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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27268743 - 03/25/21 10:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The EPA is making gun regulations?


no thoe that would not surprise me one day they do lol. Basically they are killing off modifying cars an making it illegal.  No engine mods or exhaust mods what so ever. So much for getting a R32 skyline GTR
An going HKS for turbos.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27268757 - 03/25/21 11:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Modifying a car isn't a Constitutional right, so that's not really relevant to the discussion.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27268830 - 03/25/21 12:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Modifying a car isn't a Constitutional right, so that's not really relevant to the discussion.


i know this but im all for gun control l, especially for white gun owners i think they should be on a special watch list. All of these shootings that happen are race motivated an done by white people off there rockers.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27268831 - 03/25/21 12:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There are plenty of places in the world like that.  America is founded on certain freedoms, however.

Tone down the racism in this forum or you'll find yourself banned.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27268852 - 03/25/21 12:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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There are plenty of places in the world like that.  America is founded on certain freedoms, however.

Tone down the racism in this forum or you'll find yourself banned.



im not being racist its just facts that mass shootings are done by racist white people i think we all can agree with that.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Mach z 800] * 1
    #27268858 - 03/25/21 12:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Many are.  Advocating for putting only white gunowners on a list, however, is racist as fuck.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27269010 - 03/25/21 02:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Many are.  Advocating for putting only white gunowners on a list, however, is racist as fuck.


fair enough

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera] * 1
    #27269117 - 03/25/21 04:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The EPA isn't doing shit to aftermarket car modification companies. You are allowed to do anything to your car that you want. If however you are breaking the law then it is illegal, and that could result in you not being allowed to drive it on the street. Obvious because it's obvious. I know this because my business literally machines high performance parts for various motorcycles and race cars.

Also, we have like the most guns per capita outside of South Africa or something. Owning guns simply isn't a problem. I personally own 7 of them. That's two guns per person in my household, one of which is five. Good luck with that.




The US has 1.2 guns per person. Next highest is SA at 0.537 and Yemen at 0.528. Second place is more or less genociding third place right now.

The civilian population of the US owns almost half of all the guns in the world.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27269496 - 03/25/21 09:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

"Enjoy your m4, an ar15s there going bye bye an hand guns will follow close behind. Its probably not a good time to get a gun you will have to turn it in to the government very soon."

The republicans have been using this as a scare tactic to coerce people into voting red for decades.

I have to disagree with you.
There is no possible way to enforce such laws, on top of that such bold legislation would sooner or later backfire on the democrats.

I hope all red states do exactly what the blue states did under trump.
Start lots sanctuary city and autonomous zone bullshit.
The constitution is on the side of the lawful gun owner.

In new zealand they have instituted mandatory buyback programs.
The compliance rate is around 5%, it would undoubtedly be much lower in a country with such a huge gun culture.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27269631 - 03/26/21 01:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Many are.  Advocating for putting only white gunowners on a list, however, is racist as fuck.




Holy shit conceptual and logical consistency in a political thread, someone get out the cake and beer!


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27269650 - 03/26/21 01:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Why don't we take everyone's guns away, including the cops and the military for a year and see how it goes and if it's bad we can give them back


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: twighead]
    #27269671 - 03/26/21 02:23 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

We could try it with police. That's how they generally do it in Britain. I don't think there would be any point to having a military without guns, but I try to be open minded.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera]
    #27269732 - 03/26/21 04:49 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The EPA isn't doing shit to aftermarket car modification companies. You are allowed to do anything to your car that you want. If however you are breaking the law then it is illegal, and that could result in you not being allowed to drive it on the street. Obvious because it's obvious. I know this because my business literally machines high performance parts for various motorcycles and race cars.

Also, we have like the most guns per capita outside of South Africa or something. Owning guns simply isn't a problem. I personally own 7 of them. That's two guns per person in my household, one of which is five. Good luck with that.


Watch "EPA BANS CAR PERFORMANCE MODIFICATIONS" on YouTube

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27269829 - 03/26/21 06:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Doing illegal things is illegal. There's nothing controversial about that. VW, Chrysler, Fiat, and others all got fined for cheating emissions standards. If you produce parts that break emissions laws you should be punished.

I have a very hard time believing the EPA will ever go after production based race cars as they represent like 0% of the world's pollution problem. What they seem to be doing is attempting to discourage after market companies from creating products that increase pollution. Something I am all for 99.9% of the time.

For the record, I own a diesel car and it has an ECU flash. The main reason I flashed the ECU was to help preserve the diesel particulate filter. The stock flash irregularly performs particulate filter regeneration and that leads to decreased life of the filter. The ECU flash actually works to maintain the diesel particulate filter. I also gained 40 horsepower and 100 lbs/ft of torque. Nice.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera]
    #27269907 - 03/26/21 07:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Doing illegal things is illegal. There's nothing controversial about that. VW, Chrysler, Fiat, and others all got fined for cheating emissions standards. If you produce parts that break emissions laws you should be punished.

I have a very hard time believing the EPA will ever go after production based race cars as they represent like 0% of the world's pollution problem. What they seem to be doing is attempting to discourage after market companies from creating products that increase pollution. Something I am all for 99.9% of the time.

For the record, I own a diesel car and it has an ECU flash. The main reason I flashed the ECU was to help preserve the diesel particulate filter. The stock flash irregularly performs particulate filter regeneration and that leads to decreased life of the filter. The ECU flash actually works to maintain the diesel particulate filter. I also gained 40 horsepower and 100 lbs/ft of torque. Nice.


lol no there going after company's as we speak lol go look it up. Even your chip is emissions mod thst is considered illegal.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27269943 - 03/26/21 08:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Completely different issue. If you want to discuss EPA regs, make a thread. This thread is about the 2nd amendment.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: twighead]
    #27270085 - 03/26/21 09:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Why don't we take everyone's guns away, including the cops and the military for a year and see how it goes and if it's bad we can give them back




  It would be bad for sure and inhumane .
I have a mechanical broadhead for my hunting bow that will open up into a 3 in blade inside a deers body .  If a person was standing still , there's no wind and I'm totally sober I could shoot a cantaloupe off of their head  at 80 yards about 80 to 90 % of the time  .
    We were so good at killing each other before firearms I don't think things would change that much .  The amount of people that want to kill won't change , they  would just have to work on their skills a little .


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #27270160 - 03/26/21 10:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Can't take guns from police while a third of the US population owns almost half of the guns in the world.

It would turn US policing into a 1 in 3 chance of being shot to death.

I think the solution is to sell guns to guns, so that guns can use their own guns to protect the lives of their fellow guns. Only a good gun with a gun stops a bad gun with a gun.

Plus, my 401k will go up.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27270191 - 03/26/21 11:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I think we should pass a law that says you can only buy 1 gun every two years  on a random tue in November . You can't buy them online or through the mail and you have to show up  with multiple forms of  ID .


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27270302 - 03/26/21 01:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

So the purge but we do it during the holidays so people can get time off work.


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