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Offlinematt66
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dunking before first flush
    #2608350 - 04/27/04 10:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

anyone ever dunk before first flush, when you take the colonized cake out of the jar for the first time? This is what I did because my jar was fully colonized for a long time and I didn't cold shock it so it never pinned. When I birthed it, I dunked/cold shocked at the same time for approx 12 hours. Did I commit or horrible mistake, or could this turn out ok?


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: matt66]
    #2609484 - 04/28/04 01:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I just finished my first round with the pf tek, and I dunked all my cakes before the first flush for about 12 hours, used a mix of 1 to 10 h202. Each cake was in its own ziplock and stuck in the fridge during the 12 hours.

Cakes were then rolled in verm after dunk. Yield dry off of 12 cakes for first flush was about 1oz. All cakes pinned exactly 1 week after dunk.

So in other words you are fine. Dunk again after first flush, I found it better to make sure all pins are gone before dunking again because I was growing mutants when I left a few on.

Good luck


Edited by frock (04/28/04 01:35 AM)


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: matt66]
    #2610193 - 04/28/04 03:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Your fine. Next time don't take the cake out of the jar. Why handle it when you don't need to.  Just take out the dry verm layer and fill with water. I like to keep them in the fridge and do the shock at the same time also. (notice the cakes are floating in the jar) When your done just empty out the water and birth or dunk and roll or whatever your going to do.  :thumbup:

No comments about all the verm in the fridge, the wife handles that.




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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: Magash]
    #2611132 - 04/28/04 01:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Can you dunk cakes in something nutritious like sterilized/pasturized honey water? Or would that be too much of a contam risk?


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: matt66]
    #2611171 - 04/28/04 01:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

dunking is essential,cold shocking is not needed for cubensis though it wont hurt your shrooms.

endokrin,some people have tried milk,beer etc for dunking.
generaly considered to be a waste of time and as you said a contam risk.


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: Hanky]
    #2611305 - 04/28/04 02:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i didnt see this thread before i posted, how about serum? it's sterile and safe enough to be ejected to a ill man's blood and has enough nutritients to feed him.

Should i try it? it's about an hour since i harvested and would like to know..


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: Gardener]
    #2611707 - 04/28/04 04:10 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Gardener,
I have no idea if it's a good idea, but experimentation is cool, so I'll say try it with one cake!
Unless anyone comes and says it's definately a bad idea...
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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: JohnnyJ]
    #2611747 - 04/28/04 04:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

JohnnyJ: if possible try to compare same cakes with/without serum
i know that serum is basically water, so i would try to even use 100% serum on one cake in order to get extreme results. Meaning dont add 10% cause it wont make much difference

I have no equipment to make my own cakes, otherwise i would even try mayo. Good luck, If it works i want 50% of the gain cause i had the original idea haha ahahaha ha hahaa

Seriously, dont forget to post if you try it


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: Gardener]
    #2611875 - 04/28/04 04:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I was telling you to try it man!
LOL, I might give it a go sometime in the future...
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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: JohnnyJ]
    #2611935 - 04/28/04 04:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

sorry, i was watching anime, bidding on ebay, cooking, eating, and watching forums, speaking to msn, talking on the phone.

I got this kit with a friend, and if i spoil it she will rape me


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: matt66]
    #2612342 - 04/28/04 06:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

So it's always good to dunk the cakes? i should dunk all 8 of my cakes? i just take off the dry layer and add water and then put the top back on and leave out for 24 hours? in fridge or out? I'm growing B+. should i use filtered water or just tap water? then i roll in dry vermiculite? why? haha i have alot of questions...


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: PsychosMind]
    #2612437 - 04/28/04 07:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

My opinion: fridge cause outside its good for contams, bad for mushis
please dunk one in serum to see what happens
tap water is supposed to have some chlorine (bleach?) in it for germs and stuff. so it shoudl be ok. Theoretically if u filter out the chlorine it might be better because it will be poorer but it might be prone to contam. But hey, it's only 24hours

What i would do (if i had spare time) is experiment with all 8 cakes
Some use peroxide to avoid contams

I used tap water only

Dont know about verm rolling. if it feels good try it, not much to loose

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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: matt66]
    #2612471 - 04/28/04 07:10 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I grow B+ also, I always dunk/shock the cakes by pouring cold tap water in the jars til it almost flows over and screw the jar lid back on and set in the fridge for atleast 20 hours.


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: matt66]
    #2612491 - 04/28/04 07:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

would it be considered a good idea to boil some water, let the water cool back down in the pot i used to boil it, and then dunk the cakes?

just wanna lower possibility of contams, since I've put so much effort into keeping the cakes sterile so far.


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Re: dunking before first flush [Re: jux]
    #2613019 - 04/28/04 09:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

in theory its a good idea, and if you can boil it in a pressure cooker (so it reaches a higher temp) it would be better.

Pressure (bar) boiling temp (C)
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1.00---------100
1.50---------111
2.00---------120
2.5----------127
3.0----------133
3.5----------139
4.-----------143

i think you shouldnt boil it to much so that a lot of water evaporates cause u will get a high concentration of salts and minerals
and salt is not good for mushrooms (trust me i know)

i want someone to try serum, its sterile and safe enough for your blood, with loads of nutritients.

But i hope nothing goes wrong cause they are gonna kill me.. ha ha ha


(irrelevant: a F1 bmw engine of the 80's would produce 1500bhp from 1500cc at 11000rpm and 5.5 bar pressure)


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