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 Baby_Hitler
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 Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertarian. 
#2609166 - 04/27/04 10:26 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html
Take the poll and find out that you're a libertarian. 
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Edited by Baby_Hitler (04/27/04 10:29 PM)
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 phi1618
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 Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2609218 - 04/27/04 10:35 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, I'll be damned. Last time I took that, I was right on the left/libertarian border, all the way at the edge. Now, I'm one space into left-liberal.
I said no to repealing the minimum wage, repealing all taxes, and eliminating all government foreign aid, yes to everything else.
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertarian. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2609378 - 04/27/04 11:10 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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General question. By borders, do they mean national borders or state borders?
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2610212 - 04/28/04 01:42 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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My response to all of the questions is "smash the system". What does that make me?
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2610344 - 04/28/04 02:17 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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I advocate self-government for personal issues, and Gov't intervention in economic issues, making me a "left liberal", according to the site. That's interesting, though, as I alway thought I was more a centrist.
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: Learyfan]
#2610394 - 04/28/04 02:44 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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Either Libertarian or terrorist.
So you want to destroy the government?
Does that include getting rid of welfare, socialized medicine, Minnimum wage, farm subsidies, etc...?
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertarian. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2610457 - 04/28/04 03:49 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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im left-liberal. phew.
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: Learyfan]
#2610500 - 04/28/04 04:48 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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What does that make me?
"Special".
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertarian. [Re: GazzBut]
#2610501 - 04/28/04 04:49 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
GazzBut said:
im left-liberal. phew.
But how can that be? 
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertarian. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2610509 - 04/28/04 04:54 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertarian. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#2612408 - 04/28/04 04:52 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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I seem to be a left-liberal too. Maybe I should take this test when I'm not wasted and can actually think about it some more
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
#2612450 - 04/28/04 05:07 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your Personal Self-Government Score is 50%.
Your Economic Self-Government Score is 50%.
Scores falling on the centrist border are counted as centrist.
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Every single one of these tests puts me dead center in the middle. I have taken 4 or 5 of them and I'm always at 0,0.
I would agree with that as I believe in a perfect balance between freedom and authority, but in the real world that puts me on the right. Prob. the John McCain right, but by being a centrist I end up being a conservative.
Sorry libertarians.
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2612467 - 04/28/04 05:10 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: silversoul7]
#2612486 - 04/28/04 05:14 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm surprised to see we are so close. The only question I voted no on was this one......
"People should be free to come and go across borders; to live and work where they choose."
and I only voted no on that because I don't believe people should be allowed to cross the border at will into this country.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: silversoul7]
#2612497 - 04/28/04 05:16 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was a bit put off by the "end taxes" question. I don't want to end all taxes, but I think that the land value tax should be the only tax. But I put yes anyway.
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#2612598 - 04/28/04 05:45 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
luvdemshrooms said:
The only question I voted no on was this one......
"People should be free to come and go across borders; to live and work where they choose."
and I only voted no on that because I don't believe people should be allowed to cross the border at will into this country.
I voted the same way. Until the welfare state is dismantled and the governments stop giving handouts to whoever crosses the border and squeezes out an infant on American soil, I cannot support open borders.
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: Evolving]
#2612673 - 04/28/04 06:03 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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While I see your reasoning, I'm not sure I would ever support open borders.
Unless everyone suddenly becomes..... "nice".
As for the "squeezing", merely being born in this country should not automatically make you a citizen. Unless of course one or both of the parents are already citizens.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2612844 - 04/28/04 06:39 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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Right on the border b/w left-liberal and libertarian. Thats what i figured.
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: phi1618]
#2612915 - 04/28/04 06:59 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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I said no to repealing the minimum wage
That answer alone probably pushes you fairly far to the left.
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Re: Is anyone here unaware that they are in fact a libertari [Re: grib]
#2612920 - 04/28/04 07:01 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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grib said:
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I said no to repealing the minimum wage
That answer alone probably pushes you fairly far to the left.
Not by America's standards. I dare you to find even one Senator or Representative in the U.S. who supports repealing minimum wage.
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