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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Explaining psychedelics to the layperson [Re: CountHTML]
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McKenna was the ultimate bullshitter but yeah still worth listening to. The archetypal trickster. Just listening to him was mind expanding but in the end you had to take the leap yourself. All the psychedelic writing in the world won't compare to a couple grams. But it's a catch 22 - how do you get a reluctant person to try? Gotta quote some literature lol

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Re: Explaining psychedelics to the layperson [Re: bloodsheen]
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Bettering oneself is a noble pursuit. A lot of shadow work, though, I would argue, requires a lot of digging through the mud in ways which may be frowned upon according to traditional mores and folkways. A human being is always whole, nothing more, nothing less. Some people see and embrace all sides of themselves, some don't. I suppose one can be admired for truly embodying that wholeness without compromise and with poise, which we may recognize as courage, or which may or may not conform to our ideals of stoicism.

The downside of ideals is the fallibility of human judgment. Expecting perfection from a human being will lead nowhere; acknowledging one's own imperfection and that of others nonetheless leads one in the right direction (makes one humble and forgiving, for example).

Standards, ideals--these things are important, but they must be understood in context. Life is short, tragic, horrifying and beautiful. It is all ultimately a mandala, to be grasped lightly. Why not make music though?

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Re: Explaining psychedelics to the layperson [Re: CountHTML]
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OP, absolutely this happens.

Just let it go and let the person You are trying to convince be Themselves.

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Re: Explaining psychedelics to the layperson [Re: CountHTML]
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bloodsheen said:
You aren't helping Asante. We are trying to sound less extreme not more



CountHTML said:
At the risk of falling into in-group out-group thinking, I will say that I never try explaining psychedelics to a “layperson” because they simply won’t understand unless they’ve had the experience. The experience itself is unique to the individual with a few common themes and phenomena possibly universal to “the classic” psychedelic experience.

If someone is ignorant, lazy and lumpen enough to put psychedelics in the same category as heroin or crack, they’re likely temperamentally inclined to avoid or misunderstand the psychedelic experience, anyway. Things bewildering to the wise and humble are lost on the foolish and threatening to the prouder among us: Those with the most to lose.

We believe what we believe. This colors our reality, opinions, and views of others and their motivations. We’re all three-pound belief-engines on two legs. There is no changing anyone’s mind unless they are ready to change their own. The Gods of hyperspace could never pay me enough to be an evangelist, nor do I think they’d want me to be.





A very common theme im reading but really well put.

I agree that the psycheldelic experience is unique to the individual, and yes theres common "trippy" effects most people have heard of.

I suppose what i'm figuring out now that I enjoy so much about psycheldelics is the universal community you become a life long member of following such experiences. A commonality that you share with your peers that cant be explained easily unless talking to someone who gets it.

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Re: Explaining psychedelics to the layperson [Re: turkydust]
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I typically explain the effect as a lingering of sensation which makes movement, and by extension time, seem to expand. There is “more time” spent in each moment which allows for more in depth reflection of what is happening by virtue of richer experiencing of memory. There are personality changes, but the new thought forms arise from a more interconnected awareness of the self. People who are legitimately interested in my reasoning have always had at least one question to ask. If they’re not though, nothing you say will change anything.

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