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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #26793174 - 06/29/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Did anyone say doctors shouldn't be allowed to quit?  I said healthcare businesses should have to provide healthcare, but I don't recall anyone saying people should be forced to work in healthcare.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26793179 - 06/29/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If they have to provide healthcare for free, how many do you think will stay?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26793185 - 06/29/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Free to the patient, not without pay to the doctor.  But I'm sure you knew that's what we were talking about.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26793187 - 06/29/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Then who is paying the doctor?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26793521 - 06/30/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I guess you didn't like the word "free"?  Obviously I'm talking about single payer, where incomes don't matter in getting healthcare.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26793886 - 06/30/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Then that has nothing to do with freedom.  You started this whole discussion talking about a freedom to not worry about healthcare.  Now, you're just talking about a government benefit where the government pays for healthcare.  That's a completely different discussion.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #26794031 - 06/30/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If Government pays for healthcare, then people don't have to worry about it.  I don't see it as a "completely different" discussion at all.  But we can have a difference of opinion.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26794040 - 06/30/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I know you don't, and I'm not even saying you're wrong.  I have long since changed my mind about single payer healthcare.  I agree it's necessary for the stability of the society.  Where we disagree is on the core value behind it.  You see healthcare as a right, which I believe is fundamentally incompatible with freedom.  That's the only reason we had this discussion now.  It's more of a philosophical discussion about the "why" as opposed to the "what."


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #26796443 - 07/01/20 07:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Speaking of the 2nd amendment,

"An Arizona man was sentenced Tuesday in Las Vegas to 13 months in prison for selling illegally manufactured ammunition to the Route 91 Harvest festival gunman.

Douglas Haig, 57, of Mesa, pleaded guilty in November to a federal charge of manufacturing ammunition without a license in what was the only criminal case to stem from the Las Vegas massacre. He has until Oct. 2 to surrender.

Senior U.S. District Judge James Mahan imposed the sentence but said Federal Bureau of Prisons officials will have the discretion to decide whether Haig may serve some of the time at home..."

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/arizona-man-gets-prison-time-for-selling-ammo-to-las-vegas-shooter-2065133/
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: vinsue]
    #26796458 - 07/01/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Guns don't kill people.  Bullets kill people.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Enlil]
    #26902631 - 08/27/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

*Cough* *cough*


This year has sure fit my agenda, 5 million new gun owners apparently.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #26902901 - 08/27/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The second amendment is now compatible with the Democratic party because they want to kill cops.  Oh the hypocrisy.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: meltdowner] * 3
    #26903411 - 08/28/20 02:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

All this defund the police garbage is just further emboldening trumps base....

Literally all of the first responders in this country..

Its almost like the democrats are trying to lose this election.

Vote for us
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Destroy the 2nd amendment
Raise your taxes
Defund the police
Shut down the country for another 6 months


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Buckomcdoogle] * 1
    #26904117 - 08/28/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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All this defund the police garbage is just further emboldening trumps base....

Literally all of the first responders in this country..

Its almost like the democrats are trying to lose this election.

Vote for us
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Destroy the 2nd amendment
Raise your taxes
Defund the police
Shut down the country for another 6 months




Nobody wants to destroy the 2nd amendment. That would be unconstitutional.

Defund the police, in many cases we aren't getting what we are paying for, so yes.

Shut down the country, well it could be longer than 6 months. But had our current leaders handled this appropriately we'd be open. Conservative run states were the worst right now.

There are 1.3 million first respondents in the USA, i doubt that literally all of them are Trump supporters. Sounds like you have a very active imagination. Even still, if they are all Trump supporters, Hillary still won by more than 2 million votes... You might have to find another group of people that 100% supports Trump, maybe the Mole people or something?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera] * 5
    #26904246 - 08/28/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Joe Biden has said he wants to name Beto o rourke as his gun czar.

Who has blatantly said hes in favor of mandatory gun buybacks.

The democrats have proposed to ban all guns capable of accepting more then 10 rounds ( Which is literally 90% of the guns on the market )

The first responders?
The NYPD some 34k uniformed police (The largest police force in the country) has come out in support of trump in 2020.

Look at what is happening in Seattle, Portland and Kenosha....

These cities are literally being turned into lawless warzones.

I saw these things happening first hand in june...

Defund the police when entire cities are being burned and looted?

That is incredibly fucking stupid.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26904479 - 08/28/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Nothing you have said counters my points.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera] * 1
    #26904491 - 08/28/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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Nothing you have said counters my points.






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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: yeah]
    #26904888 - 08/28/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Entire cities are being burned and looted. It’s serious, where are the police when we need them?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera]
    #26904911 - 08/28/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Being told to hold back by their blue governments.

Mayor durkan in seattle banned all use of tear gas or pepper spray for crowd control.
How else are you supposed to stop an angry mob running wild?
Nightsticks and batons?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26904913 - 08/28/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Isnt it ironic how quickly all these tech liberals become supportive of the second amendment when their luxury condos get destroyed?


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