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ThePoopTree
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"Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties.
#26099605 - 07/10/19 04:26 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Back in the day, I grew B+ and PE with great success. B+ is a no-brainer for me, but I'd like to do something slightly different this time around.
Looking through [Popular Spore Vendor].com, I'm seeing a lot more choices than there used to be, but I'm wondering how much of it really is different.
For example, "Z Strain" has a pretty enticing description...
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Very Rizomorphic mycelium seems to isolate itself and aggressive colonizer. One of the fastest strains from inoculation to harvests I've seen. Prolific fruiter with little to no recovery time between flushes!
...but the picture just looks like B+ to me.
I kinda wanna get it anyway, along with the others in the title. What do y'all think?
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Mateja


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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: ThePoopTree]
#26099626 - 07/10/19 05:19 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Potato, Tomato, B+, Z+, iPhone 10+
Its still the same tropical species of magic mushrooms called Psilocybe Cubensis. It contains Cubensis related levels of actives, myc colonizes outwards, fruits grow upwards and contamination grows spontaneously on the substrates.
I could for 2xample name my Maltese puppies 'z strain' 'brown wingman' 'white and black spottet wingman' 'the littlest brown one who didn't look like he was gonna make it initially'..... doesn't matter what I call them they're still exactly like their mom, a Maltese four legged entertainment/company mammal.
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ThePoopTree
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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: Mateja]
#26099633 - 07/10/19 05:29 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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See, that's my thinking too. But for example, PE is substantially different than B+... so I honestly wonder about some of these others. I don't see anyone posting about them at all, so just curious.
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k5hd2y
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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: Mateja]
#26099634 - 07/10/19 05:30 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know right. they basically are the same. All in the family. I totally agree. If i was shopping, I would go for a stone producer or some wood love! Probably both...
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k5hd2y
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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: ThePoopTree]
#26099638 - 07/10/19 05:32 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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ThePoopTree said: See, that's my thinking too. But for example, PE is substantially different than B+... so I honestly wonder about some of these others. I don't see anyone posting about them at all, so just curious.
Yes imo which isn't worth much... there's pe, albinos, and everything else in the cube family. They stand out!
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Mateja


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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: ThePoopTree]
#26099647 - 07/10/19 05:45 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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ThePoopTree said: for example, PE is substantially different than B+...
They both require same Temps, oxygen, nutrient levels.. They're both cubes with regular cubey properties. I wonder what is really different about the two varieties that would make you say they're substantially different? 🤔
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ThePoopTree
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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: Mateja]
#26099686 - 07/10/19 06:17 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Their size, shape, colonization times, growing patterns... some would say potency (but I'm not convinced there)
I mean we're obviously not talking a species-level difference here, but they are so clearly different that no one has a problem telling them apart from B+
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SadTurkey
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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: ThePoopTree]
#26099714 - 07/10/19 06:37 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's very easy to engineer a variety that looks different, in the same way that you could easily breed a pasture of black sheep by only crossing black sheeps. It's much harder to engineer a variety that differs significantly on other biological factors, such as potency, growth or size, just like it's much harder to do so in sheep. That's why just about every variety is nothing more than a differently coloured cubensis.
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Mateja


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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: ThePoopTree]
#26099719 - 07/10/19 06:44 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Like. My Maltese puppies, all siblings but still very easy to tell apart. But they all drink milk, poop and pee and need shelter and food. So what is really the difference except the appearance?
Sometimes I notice pe grows slower sometimes faster, depending on the colony youre working with. And also I've probably noticed more variety within the pe variety than between the other varieties (if that doesn't sound confusing enough)
Let me rephrase, an albino variety will of course always be distinct from the other varieties, but nothing else 3xcept it's appearance makes it 'substantially' different. They may be a tad quicker or slower, but then again I believe there's as much difference within different colonies within the same varietie as it 8s difference between different varieties
I get what you're saying, they do look distinct but I have yet to hear about a cube variety that's so different from the other varieties that it stands out In. More ways than just color, size and shape. But then again it's a mushroom itll always come in a color, size and shape depending on how you grow it
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ThePoopTree
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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: Mateja]
#26099723 - 07/10/19 06:45 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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To put it differently, why did the community settle on B+ instead of, say, F+?
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NWTripper
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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: ThePoopTree]
#26099737 - 07/10/19 06:57 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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So, the only real difference between strains is the phenotype. How fast they grow and stuff is mostly about environment aand substrate.
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badmojo420
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Re: "Z Strain" "F+" "Redboy" - so many different varieties. [Re: NWTripper]
#26099757 - 07/10/19 07:13 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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from what i understand a cube is a cube and the names/varieties are just names given to signify the person who found the variety or the location it was found in.
example thai pink buffalo is called pink buffalo because it was originally found in thailand in a field where they farm albino buffalos. whether that is true or not i have no idea... its what ive read somewhere and seems like it makes sense though. at least in that instance. may not be true for all varieties i suppose.
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