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Re: Pan Sub? [Re: SocalJosh]
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SocalJosh said:
Death caps have white spores.. most Amanitas and poisonous mushrooms have white spores. Amatoxin poisoning shows symptoms in 6 hours. Read up on it and do some good research before you start picking mushrooms. It’s only dangerous when you don’t take the time to understand what you are doing. Then it might cost you your life so if I were you I would buy a good field guide and research research research


There are some very toxic brown spored mushrooms as well - a plethora of Incoybe species, and the most toxic ones in
Cortinarius, C. orellanus and C. rubellus. These are pretty easy to distinguish from edible or hallucinogenic species
though, as long as you know the macrocharacteristics.


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Re: Pan Sub? [Re: FrostedFlake]
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Ok so I took another picture of the same spore print while illuminating it with a flashlight. Clearly my desk lamp is useless for mycology purposes. As you can see it is not dark brown/purple at all but light chocolate/rust brown! IMO this is not a pan at all, but a poisonous galerina autumnalis!

https://www.google.ca/search?q=galerina+autumnalis+spore+print&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjz0Z6o65XjAhXUW80KHdW1CzAQ_AUIECgB&biw=1440&bih=826#imgrc=_

They are all the same species and all printed the same color under the flaslight.

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Re: Pan Sub? [Re: FrostedFlake]
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Panaeolus foenisecii


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Re: Pan Sub? [Re: Duggstar]
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Those are not rusty brown or orange lol. And ya what Duggstar said. Foes IMO.

OP I would find someone in your area who can show you whats up. Those dont look orange , it looks more medium/ dark brown to me.  And they definitely dont look like galerinas IMO. As I stated before a field guide would help you so much. Youtube is a good resource these days as long as you're getting reputable information.

Like Anglerfish said, for sure there are dangerous brown spore prints. You need to make sure you have a good understanding before attempting to do this.

The last thing you want is to hurt yourself or others.

Another all too common story on here is deciding to eat the mushies, and midway through your trip convincing yourself you picked the wrong ones. The fear of not knowing will ruin your amazing experience and lead you to really really wishing you had taken the time to understand this hobby a little better.

Sorry if Im coming off strong, I only wish for us all to safely trip balls and whatnot. It only takes a few easy mistakes to ruin this for everyone.


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Re: Pan Sub? [Re: SocalJosh]
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Even with a field guide it comes down to the picker's subjective opinion of what shade of color(s) a print is (which changes DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF LIGHT IT IS VIEWED UNDER) which makes eating a wild mushroom one of the riskiest, dumbest things a person could do imo, even if surveying the internet and getting the opinions of randos first.

Then there is the fact that not only magic mushrooms stain blue, which I always heard was a fool proof identification method until today!

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9180569

I know a guy who freaked out from eating cubes grown from a spore syringe sold by a vendor because the trip was so bad(cold chills even though it was hot out, skin crawling)that he thought that they were not cubes but toxic. He has a tumor growing on his liver now and doctors are baffled what caused it since they have only seen steroid abusing body builders(which he is not)and women who have been on birth control pills for decades getting them.

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Re: Pan Sub? [Re: FrostedFlake]
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There are a few interpretations of the “if it stains blue” mentality.
If it stains blue
If it has purple/brown spores
Semi gelatinous pellicle.
According to Stamets these three things are in fact fool proof. All three must be present tho. And only in Psilocybe mushrooms not in Panaeolina.

As for your friend that really sucks but did the doctors actually attribute his tumor to psilocybin use?


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