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Barbi
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Re: Laptop - Mac vs PC? [Re: Evolving]
#2667875 - 05/12/04 08:23 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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mndfreeze said: There is nothing a MAC can do that a PC variant cannot. Its pointless to spend all that money just to be a mac zealot.
If you want to run viruses on your computer, Windblows wins hands down! Microsoft has created the very best platforms for hackers to exploit - GO MICROSOFT.
the discussion was PC vs MAC. not windows vs OSX. On a side note, anyone on any OS should be running virus software. Macs are not IMMUNE to it.
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Re: Laptop - Mac vs PC? [Re: Evolving]
#2668681 - 05/12/04 01:31 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey man, youre right: there are as much viruses for Windoze as no other OS. But think how dangerous they are! Most of them are stupid worms and such little bugs. Can you "root" the Windoze? Hmm I think linux wins that one I guess there are alot more root exploits for linux (and not only the kernel, but the apps for your linux), than for windoze, and Im not some security freak. And after you got the root shell, maan, its neat. While on the other side how do you manipulate the windows machine you've rooted, with CMD?  This also shows how linux is alot more flexible to manipulate remotely, as a server for example, when on Windows you have to install some shitty progs (legit trojans), so you can do shit, if you don't have direct access to that machine. Another option is to install cygwin , which is linux-ish. Linux rulez though.
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Mac ownz audio.
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Re: Laptop - Mac vs PC? [Re: Barbi]
#2671719 - 05/13/04 12:02 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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mndfreeze said: p.s. Things that a user actually cares about.
There are things a Sun e15k can do that an intel or mac proc cannot, but they dont really apply.
what a cop out. thats useful. for some people. i use both only because each has its good and its bad. tell you what you cant do on a PC is run PPC binarys without emulation, just like on a mac you can run x86 binarys without emulation. gay argument mac vs pc. both mac os and windows are lacking. i say use what ever you prefer and install linux
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Vats of Blood said: i think i decided on a mac powerbook:
? 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 with 64MB Graphics Memory ? 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 SO-DIMM ? 80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400 rpm ? SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) ? Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English ? AirPort Extreme Card ? Professional 15 Backpack Case by Brenthaven ? Rechargeable Battery - 15-inch Aluminum PowerBook G4 ? 15.2-inch TFT Display Subtotal $3,195.00
is this worth all the extra money? i could get a really kickass pc laptop for much much cheaper...i just want to make sure that i'm not wasting 1-2 thousand dollars.
Vats, do you really need that configuration? I just did a comparison between a Titanium Powerbook and a G4 iBook, and I opted for the G4 iBook...
G4 1.0 Ghz 60 GByte HD 640 MByte Ram 14" screen Combo Drive
...and the whole thing will cost me under $1,500 USD
They had a model with a Superdrive which would have boosted me up to $1,750 USD, but I didn't need it.
You'll have to ask Seuss, as the bus speed might be less on the iBook G4, but after carefull consideration of my own needs, I decided to that for a thousand dollars less, I could get an iBook G4, which would be more than fine for my needs. I just wouldn't get the wider screen ratio and the shiney titanium case...
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Re: Laptop - Mac vs PC? [Re: Papaver]
#2673201 - 05/13/04 11:09 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Laptop - Mac vs PC? [Re: Barbi]
#2674304 - 05/13/04 03:33 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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the only reason i went for a intel laptop against the mac was because of the new centrino mobile technology (pentium M processor)...wayyy more battery life than the mac, almost double. And the performance of the pentium M processor is revolutionary....chk it out at anadtech if you so desire.
IMHO if you have to buy a laptop get ONE that can stay away from the power outlet as long as possible.
And all the audio softwares have Pc equivalent so that is nothing to worry about....If you desire extreme audio performance get a separate PCMICA audio card, or even the Creative extigy (external usb sound) cheap and good, but a little heavy on batteries.
But one thing remains The Macs are engineering masterpieces true blue quality
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Re: Laptop - Mac vs PC? [Re: T0aD]
#2675995 - 05/13/04 09:33 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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you mean expensive ware
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Seuss
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> wayyy more battery life than the mac
The G4's are getting around 6-hours per charge, new. About 4 hours if you are watching a movie or using the optical drive constantly.
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Barbi
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Re: Laptop - Mac vs PC? [Re: T0aD]
#2677400 - 05/14/04 10:12 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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T0aD said: hey man, youre right: there are as much viruses for Windoze as no other OS. But think how dangerous they are! Most of them are stupid worms and such little bugs. Can you "root" the Windoze? Hmm I think linux wins that one I guess there are alot more root exploits for linux (and not only the kernel, but the apps for your linux), than for windoze, and Im not some security freak. And after you got the root shell, maan, its neat. While on the other side how do you manipulate the windows machine you've rooted, with CMD?  This also shows how linux is alot more flexible to manipulate remotely, as a server for example, when on Windows you have to install some shitty progs (legit trojans), so you can do shit, if you don't have direct access to that machine. Another option is to install cygwin , which is linux-ish. Linux rulez though.
most "virus's" for windows that float around are payloaded with security exploits that effectivly 'ROOT' your windows machine. Silly. Linux is by far more superior security wise then windows has EVER been.
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Re: Laptop - Mac vs PC? [Re: Barbi]
#2677471 - 05/14/04 10:40 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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> Linux is by far more superior security wise then windows has EVER been.
I gotta agree with you there. Pretty much any Unix flavored OS is more secure than windows will ever be. Windows was designed as a single user OS without any security in mind. Although Mirco$oft has managed to shoehorn multiuser support into their design, it is a kludge at best. How that piece of junk software company every became a monopoly I will never understand.
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