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Re: Whats your ideal drug policy? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28356497 - 06/12/23 03:57 AM (7 months, 13 days ago)

Prehistoric rock art near Villar del Humo in Spain suggests that Psilocybe hispanica was used in religious rituals up to a minimum of 6,000 years ago.

The first amendment to the constitution of the United States is as follows. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise or practice of religion thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The fact that it was found in Spain and not the US is entirely irrelevant because regardless of where it was found, it is nevertheless documented to have religious and spiritual uses. It is entirely irrefutable that the illegality of psilocybin (and psilocin) containing mushrooms as well as other entheogen containing plants and fungi is as unconstitutional as it is illegal in and of itself. Especially with mescaline and psilocybin (as well as Psilocin) as they have a minimum of 5000-6000 years of documented religious and spiritual use. (Afterthought: I didn't mention other entheogens because I don't have enough information on their use in religious ceremonies or spiritual use, if I find this information I will be sure to add it) Banning these substances, besides being a grand display of Misinformation spreading stupidity and a vast USSR, east block, NKVD, Joseph Stalin style government overreach of control into its citizens lives, is an impingement on the free and unhindered religious or spiritual practice(s) of any given individual should they so choose to use these substances for spiritual/religious purposes. This definitionally is a violation of first amendment rights of all American citizens. It's that simple.

Side note: If anybody should decide that they want to make the argument of "Well that can just be an excuse to make hard drugs legal", I have thought about this as well and my response after thinking on this for some time is respectfully, no, that's not how that works. Drugs for example heroin or fentanyl or meth or anything else of that nature has absolutely 0 documented religious or spiritual use, therefore drugs will remain illegal because they will not fall into violation of the first amendment. (Rightfully so imo, however, I very firmly believe that it is immoral, unproductive, sadistic, and vile to criminalize and incarcerate people just because they decide, THEY DECIDE, to put something in their body that can cause damage to or kill that individual. Instead we should offer them real help such as psychedelic assisted addiction therapy but they're the ones that have to make that decision for themselves. You can lead the horse to the water, but you can't make it drink.  If they do something idiotic, charge them for the idiotic thing they did, not for whatever they may have happened to have been under the influence of at the time. Rizomorph said this earlier (if I misspelled your name I apologize). I think use of said drugs should be strongly discouraged and looked down upon, but I do not think that it should be a criminal offense to exercise our God given right of FREE WILL whether I, or anyone else for that matter, thinks what that individual is doing is wrong or not, with the sole exception of if that individual is doing something dangerous or lethal to those in the presence of or in any other form of contact with that individual).

That all being said, legalize entheogenic plants and fungus. Full education on proper caution, care, use, and most importantly the dangers of misuse and underage (under 21) use as well as distribution of scientific facts and data instead of garbage government propaganda should be the utmost priority. (The government) Mind your own business and realize that just because you don't like something or understand something does not give you a right to take that away from the people who do like, understand (as much as an individual can), and know how to use these things and who treat them with care and respect. Make cultivation, possession, use in a private space, and sale with licensing legal, and let those of us who want to use these substances for both our physical and spiritual benefit, growth, and development use them and go about our business. Stop being completely ignorant of the mental and physical health benefits of these things and stop over-exaggerating and in some instances straight up inventing and fabricating misinformation and lies on how "dangerous" these things are, for example the time the government lied about LSD damaging chromosomes which is a blatant and highly dishonest scare tactic with absolutely no scientific evidence even remotely suggesting that this is even 0.0001% true. (Which by the way was proven to be completely false with moderate and even heroic doses used in moderation. They are hardly dangerous at all if they're even dangerous in the first place, which from all evidence I've seen, they pose absolutely no danger when used with the proper caution, care, and respect, as well as having a next to nothing addiction risk despite the government's lies on this matter that dishonestly as well as illegally enables the government to list these compounds as schedule 1 substances). Instead of incarceration of those who make, use, or are fascinated by these substances, give them jobs related to say marijuana or Psilocybin mushroom or even psychoactive cacti cultivation, sale, research, psychedelic therapy, ETC. and allow them to have a future and be productive, hard working, and make them beneficial to both society and the economy instead of stripping them of every hope, dream, and chance of a future they have and reducing them to nothing but dust in the wind.

Suicide rates would drop, alcoholism would dwindle, smokers would quit, those with severe depression would feel that life is worth living again, love and unity would replace hatred and selfishness, those dealing with post traumatic stress disorder would receive long awaited treatment that would actually be effective, the human brain (and mind by extension) would be far better understood, the causes of mental disorders would be discovered, so many solutions to so many problems would be discovered and used, if only those in positions of power weren't so power hungry and scared of those under their control thinking freely for themselves and for once in their carrier (and probably lives for that matter) lift the vail of ignorance from their power-blinded eyes and see the reality of the world we live in, all the positive changes we need to fix this broken world, and bring about all these said positive changes that these substances would catalyze, so long as they are made available to the masses and not corporatized and not snatched up by the greedy big pharma companies who are less worried about us and more worried about themselves. My evidence for my thinking on this comes from the various studies conducted using psychedelics during the 1950s, 1960s, as well as modern research today.

One more thing, LEAVE THE GREEDY, SELFISH, OVERPRICING PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES OUT OF IT!!!!!!!!!! They're not worried about anything I just said, all they're worried about is how they can make the most money off of those who are deeply suffering. God provided us with these plants and fungi, and it belongs to anyone and everyone who chooses to use them. (Personally I believe in God but anyone reading this has a right to believe however they wish to believe)

Note: psychedelic/entheogen=substance
          Drug(s)=unhealthy/damaging/lethal

I hope all this isn't nonsense lol it's just been on my mind for a very long time.

P.S.-I welcome both compliments and criticism. If I want to fight the government on this, I need every point of view I can get so I can cover as many angles as I can.



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"They say money can't buy you happiness, but id rather cry in a dodge challenger than on the sidewalk"
Zombie
"When working with psychedelic substances, you must always start with yourself"
Dr. Albert Hofmann (1906-2008, Rest in peace)
Any questions/posts asked/posted by myself are purely, 100%  hypothetical and/or make-believe and do not state fact or any current events in any form.


Edited by RP3 (06/13/23 06:47 AM)


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