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    #26084453 - 07/01/19 04:43 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

What are peoples thoughts on libertarian beliefs.


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Re: Libertarians [Re: Matius] * 3
    #26084462 - 07/01/19 04:49 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

libertarians live in a fantasy world


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Re: Libertarians [Re: Matius]
    #26084464 - 07/01/19 04:50 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

The notions of civic and personal liberties are nice, but I feel the economic policies are at best unrealistic, and at worst irresponsible. Also, a lot of people concoct amalgams of libertarianism and anarchy, or voluntary taxation and things like that, which sound pleasant but are really uninformed if not silly.


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Re: Libertarians [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #26084479 - 07/01/19 04:57 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Libertarianism isn’t a serious ideology.


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Re: Libertarians [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #26084671 - 07/01/19 06:49 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Do you agree with legalizing all drugs?

Or moving towards most drugs?


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Re: Libertarians [Re: XUL]
    #26084738 - 07/01/19 07:28 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Anyone can legalize drugs.  Dont have to be a libertarian for that


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Re: Libertarians [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
    #26084745 - 07/01/19 07:31 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

It is libertarian philosophy that drugs being legalized will sort themselves out through social Darwinism.


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Re: Libertarians [Re: XUL]
    #26084770 - 07/01/19 07:41 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Sure, thats flower-child philosophy too.  Libertarians dont get to lay claim to legalization


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Re: Libertarians [Re: ballsalsa] * 3
    #26084820 - 07/01/19 07:57 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Libertarians are about self reliance. I have never felt the need for big brother to tell me how to live, and persue happiness. Being a slave to a corrupt system is something that i find it hard to abide. The loss of freedom due to taxes, and passing of incrementally small laws that go un noticed until all liberty is gone is The end game. The free market should be free. People should persue happiness, and compete.


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Re: Libertarians [Re: Matius] * 1
    #26084827 - 07/01/19 08:00 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

The free market never existed and it never will


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Re: Libertarians [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26084830 - 07/01/19 08:02 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

What do you propose?


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Re: Libertarians [Re: XUL]
    #26084836 - 07/01/19 08:03 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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It is libertarian philosophy that drugs being legalized will sort themselves out through social Darwinism.




Sounds pretty fucked up to me. People don’t social Darwinize quickly. They stick around and drag their entire communities down with them. They steal grandmas OxyContin. They quit their jobs at the factory. You know all this. You live in a drug addled trump shithole


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Re: Libertarians [Re: koods]
    #26084846 - 07/01/19 08:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Yes. In a world where they can. There are always ways to mitigate risk. When we aren't lazy.


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Re: Libertarians [Re: koods]
    #26084863 - 07/01/19 08:15 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

So, you support the drug war?


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Re: Libertarians [Re: XUL] * 1
    #26084869 - 07/01/19 08:17 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

No. I support critical thought, and liberty. Wars on abstract ideas, and human nature seem like a waste of resources that are stolen from me in the first place.


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Re: Libertarians [Re: Matius]
    #26084883 - 07/01/19 08:24 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I was talking to Koods.


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Re: Libertarians [Re: Matius]
    #26084885 - 07/01/19 08:25 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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No. I support critical thought, and liberty. Wars on abstract ideas, and human nature seem like a waste of resources that are stolen from me in the first place.





So what happens when heroin junkies bog down communities?

What then?


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Re: Libertarians [Re: XUL]
    #26084887 - 07/01/19 08:26 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

How so?


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Re: Libertarians [Re: Matius]
    #26084892 - 07/01/19 08:28 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Increased robbery, death, overcrowded hospitals, crime, kids getting hooked.


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Re: Libertarians [Re: XUL]
    #26084898 - 07/01/19 08:31 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Well those are definitely potential problems. I don't have all of the answers, but letting nature take its course, and the junkies dealing with the consequences of their actions without an inflated government would be a start.


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