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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27024967 - 11/06/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

He's repeating countless Trump buzzphrases, complaining about immigrants and Democrats stealing the Second Amendment. It's obvious he's a typical republican, and none of their people give a shit about the Constitution, but especially not their presidential candidate, who he is spewing the BS propaganda of...


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: STPLSD25] * 1
    #27024969 - 11/06/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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He's repeating countless Trump buzzphrases, complaining about immigrants and Democrats stealing the Second Amendment. It's obvious he's a typical republican, and none of their people give a shit about the Constitution, but especially not their presidential candidate, who he is spewing the BS propaganda of...




wait me? what?

I don't think I've ever acted ;like the second amendment is the only one that matters... are you responding to someone else?

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Ezuma]
    #27266836 - 03/23/21 11:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Ah, well, that didn't take long at all for them to jump on a shooting and start beating the drum for banning rifles and magazines lol.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #27266850 - 03/24/21 12:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Cry harder


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods]
    #27266923 - 03/24/21 03:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The 2nd amendment is incompatible with the Democrat party because in a workers' struggle it requires constant resistance. This can escalate into an armed struggle. Mao said it best when he said political power comes out of the barrel of a gun.

Even then, baseline conservative ideology will lend itself to a whole arena of horrible ideas. Eventually an ethnonationalist takeover or something resembling it will acquire private and State power. This goes back to the original point. Only by arming the working class can you destroy a fascist nation-state.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Class-Conscious]
    #27267036 - 03/24/21 07:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The fascist state isn't what it used to be.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera] * 1
    #27267041 - 03/24/21 07:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Well i think its not the guns its the issue its the people. If they cant get a gun there is allways something they can use to cause lots of harm to people. In places you cant have guns stabbings are very common.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #27267100 - 03/24/21 08:04 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Ah, well, that didn't take long at all for them to jump on a shooting and start beating the drum for banning rifles and magazines lol.




Well they abandoned all their campaign promises so now they need something else to pretend to fight for.

If anyone thinks serious gun legislation is making it though this shitty right wing dem senate they’re dreaming.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27267133 - 03/24/21 08:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Well i think its not the guns its the issue its the people. If they cant get a gun there is allways something they can use to cause lots of harm to people. In places you cant have guns stabbings are very common.





Ehhh not really. A lot of people like to stroke their guns and imagine greatness. Mostly they become terrorists.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera] * 3
    #27267178 - 03/24/21 09:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Can you back up that claim?  I believe that the vast majority of gun owners don't become terrorists.  I also believe that the vast majority of guns are never used to shoot a person.  Where do you come up with the claim that "Mostly they become terrorists."

From a quick search, it looks like 5 million guns were sold in 2020 and less than 20 terrorist shootings occurred in that same year.  I'm really looking forward to your data showing that gun lovers "mostly" become terrorists.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27267205 - 03/24/21 09:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Can you show me where I said all gun owners become terrorists?

You can’t.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera] * 2
    #27267216 - 03/24/21 09:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Can you show me where I said you said that?

You did say, "Mostly they become terrorists" specifically referring to the "lot of people" who "like to stroke their guns and imagine greatness." 

Now, giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming you're correct that these people who "like to stroke their guns and imagine greatness" "mostly" become terrorists, that leads me to conclude that you're only talking about a very small percentage of gun owners.  Less than 40 out of 5 million in 2020, for example.

If the above is what you were saying, then that's a bit inconsistent with your claim that Mach was "not really" correct in saying that the problem isn't really the gun as much as the people.  After all, if only 40 out of 5 million "like to stroke their guns and imagine greatness," that's not really a gun problem.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27267222 - 03/24/21 10:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That’s a lot of fun stuff you are talking about. It’s a shame it’s just you talking.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera] * 1
    #27267226 - 03/24/21 10:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Ah....so we get to the point where instead of admitting your use of empty rhetoric, you retreat to the comfort of dismissal.  If you have a position, advocate for it.  If not, maybe you're just projecting with your last post.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27267228 - 03/24/21 10:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Negative. You being a pedant is fun though.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera] * 1
    #27267236 - 03/24/21 10:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There's nothing pedantic about my argument.  You said mach was incorrect.  To back that up, you claimed that a lot of people mostly become terrorists.  Now, after being confronted with the harsh reality that less than .001% of gun owners become terrorists, you suddenly backpedal from your claim without any clarification whatsoever of what your claim actually is or why you believe that Mach is incorrect.

I understand why you don't want to engage.  The data isn't on your side on this one.  What I don't understand is why you'd not just admit that your argument is really that 20 shootings is far too many, even if it is only a small percentage of gun owners.

But...to each his own, I suppose.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods] * 1
    #27267262 - 03/24/21 10:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Cry harder



Wow, great response, very enlightening.  No wonder 28 people have you on ignore, useless poster...


Yea so I hope this blows up in the D parties faces


Edit: Are you no longer a mod?

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #27267310 - 03/24/21 11:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The same people who didn't hesitate to arm Al-Qaeda in Syria with billions of $$$ worth of AK-47's, millions of rounds of ammo, top-tier sniper rifles, RPG launchers, rockets, missiles, artillery, grenades, and even tanks & APC's flown in from eastern european stockpiles, and on top of that, went so far as to have them trained by US Special Forces in Jordan, suddenly care about the American people so much that they want to take away your right to own any kind of useful rifle.

The same people who didn't hesitate to support terrorists for even a microsecond with billions of $$ in military-grade weaponry want to take away your right to own guns.

Remember that.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: chopstick]
    #27267312 - 03/24/21 11:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Which people, specifically?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #27267453 - 03/24/21 01:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Don’t answer that, chopstick.


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