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OfflineFailboat
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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: Mouth Breather]
    #26110829 - 07/15/19 11:20 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

You cited varieties as strains.

You claim hpoo and straw are beneficial additions to grain when the consensus is the grain is more than enough nutrition.

You say "Fuck You" those who argue against your ignorance.

You claim potency is higher before the veil breaks,  and further that they are more potent before the spores drop. Potency is known to be a percentage of dry material based upon genetics.

You call those who argue agsinst your misinformation damned fools.

You said sugars in LC are best avoided, but then there's no energy source for the mycelium to consume which would thusly not produce a LC.

You claim slower colonization increases potency, but these are both controlled by genetics and not related.

You espouse fan drying without heat as a positive when it is ineffective and will never be adequate.

Need we continue, mouth breather? Don't forget to Use The Search Function. You should brush up on what everyone is doing these days and drop the attitude like your shit don't stink.


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OfflineChardRich
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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: Failboat]
    #26110879 - 07/16/19 12:09 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Good god, what have I started


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OfflineMouth Breather
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Registered: 07/07/19
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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: Failboat]
    #26110899 - 07/16/19 12:30 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I am devising.. a double blind experiment on as many of these qualifications as possible.

I assume you won't have a problem with me challenging myself, eh?

I will do my absolute best to keep an open mind and remove my bias.

I WILL READ THE LINKS PROVIDED IN SAID THREAD..

For the time being, try not to be arrogant and ignorant yourselves, eh?

Not being able to allow someone who misspoke to seek retribution seems to be counter to the values of psychedelics in general.

Therefore, let the testing commence and all debates cease.

After this study, all I ask is that Quirkmeister revise rating assessment, regardless of the conclusion.


Edited by Mouth Breather (07/16/19 12:37 AM)


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InvisibleHobbyist
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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: Mouth Breather] * 1
    #26111023 - 07/16/19 05:20 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Since you're upset about people not breaking down their responses to you line by line, I will do so.

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Mouth Breather said:
I am devising.. a double blind experiment on as many of these qualifications as possible.





Any experiment you could perform would be too small to matter.  Might wanna read up on what it takes to get meaningful scientific results.

It should be noted that the information people are trying to help you with is an amalgamation of anecdotal data which is all we have to go on, yet has had enough corroboration to be relevant and helpful.

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Mouth Breather said:
I assume you won't have a problem with me challenging myself, eh?





Not at all, that's how growth happens.

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Mouth Breather said:

I will do my absolute best to keep an open mind and remove my bias.





Also necessary for growth(one of the most common things of value people find in psychedelics, though psychedelics don't have "values" that people must follow like you seem to indicate later in your post)

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Mouth Breather said:

I WILL READ THE LINKS PROVIDED IN SAID THREAD..





That's why we provided them.

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Mouth Breather said:

For the time being, try not to be arrogant and ignorant yourselves, eh?




Nobody has been arrogant here.  You'll notice that MushBoy has the Trusted Cultivator tag.  Click on it and read up on it.  Perhaps before you come here and flaunt misinformation in response to someone's request for help, you could do some research to give good information. 

Do you recall your mother telling you, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"?  A similar rule might be, "If you don't know what you're talking about, don't make shit up,"

It's not that you simply didn't know the community here has made improvements upon the things you learned years ago because you mentioned that people will disagree, you simply lack the humility to learn those things before spouting off, or even to simply not respond to a thread with a question you don't know the answer to.

If you doubt Mushboys credentials, perhaps before judging him you could snoop through his post history and see if he knows what he's talking about and has the growing performance to be worthy of helping less experienced people. 

Nothing I saw posted in this thread was an actual attack on you, they simply rebutted the information you posted, defended themselves(FROM YOU, because you did attack people) and remarked upon your behavior.

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Mouth Breather said:
Not being able to allow someone who misspoke to seek retribution seems to be counter to the values of psychedelics in general.




ret·ri·bu·tion
noun
    punishment inflicted on someone as vengeance for a wrong or criminal act.


You desire to inflict punishment on us(the community here) as vengeance for pointing out that your "help" won't actually help the person who asked THE COMMUNITY for help?

While there are no universal values for psychedelics, if there were, I can say with fair certainty that vengeance wouldn't be one of them...

Telling us you seek retribution against us isn't likely to endear yourself to us.

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Mouth Breather said:
Therefore, let the testing commence and all debates cease.





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Mouth Breather said:
After this study, all I ask is that Quirkmeister revise rating assessment, regardless of the conclusion.




Why would he do that when you've stated a desire to inflict punishment upon him?...

The rating system is in place so that people can determine what level of trust to give to others.  Since we're all anonymous behind the curtain of the interweb, we need some social rating system to help and guide new people (and those that have been here) determine who to trust and so that people can determine whether to engage a volatile individual(like yourself) or simply let a potential argument lie.

The rating he gave you is well deserved, however if you'd actually like to be a part of this community, that growth we talked about earlier can start now.  You can repair your reputation here, but you'll need to learn some humility and kindness.  As it so happens, those are things many people find upon partaking in psychedelics. 

In closing, I wish you all the best and I sincerely hope you become a kind, knowledgeable, helpful, and valuable member of our community here.


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OfflineSubfinder
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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: Hobbyist]
    #26111036 - 07/16/19 05:38 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Your a good guy hobbyist!!

Yeah, we go through this with new members daily. Most of us lurked on here for years before posting just to avoid starting off on the wrong foot. This community is an unbelievable resource for information, genetics, and all kinds of other positive stuff. Where else can you openly talk about growing actives?

My advice is to take a step back, do some more reading and growing, take the ego down a notch, and go change that rating you gave quirkmeister. He's a very generous member, does giveaways and helps new growers realize success on a regular basis. You gave him his first ever bad rating?! Not cool


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InvisibleBph
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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: ChardRich]
    #26111297 - 07/16/19 09:26 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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ChardRich said:
Good god, what have I started



Hahah your bad.  :buzzaldrin:


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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: Bph]
    #26113148 - 07/17/19 04:23 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Not at all, he's just doing what many have.  I'd rather see people humbly reach out for help and have success in their endeavors then struggle, become frustrated and give up on their hobbies and passions.

It's not ChardRich's fault that this thread got off it's tracks.  In fact it's probably a good thing. With any luck it'll help another member grow and benefit him and the community.


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InvisibleBph
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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: Hobbyist]
    #26113188 - 07/17/19 05:11 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Just a little joke. I like to laugh. Even at other peoples expense and even if I'm the only one who thinks it's funny. 


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OfflineSadTurkey
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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: Mouth Breather]
    #26113289 - 07/17/19 06:56 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Mouth Breather said:
spore>lc>grain>sub




:failure:

Spores to LC, that shit must be bacterial as fuck.


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OfflineSubfinder
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Re: Mushrooms are not potent. Help me troubleshoot? [Re: Mouth Breather]
    #26113372 - 07/17/19 07:49 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Mouth Breather said:
I am devising.. a double blind experiment on as many of these qualifications as possible.

I assume you won't have a problem with me challenging myself, eh?

I will do my absolute best to keep an open mind and remove my bias.

I WILL READ THE LINKS PROVIDED IN SAID THREAD..

For the time being, try not to be arrogant and ignorant yourselves, eh?

Not being able to allow someone who misspoke to seek retribution seems to be counter to the values of psychedelics in general.

Therefore, let the testing commence and all debates cease.

After this study, all I ask is that Quirkmeister revise rating assessment, regardless of the conclusion.



That seems fair to me. Arguments are temporary, those ratings follow you.


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