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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: XUL]
    #26126553 - 08/08/19 09:49 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

There's always been poor people and 'low quality families if you wanna put it that way.

I don't think these mass shooters are from those demographics.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Morel Guy] * 2
    #26126566 - 08/08/19 10:04 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

If we make abortions easy to get and government-funded, that will reduce the amount of people raised by single/poor/reluctant parents.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Enlil]
    #26126568 - 08/08/19 10:04 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

That's actually THE MAIN reason why they say crime rates are at a all time low.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Kryptos]
    #26126571 - 08/08/19 10:07 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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"More guns means more gun violence"

So if we reduce the number of guns, this will automatically reduce gun violence?  I don't think so.




Well, I mean it worked literally everywhere else, so, there's no way it could ever work here.





What "worked literally everywhere else"?  Reducing the total number of guns isn't banning guns.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: qman]
    #26126591 - 08/08/19 10:20 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Found this interesting statistic: 81 mass shootings were done using legally bought guns. Only 16 were illegally bought, 14 were unknown:  https://www.statista.com/statistics/476461/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-legality-of-shooters-weapons/


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: qman] * 2
    #26126631 - 08/08/19 10:46 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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qman said:
"More guns means more gun violence"

So if we reduce the number of guns, this will automatically reduce gun violence?  I don't think so.




Well, I mean it worked literally everywhere else, so, there's no way it could ever work here.





What "worked literally everywhere else"?  Reducing the total number of guns isn't banning guns.




Reducing total number of guns through bans to reduce gun violence has worked everywhere else.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Kryptos]
    #26126672 - 08/08/19 11:23 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I'd bet money that these mass shooters are on SSRIs.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: XUL]
    #26126829 - 08/08/19 01:38 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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So I guess the more parents, the better.





not when both parents are immature and irresponsible, or worse.




More quality parents.





And of as many genders as possible. Preferably at least 5 parents of 3 genders.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Morel Guy] * 4
    #26126838 - 08/08/19 01:42 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

IDK how someone could say with a straight face that reducing the number of guns wouldn't reduce the amount of gun violence.  Unless by reducing one means reduce by two guns out of 100million or something stupid like that.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: relic]
    #26126844 - 08/08/19 01:50 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

How would you even reduce the number of guns?  What is circulating the market is already millions of firearms.

Buy backs are absolute shit and most gun owners would not go for that.

Making them illegal would just make millions of people criminals in one swoop and wouldn't do shit.

As soon as drugs are more legal I'm sure cartel will be stoked to supply guns instead if that's the new illegal & highly profitable item.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Herbologist]
    #26126860 - 08/08/19 02:17 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

A good machinist can make a firearm anyway.  I do recall a news program many years ago where a gang member had a machine shop made .45 machine gun.

If people in South East Asia with little education can make fire arms and other weapons, almost anyone can.  Smokeless gun powder and ammunition is more difficult.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26126864 - 08/08/19 02:19 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I could easily make a gun in my machine shop, I have said that many times over. In fact, I could make guns while I sleep, with CNC hardly any human interaction is even required. It would be a total waste of my machine time though, so I don't.

That said, I saw that sales of bullet proof backpacks are on the rise. That's what a booming economy feels like!


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: christopera]
    #26126870 - 08/08/19 02:21 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

America is like Colombia but even more terrorizing with less organized terrorists.

They make bullet proof everything in Colombia.  Probably could even get a tie that is bulletproof.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26126879 - 08/08/19 02:27 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

We should start offering would be terrorists and criminals opportunity.

Put some ads out soliciting people considering criminal acts, provide viable applicants either jobs or training/school.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: relic]
    #26126920 - 08/08/19 02:59 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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IDK how someone could say with a straight face that reducing the number of guns wouldn't reduce the amount of gun violence.  Unless by reducing one means reduce by two guns out of 100million or something stupid like that.




Would reducing 100 million guns in the US make any difference?  Most likely not, most of the gun violence is either self-inflicted or gang related.

The vast majority of gun owners don't engage in gun violence.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: qman]
    #26126926 - 08/08/19 03:02 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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  Most likely not, most of the gun violence is either ...... gang related.

The vast majority of gun owners don't engage in gun violence.




I highly doubt that.  Any statistics from a reliable source?


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26126927 - 08/08/19 03:04 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

You doubt that the vast majority of gun owners don't engage in gun violence?


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Enlil]
    #26126931 - 08/08/19 03:07 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I doubt that vast majority is 'gang' related.  There isn't even gangs so much anymore as clicks.

MS13 is more of a international criminal organization than a gang anymore.  Don't believe the hype either.

They say you are more likely to be murdered by someone you know.


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26126946 - 08/08/19 03:20 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Morel Guy said:
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  Most likely not, most of the gun violence is either ...... gang related.

The vast majority of gun owners don't engage in gun violence.




I highly doubt that.  Any statistics from a reliable source?





https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf

https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/176690986


"According to the Center of Disease Control (CDC), gang homicides accounted for roughly 8,900 of 11,000 gun murders in both 2010 and 2011"


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Re: Should we ban guys with no daddy from owning guns? [Re: qman]
    #26126955 - 08/08/19 03:27 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Gang isn't mentioned once in that CDC document.  Not once.


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