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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: TeaforTwo]
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Badsponge,

When I get home, I'll remove the fruit from the desiccant box and put it in the paper bag with the growing pile of shrooms.  Then I will harvest the next batch.  Thanks.


TeaforTwo,

Due to the contamination, I've been advised to harvest this flush and then dump the substrate.  But the rate at which the substrate is pumping out fruit is turning me into a greedy goblin and I'm tempted to dunk the substrate and try for more flushes.


Guys,

Despite the contamination that I'm continuing to remove, as long as the substrate is producing healthy fruit, is there any harm in dunking it and going for more flushes?

And do you all agree that it's fine to set my dehydrator to 160 degrees?


Thanks.

Edited by tomcards (10/04/19 12:15 PM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: tomcards]
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trying to dunk a substrate with sporulating green mold is just going to spread it around, and ime trying to dunk a sub with any lvl of contams seems to make the problem worse.

Plus i really doubt the next wave of fruits is gonna get nearly finished before the mold takes over. I don't keep a tub around when it shows mold unless there's already some healthy established pins.


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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: tomcards]
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Max the dehydrator temp: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=25956230&fpart=&PHPSESSID=

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: tomcards]
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I have no experience, so not sure best step forward on dunk and flush out some more flesh, but.... I would do it, unless the contam proved to be nasty to entire grow space.

about the dehydrator, good (and crucial, imo) purchase! I have a nesco and always run it max temp (160F), for 24hrs minimum (unless it is very small amount), regardless go until 'cracker dry'. further forum reading has convinced me to put biggest fruits on top shelf and test dryness of those, I had not done that intentionally in the past.

High heat like this will not harm potency, ime, but improper storage of less than totally dry shrooms will have negative effects.


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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: TeaforTwo]
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TeaforTwo said:
I have no experience, so not sure best step forward on dunk and flush out some more flesh, but.... I would do it, unless the contam proved to be nasty to entire grow space.

about the dehydrator, good (and crucial, imo) purchase! I have a nesco and always run it max temp (160F), for 24hrs minimum (unless it is very small amount), regardless go until 'cracker dry'. further forum reading has convinced me to put biggest fruits on top shelf and test dryness of those, I had not done that intentionally in the past.

High heat like this will not harm potency, ime, but improper storage of less than totally dry shrooms will have negative effects.


Dude it has trich all over :lol:


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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: LtLurker]
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LtLurker said:
trying to dunk a substrate with sporulating green mold is just going to spread it around, and ime trying to dunk a sub with any lvl of contams seems to make the problem worse.

Plus i really doubt the next wave of fruits is gonna get nearly finished before the mold takes over. I don't keep a tub around when it shows mold unless there's already some healthy established pins.


I'm usually a "give it a shot and see what happens" kind of guy, but I agree with Lurker here. Dunking is gonna spread that shit around. Depending on how badly it blooms from there it's not beyond the realm of possibility to say that it could impact a future grow. (More spores floating around your place = more potential for future contam). The juice isn't worth the squeeze imho.


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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: ChardRich]
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hey ChardRich, yah, as mentioned ima nooob so not even close to smart on any contam, but if trich then dump it is better than potential infect all grow space for a few more fruits.

If it was my only tub going, and I was still not see the spots grow larger than those pics from over week ago, then I'd probably soak the sub and go for second flush (and end up bleaching the chit out of my grow space for a week afterwards lol)...

OP already pulled off something not expected, so... :shrug:


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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: LtLurker]
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Yeah okay :wink:


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Edited by Spiritualscience (10/10/19 12:43 AM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: Spiritualscience]
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That's not 5 oz you tool


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Edited by ChardRich (10/04/19 07:32 PM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: badsponge]
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Perhaps you would like to share something specific that I said that was "full of shit."

I had a tub with seven flushes and zero contaminants. I have eaten well over 40 grams and still have 4.5 ounces left. I am harvesting my tub again now on its first flush. No one accidentally does that. People have been growing with spores for many years. You may have a higher success rate with agar but that does not make growing with spores an accident.

You said, "All three of us are telling you the same thing and spiritual is telling you pretty much completely different." That is another generalization that is simply not true. The only thing different I have said is that it may not be trich. Perhaps you should read a little more carefully.


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Edited by Spiritualscience (10/10/19 12:47 AM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: Spiritualscience]
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All you do is brag and boast about one spawn bag with bacteria you managed to get some half ass flushes with.

If that is truly 5 ounces, show us with them on the scale big boy :smile:

You write a lot for someone who knows so little.

Dehydrators are superior to any other drying methods, ask any experienced cultivators on here you ignorant moron.


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Edited by ChardRich (10/04/19 07:17 PM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: ChardRich]
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Actually it is. I can cram three ounces in large jars. They get broken up but I grind them to powder and put them in cranberry juice right before consumption anyway.


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Edited by Spiritualscience (10/04/19 11:11 PM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: Spiritualscience]
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Quote:
Spiritualscience said: in my desiccant container 


aaand that's where you fucked up. desiccant chamber? Your shit isn't dry, you're weighing water :rofl:

That picture is no where near 5 oz. more like 2-3oz at best, which for a full mono is what you should get from a single flush or 2. Get a dehydrator. Stop acting like a know it all. Seriously you're on some asshole shit right now talking about how does and doesn't give good advice, what is and isn't good practice, but you obviously barely have a clue what you're doing for yourself.


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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: Spiritualscience]
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Spiritualscience said:
Yes it is you cocksucking bitch.


Oh shit he real mad. Would Jesus approve of this language sir?

What part of the bible said "Thou is a cocksucking bitch"..?


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Edited by ChardRich (10/04/19 07:21 PM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: LtLurker]
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After fan drying shrooms, any good desiccant will get them cracker dry, if you use enough of it.


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Edited by Spiritualscience (10/10/19 12:48 AM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: ChardRich]
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:lmafo:

Probably not


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Edited by Spiritualscience (10/05/19 01:10 AM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: Spiritualscience]
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Maybe you should learn how to grow mushrooms instead of name calling


:firecum:


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Edited by ChardRich (10/04/19 07:32 PM)

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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: Spiritualscience]
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fan and desiccant is the worst way you could attempt to dry your shrooms dumbass. Nobody on shroomery would agree with what you just said. Not only are they not dry, but they're losing potency. Again, you have no fuckin clue what you're talking about.

And to recount, I don't like to go into name calling, i know starting is confusing and there's plenty of old bad info. My problem is your giant fucking ego after one mediocre premade grow. You don't know what you're doing and not only refuse to heed any advice from people with experience that actually know and care how to grow, but you'll inject your own stupid shit as the "correct" advice. You've become a real asshole lately.


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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: LtLurker]
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There's no helping this guy LtLuker


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Re: First time grow with spawn bags and bulk substrate. [Re: LtLurker]
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Once again, what specific "stupid shit" advice have I given? Can you quote one "specific" thing I have said that is wrong. You are dead wrong about fan drying and desiccant. Anyone can read up on that for five minutes to find out the truth. If you fan dry your shrooms and then put them in a well made desiccant chamber, they will get as dry as dry can get.

Edited by Spiritualscience (10/10/19 12:50 AM)

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