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OfflineCleverName
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how do you personally classify a "sin"
    #2609039 - 04/27/04 11:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

for a quick answer, i suppose i would consider anything that goes against my integrity a "sin."

i would say something about something going against freewill, but i dont know if it exists.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2609174 - 04/28/04 12:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sin is 'that which alienates one from GOD.' It usually refer to the usual idolatries of existence that place one's petty desires above Compassion.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2609229 - 04/28/04 12:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well personally I try to stay away from using the term "sin" because of its religious background.

However, I would define "wrong" (the word I use in place of "sin") as anything which intentionally/avoidably harms another being.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2609260 - 04/28/04 12:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: trendal]
    #2609706 - 04/28/04 02:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i dont like sin, or right and wrong.

you make choices.....and you live with the outcomes, they are yours to deal with.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2610414 - 04/28/04 04:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"Sin" is anything that tastes good, feels good, or sounds good.  :grin:


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2610697 - 04/28/04 10:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

> how do you personally classify a "sin"

Simple. A "sin" is something that somebody else feels that I shouldn't be doing.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: Seuss]
    #2610747 - 04/28/04 10:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

>Simple. A "sin" is something that somebody else feels that I shouldn't be doing.


So, eating shrooms, drinking tea, bla bla bla... Almost everything would be wrong to do then?


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2610887 - 04/28/04 11:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sin lies only in hurting other people unnecessarily. all other 'sins' are invented nonsense. (hurting yourself is not sinful - just stupid.)
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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2610895 - 04/28/04 11:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

something that brings backlash which never seems to change


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2610904 - 04/28/04 12:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Since I don't believe in organized religion or a consious judging "GOD", sin is a strage word to describe. But I would say that sin, to me, is something you do, say, think that you regret or feel bad about doing. Something you have done that goes against what you believe in or who you really are.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: Seuss]
    #2612365 - 04/28/04 06:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hehe, i like that


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: ]
    #2612564 - 04/28/04 07:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just a thought to both you and Royale -
Judgement as a Divine attribute does not necessarily have to be understood anthropomorphically. In Kabbalism, the sphere called 'Din.' or Judgement, which balances 'Chesed' or Mercy, is understood as an 'Emanation' of 'Ein Sof' - The Limitless - the Transcendental Reality beyond attributes or personality as humans comprehend it.

Judgement is a trait which is 'contractile,' (opposite 'expansive' Mercy) and which allows for the Divine Essence to contract (sort of like an amoeba forms a contractile vacuole or bubble) thereby forming a 'void' or a 'singularity' into which creation can burst forth. Since this is a limitation of the Limitless, it has the metaphysical effect of casting a spiritual 'Shadow' (Uncreated Light against creation), and evil is created. Evil is the proverbial 'Wrath of GOD' which is in cosmic contradistinction to GOD's Mercy,' and the two cosmic opposites condition one another. The human 'being' has these spheres or Divine traits ('the image and likeness of GOD'), and we have the capacity to manifest these. Children of Wrath thus have the 'Judgement' of GOD upon/within them, and this has much to do with our intention to embody Compassion/Beauty (Tiphereth) and Chesed (Mercy) - or not.

The ancient Egyptians illustrated the fate of us all at The Judgement, as the weighing of our Hearts against a feather. Heaven or Hell - Eternal Mercy or Eternal Wrath were the consequences of lives lived primarily under one aspect or the other.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #2613539 - 04/28/04 11:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A sin is a personal evaluation I think.

I doubt the many gods of ancient egypt agreed on what did constitute a sin and what didn't.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: castaway]
    #2614659 - 04/29/04 04:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

A sin is a personal evaluation I think.

I doubt the many gods of ancient egypt agreed on what did constitute a sin and what didn't.




exactly. i dont think there is more than one god....but exact-a-fucking-ly other than that. What might be a sin to you, may not be a sin to another. i say "to", not "for". there is a huge difference, dont ask me to explain either, use your own witts.

though i will give an example: Suicide. I may take my life and be perfectly ok with it, but to another soul who takes their life, it may be a huuuuuge deal to them and they will highly regret doing it. Yet those who go by "sins" would argue that suicide is simply a sin for everyone, end of story, when that is not true at all.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: ]
    #2615103 - 04/29/04 07:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Kottonmouth said:
  i dont think there is more than one god....




Yeah, I've been told it is a "sin" to believe otherwise
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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: ]
    #2615798 - 04/29/04 12:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sin for me is just anything thank gives me that knotted stomach feeling deep down but than again on that note what may bother you might not bother me at all.I have been told more than once how can you do that to someone one without feeling bad but in my own mind if i feel it is justifyed I don't feel bad about it and think what i am doing is right so i wouldn't cosinder it sin or wrong.


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2615911 - 04/29/04 01:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have only heard the term "sin" used by Christians. It is basically anything that goes against God. The Christians have made all earthly pleasures "sinfull" so they can use "guilt" to get you to go to church and give them $$$ to help "wash away your sins".

Its a big fukin joke. As long as you do no harm to anyone else, IMO you havent "sinned".


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: niteowl]
    #2616011 - 04/29/04 01:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sin is disobeying God, the Catholic Church make's it out to be that sin is what ever feels good, it's not.

what might be a sin for one person, might be what God wants another person to do.

Matthew 11:7-19

7When John's disciples had gone, Jesus began talking about him to the crowds. "Who is this man in the wilderness that you went out to see? Did you find him weak as a reed, moved by every breath of wind? 8Or were you expecting to see a man dressed in expensive clothes? Those who dress like that live in palaces, not out in the wilderness. 9Were you looking for a prophet? Yes, and he is more than a prophet. 10John is the man to whom the Scriptures refer when they say,

`Look, I am sending my messenger before you,
and he will prepare your way before you.'

11"I assure you, of all who have ever lived, none is greater than John the Baptist. Yet even the most insignificant person in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he is! 12And from the time John the Baptist began preaching and baptizing until now, the Kingdom of Heaven has been forcefully advancing, and violent people attack it 13For before John came, all the teachings of the Scriptures looked forward to this present time. 14And if you are willing to accept what I say, he is Elijah, the one the prophets said would come. 15Anyone who is willing to hear should listen and understand!
16"How shall I describe this generation? These people are like a group of children playing a game in the public square. They complain to their friends, 17`We played wedding songs, and you weren't happy, so we played funeral songs, but you weren't sad.' 18For John the Baptist didn't drink wine and he often fasted, and you say, `He's demon possessed.' 19And I, the Son of Man, feast and drink, and you say, `He's a glutton and a drunkard, and a friend of the worst sort of sinners!' But wisdom is shown to be right by what results from it."


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Re: how do you personally classify a "sin" [Re: CleverName]
    #2616057 - 04/29/04 02:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

To me, a sin is when your ego does something your alter ego doesn't approve. Of course you can view the concept of sin from several other aspects but my point is, even without having any kind of religion, one might also sin, as the concept itself is bound not only to a social/religious sense but also to a more personal and subjective meaning.

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