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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26103 - 07/29/00 11:49 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Hi beowulf I am not a hypocrate, but I agree and disagree with you. I am seventeen, the first time I used LSD was five days before my eleventh birthday. I took a single blotter hit with two friends who were fourteen and fifthteen years old. I didn't learn the ture power of mind altering substances until I was fourteen. I ordered a quarter ounce of Copelandia Cyanescens over the internet from Amazing Nature. When I recieved them about three weeks later I noticed they were not like the mushrooms I was use to. There were a lot of tiny to small caps and long skinny stem, but there was also one huge freak of a mushroom with its stem and cap still intact. The next day in the afternoon I decided to eat them. I put the whole quarter on a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich and chased it down with apple juice, not a good combination. In 15 minutes i was laughing uncontrolably the next thing I remember was lying on my bed with my eyes closed i felt a cool breeze on my body that seemed to flow through my head. I had to piss but I didn't know and all of a sudden i started pissing my pants and i remember the sensation was so awful i screamed and then i began to puke up all the of what i had eaten. the puke came out my nose and everything and i was so intoxicated i thought i was digging because i couldn't even control by bladder. i just remember putting over and over again while i was completely tripping i thought i was in hell where i would remain for eternity in this altered state of mind continously vomiting it was the most horrible thing i have ever experienced. i was totally hallucinating and peeking while i was puking. a little bit later i was out side of my body for a while watching my self on the bed thrash in agony. i was back inside of my self and hallucinating incredibly hard. my whole reality melted away and these torturous hallucinations did not end for 5 hours and when i finally came to i was incredibly confused. it took me weeks to fully grasp what i had experienced. day to day i would have unclear memories until it all came together and i remember the whole experience cleary months later.

the point of this post is that i don't think kids that age under stand the power of these substances and they are trying to get some cool visuals and in most cases they will take to many and never touch them again. in other cases they will take to many and realize for them selfs how powerful and important they are. another point i wanted to make is that it doesn't matter how old you are until you have had a mind blowingly intense trip like the one i just discribed you can not appreciate fully the power of the mushrooms. so it doesn't matter if you are 30 or 13 unless you have actually consumed a large dose and lived to tell about it you do not know what you are dealing with.



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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26105 - 07/30/00 02:47 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Just because your young dosent always mean that you dont appreciate them or understand them. Im 16 and i appreciate and understand them perfectly. That kid will soon have a much better understanding of them later after he has done them a few times. Im sure that all of you were looking for some "awesome visuals dude" at one point in your lives.


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26106 - 07/30/00 03:07 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I am 15. Not all 15 years old are dumb you know. You sounded like you called me dumb. I understand about shrooms. I am not a moron. And I think shrooms are really fun to do. But that doesn't mean I just want to get high. And I only do mushrooms and weed. Now if you could kindly tell me what I don't understand, then do so. Just because most young people know dick all about drugs, doesn't mean there isn't a few exceptions. And don't tell me that just because one is old. They will do drugs responsible, and know about them. That would just be a lie.


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26107 - 07/30/00 03:49 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

You'd be an idiot for doing shrooms -- or any drugs -- at 13. Actually, you'd be a 13 year old. At 13, you aren't ready for the experience mentally -- there is no possible way, even though you can yell about it until you're green. Even if you *were*, you brain and body are still in development. You can screw things up a lot more when you're 13 than when you're 25. Why ruin the years ahead to get some simple pleasures while you are younger? I can see no point in doing drugs at that age. And doing acid two weeks before you 11th birthday? Where the hell were your parents to make sure you weren't doing things like that before you were even eleven years old. I'm 17 and have yet to do psychedelics. I'm smoked a few times in the past two years, times I can count on two hands. I'm heading off to college in a couple weeks and I'm going to experiment then. It's safer, easier, and the results will ultimately be more rewarding.

Just wait! -- For god's sake, at least until two weeks before you turn 13 and half.

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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26108 - 07/30/00 04:23 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Originally posted by rousseau:
You'd be an idiot for doing shrooms -- or any drugs -- at 13. Actually, you'd be a 13 year old. At 13, you aren't ready for the experience mentally -- there is no possible way, even though you can yell about it until you're green. Even if you *were*, you brain and body are still in development. You can screw things up a lot more when you're 13 than when you're 25. Why ruin the years ahead to get some simple pleasures while you are younger? I can see no point in doing drugs at that age. And doing acid two weeks before you 11th birthday? Where the hell were your parents to make sure you weren't doing things like that before you were even eleven years old. I'm 17 and have yet to do psychedelics. I'm smoked a few times in the past two years, times I can count on two hands. I'm heading off to college in a couple weeks and I'm going to experiment then. It's safer, easier, and the results will ultimately be more rewarding.

Just wait! -- For god's sake, at least until two weeks before you turn 13 and half.

>R


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you read(sound) like a narc or a pig to me. I'm not saying yeah 13yr olds eat all the mushrooms you want they can't hurt you, but you cant just judge people by their age. I'm sure there's plenty of people who did mushrooms at 13 who are happy and/or greatfull of those expierinces and would do it again if given the chance.

You gotta look at it person by person.


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26109 - 07/30/00 09:01 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

he he chillin i hear you but narc is a harsh word although i understand what you mean. roussea is making it sound like if you experiment with psychedelics in your early teen years you will ruin your life and that sounds like government propaganda. roussea you have never done psychedelic mushrooms are you truly can not understand the power the have until you have experienced it first hand. if you eat a high dose of potent mushrooms like copelandia cyanescens it is going to mix up your thoughts whether you are 15 or 30.

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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26110 - 07/30/00 09:48 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

don't have sex before marriage....... :wink:

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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26111 - 07/30/00 10:06 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I am 16. Me and my friends arent quite sitting on mountain tops meditating, but we do shrooms for something more than cool visuals. I consider myself to have a reasonable understanding, however I dont think i could have coped when I was 13. You are still growing up, and finding out who you are, you're in no position to start questioning reality. My most valuabkle experiences are owed to shrooms, but I think they should be respected, and taken with due consideration, which is perhaps less likely the younger you are?
But I'm not being holier than thou, I'm sure people consider me too young, and I'm sure some 13 yr olds are ready.


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26112 - 07/30/00 10:30 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

when i was 15 i thought i knew a lot. asa i grew up, however, i realized that there was still a lot to go. im 20. and if i look back at the things i did, i think that for many of them i should have waited. i did not did any psychedelic when i was that age, in fact i did my first hit of acid when i was 19. and shrooms too. :biggrin:

well the thing is that i dont believe that one should start exploring THOSE parts of the mind at that young age. you are still messing around with the problems of puberty and pubic hair to start messing with your inner YOU. :smile:

cool visuals, yeah is fun. but you realize that there is something else beside those visuals. there is actually a learning experience, which can be enlightening (i hope yours are/were) or scarying). you dont know which you will have until is the time, unfortunately.

if you wanna get messed up go and do it. i wont stop you. but youll see later if it was worth it or not... hope it was.. :biggrin:

but remember that the reason most substances are regulated today is because kids (and adults too) used them irresponsably. :frown:

that said if you are young i would recomend weed :biggrin: weed is good :biggrin:

well that was me and my $.02

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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26113 - 07/30/00 10:36 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I got the reaction from the youngies I was expecting. After all, you all know everything at that age. (The fact is, you don't understand jack squat about much, yet) This doesn't render to the fact that you are bad or stupid, just ignorant and inexperienced. For those of you youngins' puffing up right now and feeling like you're the exception to this, I'm especially talking to you! It doesn't prove to be incredibly gratuitous to feel like you are wise at that age. The key to wisdom for all of us, especially you...is comprehending our own ignorance.


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26114 - 07/30/00 01:12 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I did shrooms first when i was 16 as well. i had researched them and everything for about two months. i then decided to grow my own for a more spiritual trip. I ate more than a first timer should. i had a level 5 and it was not fun. Thinking you made up your life and that you are not real is not fun. I learned from it though. I take shrooms ussually by myself and just meditate and be peaceful. I dont think i was to young, as long as you do it responsibly.


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26115 - 07/30/00 05:43 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

There are tons of stupid people out there....young and old. If you try to label someone by their age you are just and idiot. Even though a lot of you people are stupid and think they know everything doesn't mean we are all like that. I am 16 years old and I don't know everything but I at least respect drugs and the experience that comes with them. I smoked weed for the first time when I was 13. I did mushrooms for the first time when I was 15. The first time I did them I had grown them myself and I shared with my parents. My parent are very cool people and we smoke together all the time. They know I wouldn't be stupid and take a huge dose or do heroin or anything. Young people always get a bad name. Kinda like people who do shrooms.

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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26116 - 07/30/00 07:04 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

uh oh! I am just AND idiot!


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26117 - 07/30/00 10:12 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I think the only really important thing is the reason you are doing a drug, not the age at which you do it. Just look at the original native peoples tribes of north and south america (or anywhere else for that matter). They did drugs in the practice of their religion for goodness sakes. I don't think searching for answers to life's questions should be reserved for those that happen to be past a certain chronological age. Come on, should people be driving at 16? Should people not be allowed to have sex until they're 18? That's something best left to the government to try to sell people, not me.

I will agree however that there are probably a lot of "shroomin kiddies" out there who just do drugs for kicks. How the fuck can you take GHB or that ketomine stuff and say you know what you're doing? That's just some kind of lame abuse. Drugs are for learning and being well, not for running away from stuff. Cool, i'm an after school special. :wink:
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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26118 - 07/30/00 11:05 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sean1234:

roussea is making it sound like if you experiment with psychedelics in your early teen years you will ruin your life and that sounds like government propaganda.

Call it whatever you want, but doing drugs at 13 is no good thing, whether they be legal or not. It's not government propaganda, dummy, it's common sense. It won't ruin your life (probably), but it's not a good idea.

roussea you have never done psychedelic mushrooms are you truly can not understand the power the have until you have experienced it first hand.

You are right, I have never. I cannot *truly* understand their power until I've done them myself. But neither can a 13 year old. A 13 year old is a 13 year old is a 13 year old and there are very few exceptions. I don't claim that I am ready for it either; maybe I am, maybe I'm not. That's something that I will have to find out. Sure, some 13 year olds should *really* be in 9th grade and not 8th grade. Or they can make their own web page and make a few grand a month. Sure. But why should a 13 year old attempt to understand drugs? A 13 year old shouldn't be thinking about smoking pot, much less doing psychedelic drugs! A 13 year old has much more important things to be concerned with -- like being a 13 year old. There are certain things that are for adults that children shouldn't been involved with -- drugs, pornography, HBO. There are things that are not for 13 year olds. This is why drugs continue to be illegal, because young kids use them and sometimes abuse them (not the only reason...). I'm not saying that once you turn 18, you're a mature adult -- no, you're a legal adult. By then it's too late if you're already screwed up. Go ahead and do whatever you want. But man, 10 year olds taking acid -- *that* should be illegal.


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26119 - 07/30/00 11:11 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yeah, and doing drugs with your parents.... That's great to hear.


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26120 - 07/30/00 11:30 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Doing drugs at an early age is a very bad thing to do. When you are younger the world is a different place. The reason many older people do drugs is to bring back the fun into their life. You need to let your mind develope before doing drugs. I don't think that you need to be older to appreciate them but you shouldn't do any type of drug before your mind is developed enough. When you are a little kid you should do little kid things. Thats all that needs to be said.


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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26123 - 07/31/00 01:59 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by games:

I wish I had had parents like that. For teens who are so inclined, it can save them WORLDS of trouble to learn from someone with experience that ISNT after their money.

But that is not the role of the parent.
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Also... what's the point to your rant about minors doing drugs? Do you think it should be stopped? it's been tried. Curious teens are going to try psychadelics whether we want them to or not.
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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26124 - 07/31/00 02:30 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

ok, far be it from me to call all young individuals ignorant and incapable of grasping higher concepts; but the thing is, being an ADULT, you could hardly call us "adults" responsible if we condone the use of hallucinogens at such a young age. The law of averages teaches us that the MAJORITY of youngsters simply aren't ready. If; in the unlikely event that you ARE ready, (smart as you are; and clearly understanding far more than us ignorant adults. . . )you might then understand that it would be far wiser to wait to use such mind-altering chemicals.

All said and done, if you are as mature as you profess. . you'd understand the intelligence and maturity in making the decision that at your young age, it is far wiser to delay gratification, than to do otherwise.

If your ultimate decision is to do these things against the wishes of so many adults who through EXPERIENCE advise you NOT to, then perhaps you're not as mature as you give yourself credit for being. . .

Make the mature decision, and WAIT!!

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Re: Shroomin kiddies
    #26125 - 07/31/00 04:26 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I am going to keep this post short. Native America religious groups have child eating peyote at age 8, our "modern" society is the reason some of you believe children are not ready for psychedelics but for some reason older people are.


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