I'm sure this is obvious, uh passing blood is bad. Like really bad. Have you been to a doctor? What was your diagnosis?
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: bloodsheen]
#26149914 - 08/23/19 05:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep. IBS. Got antispasmodics which help some with the pain and bleeding but doesn't help get things moving or digesting like they should.
IBS is kinda a bullshit diagnosis. "Your bowels get upset." Alright , but why? "Don't worry about that part."
I was told repeatedly that removing my gallbladder should not change my diet. But the internet says I'm hardly the only one with post op issues.
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Re: Eating is an onerous chore rn [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26149938 - 08/23/19 06:02 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had no idea IBS could cause bleeding. That's awful and kinda blows my mind. I thought a little bit and all I can think of for calories with very little fat is a baked potato with fat-free sour cream and chicken breast spaghetti. That is quite a complicated dietary restriction that's for sure
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