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pf tek questions
    #2612196 - 04/28/04 05:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

My friend was reading up on the pf tek and has a few questions regarding the tek. He is using eq strain in half pint jars, sterilizing with the pot and lid method.

1.When sterlizing the jars should the lid be tight or loose and how long would you boil the jars for?
2.How far up the side of the jar should the water be, ive heard half way and 1 third way?
3.After inoc should lid be on tight or loose and should tape be used on the four holes ?

thankx  for any help. :mushroom2:


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Re: pf tek questions [Re: sinsemillia]
    #2612209 - 04/28/04 05:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

>1.When sterlizing the jars should the lid be tight or loose and how long would you boil the jars for?
Leave them loose-about a 1/4 turn from tight,boil for 1-1 1/2 hours at a low boil usually Medium low
>2.How far up the side of the jar should the water be, ive heard half way and 1 third way?
I put it up about 1 inch on the jars,just dont put it up too high cause it will flow into your jars.Had that happen once.
>3.After inoc should lid be on tight or loose and should tape be used on the four holes ?
Tighten the lids down as soon as they cool down and put the tape on them just remove it before you innoculate and then put it back


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Re: pf tek questions [Re: sinsemillia]
    #2612211 - 04/28/04 05:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Here's how i did it, and i'm seeing growth so i guess i did it right...

1.I screw the lids on tight, don't want water getting in there. I don't strain to tighten the lids though.
2.Water should be halfway, if your steaming them like i did then you will have to add some water about every 20 minutes depending on how hot you have the stove set.
3. I didn't use tape, i used tinfoil to cover the tops. I actually used a combination of MMGG tek and PF tek for dummies.

hope that helps! :grin:


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Re: pf tek questions [Re: sinsemillia]
    #2612531 - 04/28/04 07:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Be sure to set something in the bottom of the pot before you steam your jars because the first time I did this a few of my jars cracked and I dont like spending money on more jars lol...
You can sit a sauce pan lid on the bottom of the large pot but what I do is you know those decorative pot covers you sit on top of the stove burners to cover them?? I took a nail and punched a lot of holes in the bottom of it so when it sits in the bottom of the pot water is able to come through it....heres a pic





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Re: pf tek questions [Re: Silverparrot]
    #2612538 - 04/28/04 07:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I just use a spaghetti strainer in a big pot, the strainer sits a few inches above the bottom of the first pot so it's not really touching. None of my jars crack or burn or anything when i do this. I've done this for 8 jars now and have had good results....


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Re: pf tek questions [Re: sinsemillia]
    #2612577 - 04/28/04 07:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

a rag on the bottom works fine to sace the jars from damage.
i don't see any reason for not putting the lid on tight. so go ahead and do it.
1.5hrs should do it. a little longer won't hurt
remember to cool fully. otherwise you waste spores time and money

half way up the jar with water should be fine. if it spills over, lower fire or remove water.
cover the holes with whatever, I used aluminum foil. then, before you noc em up, remove the foil. leave the foil off after that. your jars need to "breath". the point of the verm on top is to allow it to breath while minimizing contams


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Re: pf tek questions [Re: jux]
    #2612627 - 04/28/04 07:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Does water have to be touching the jars at all?

I have what looks like two medium pots in one, one with holes in the bottom for steam to flow through. So the water is NOT going to be touching the jars.

Also, would it be alright if I used more than 1 in. of water since it won't be touching the jars?

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Re: pf tek questions [Re: ShroomNoob03]
    #2613673 - 04/29/04 12:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: pf tek questions [Re: ShroomNoob03]
    #2614268 - 04/29/04 02:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

>Does water have to be touching the jars at all?

No, it doesn't. Just don't run the pot dry.


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