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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: koods]
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Thats true, which is XULs point, that slave-owners should pay more than the average citizen to make it fair and just.

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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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That’s true. Xul is the only one suggesting it.


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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I don't think all that many remnants of slave owners are rich today.  I could be very wrong.  It just seems that the civil war did a lot of damage to the wealth of that community.  They're still very bitter about that.

Wealth gained on the backs of other people was common in the north as well.  As it is today all be it a lot less dramatic.

The north exploited child labor and a lot of ethnic groups.


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy]
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There is institutional wealth that can easily be traced back to the value of slaves and their free labor


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: koods]
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Got that written out?  How many pages is that Congressional oversight report?

It would exceed the national debt.


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
I'm sure a lot of Trump's German family were Nazi's.

So why make a thing about that?




for someone going on about "evidence" as of late, that's a pretty wild accusation to make without any proof to support it.



so, in light of your recent attitudes.....proof of what you're "sure of".....?





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Morel Guy said:
The north exploited child labor and a lot of ethnic groups.



and taxed/tariffed the hell out of the south

Edited by Tulipslave (07/17/19 01:53 PM)

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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Tulipslave]
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You sound  :butthurt:

Ok, so Trump's ancestors in Germany weren't Nazi's.  That sounds totally plausible given the extreme unlikely nature of that.  Trump's allied with neo-nazi's and was pushed to ever so slightly condemn their actions.


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
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Morel Guy said:
You sound  :butthurt:

Ok, so Trump's ancestors in Germany weren't Nazi's.  That sounds totally plausible given the extreme unlikely nature of that.  Trump's allied with neo-nazi's and was pushed to ever so slightly condemn their actions.




no, i'm doing to you what you do to others when there isn't sufficient evidence (or any evidence at all provided) to support a claim.  yet, in your world, since you are making the claim, it must be acceptable to do so without proof.


why is it an "extreme unlikely nature" that Trump's ancestors were not Nazis?  Where is the proof that his ancestors were Nazis?  Trump's own actions have nothing to do with those of his former German relatives/ancestors.

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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy]
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It’s an area that includes modern Germany but also Austria and what’s sometimes called “Germania Slavica,” the eastern edge of the German medieval settlement in parts of the modern Czech Republic and Slovenia. Besides the Trump clan, this slice of Europe is the birthplace of Freud, Grimm’s fairy tales, the Nazi movement, schnitzel, pilsner beer and some of Europe’s great writers and musicians including Kafka, Dvorak and Mozart.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/travel/trump-family-roots-europe.html

Sounds likely that some second or third cousins were Nazi's.  My original argument was this is not a thing to politicize anymore than a rebuttal to invalidate claims that Beto or Harris had distant relatives that owned slaves.


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Tulipslave]
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Tulipslave said:
Morel Guy said:
You sound  :butthurt:

Ok, so Trump's ancestors in Germany weren't Nazi's.  That sounds totally plausible given the extreme unlikely nature of that.  Trump's allied with neo-nazi's and was pushed to ever so slightly condemn their actions.




no, i'm doing to you what you do to others when there isn't sufficient evidence (or any evidence at all provided) to support a claim.


why is it an "extreme unlikely nature" that Trump's ancestors were not Nazis?  Where is the proof that his ancestors were Nazis?  Trump's own actions have nothing to do with those of his former German relatives/ancestors.



A branch of family tree can get pretty large.  Ancestors don't mean what you are directly decent of.


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
Tulipslave said:
Morel Guy said:
You sound  :butthurt:

Ok, so Trump's ancestors in Germany weren't Nazi's.  That sounds totally plausible given the extreme unlikely nature of that.  Trump's allied with neo-nazi's and was pushed to ever so slightly condemn their actions.




no, i'm doing to you what you do to others when there isn't sufficient evidence (or any evidence at all provided) to support a claim.


why is it an "extreme unlikely nature" that Trump's ancestors were not Nazis?  Where is the proof that his ancestors were Nazis?  Trump's own actions have nothing to do with those of his former German relatives/ancestors.



A branch of family tree can get pretty large.  Ancestors don't mean what you are directly decent of.




got it, so no proof, and more BS being spewed from your fingers.

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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy]
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XUL was a Democrat and thus he owned slaves and was a racist. He said it, not me.

Let’s not forget, the revolutionary war was at least in part fought to preserve slavery. Those were the days...


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Tulipslave]
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Tulipslave said:
Morel Guy said:
Tulipslave said:
Morel Guy said:
You sound  :butthurt:

Ok, so Trump's ancestors in Germany weren't Nazi's.  That sounds totally plausible given the extreme unlikely nature of that.  Trump's allied with neo-nazi's and was pushed to ever so slightly condemn their actions.




no, i'm doing to you what you do to others when there isn't sufficient evidence (or any evidence at all provided) to support a claim.


why is it an "extreme unlikely nature" that Trump's ancestors were not Nazis?  Where is the proof that his ancestors were Nazis?  Trump's own actions have nothing to do with those of his former German relatives/ancestors.



A branch of family tree can get pretty large.  Ancestors don't mean what you are directly decent of.




got it, so no proof, and more BS being spewed from your fingers.



:fagface: You don't follow so well.

At all.


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy]
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Let me change ancestors to 'relations'.

I have a little bit of German but it's not likely at all to be in relation to Nazi's.  Why?  Because they were Amish.

Germans were crazy for Nazism.  Amish were not.  Germans were crazy for Nazism almost as much as Republicans put stock in Jesus and the Republican agenda.


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
Let me change ancestors to 'relations'.

I have a little bit of German but it's not likely at all to be in relation to Nazi's.  Why?  Because they were Amish.

Germans were crazy for Nazism.  Amish were not.  Germans were crazy for Nazism almost as much as Republicans put stock in Jesus and the Republican agenda.




you have no proof of your claim


get over it

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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Tulipslave]
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What do you mean no proof?  Proof Nazi Germany was everywhere in Germany is all over the place.

You have no proof Trump's relations didn't participate.  It's safer to assume that Germans were pro-Nazi than they were not pro-Nazi.

But you enjoy derailing threads by losing the points people were making.  By making up your own delusional requests.


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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
What do you mean no proof?  Proof Nazi Germany was everywhere in Germany is all over the place.

You have no proof Trump's relations didn't participate.  It's safer to assume that Germans were pro-Nazi than they were not pro-Nazi.

But you enjoy derailing threads by losing the points people were making.  By making up your own delusional requests.




you made a claim, you provide the proof.  you know how this works, dude.

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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Tulipslave]
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I did prove my point which is lost to your oblivious nature.

:70swhoa:


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Edited by Morel Guy (07/17/19 02:40 PM)

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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
I did prove my point which is lost to your oblivious nature.



:lol:


sure you did, sure you did

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Re: Beto's family owned slaves [Re: Tulipslave]
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Thanks!!

I know I did.  The issue is you deny and attack which is common Trumptopian methodology.


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