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OfflineKryptos
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods]
    #26080370 - 06/29/19 06:36 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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The Tree of Liberty must occasionally be watered by the blood of Tyrants.




Yknow not everything the founding fathers uttered was wise and quote worthy.




I know, but it's so fun to use the alt-right's quotes against them. Especially when they worship the Founding Fathers. So, anybody feel like some political assassinations? It would definitely solve some problems.

Oh, we'd need to get Mike Pence too. He's a bit too dominionist. He's gotta go.

EDIT: Lol JK Wink Wink Nudge Nudge.

Edited by Kryptos (06/29/19 06:39 AM)

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Kryptos]
    #26080408 - 06/29/19 07:03 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, talk dirty to me!


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera]
    #26080444 - 06/29/19 07:35 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

You smell like corn chips.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: XUL]
    #26080975 - 06/29/19 01:42 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

California is now background checking people to purchase ammo come July 17th I think, I have massive doubts that it will stop anything.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #26080980 - 06/29/19 01:45 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

@christopera I did not know you were serious, I thought(hoped) you were joking asking that question, here, read up:

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #26081000 - 06/29/19 02:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I think restricting gun ammo sales could potentially reduce gun violence. The US has the highest gun violence out of any other 1st-World Country. Thats not normal. Or should i say that shouldnt be normal. Reducing gun deaths would be plan for restricting ammo sales.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26081004 - 06/29/19 02:06 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Our liberty is more important to protect and worth the .0001 % of deaths due to guns.

When you look at it, cancer kills more. Do we compare our cancer rates to other countries and then adjust our laws to beat them? No. It's crazy if you ask me.

We must be vigilant and constantly checking government power. And maybe fight one day.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: XUL] * 3
    #26081030 - 06/29/19 02:21 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

It’s funny you bring up cancer, the rates of which we’ve effectively diminished by reducing the “liberty” of cigarette smokers.

Do you think we should undo those regulations and let cancer proliferate for the sake of liberty? Why or why not?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: XUL] * 1
    #26081108 - 06/29/19 03:33 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Our liberty is more important to protect and worth the .0001 % of deaths due to guns.

When you look at it, cancer kills more. Do we compare our cancer rates to other countries and then adjust our laws to beat them? No. It's crazy if you ask me.

We must be vigilant and constantly checking government power. And maybe fight one day.




Omg yes doctors look at cancer rates to see what treatments work and don’t work. Almost every technical or scientific organization strives to find the best practices being implemented elsewhere.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: XUL]
    #26081112 - 06/29/19 03:35 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Well our founding liberty is killing innocent people by proxy. What about their liberties that were taken from them using the 2nd Amendment? Is it fair for them to lose everything so a select few can have pounds of ammo at their disposal?

Cancer is a complex issue because the cause and effect of cigs and other cancer causing things isnt so clear cut. With guns, the cause and effect of people dying is direct, bullets cause deaths period.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #26081146 - 06/29/19 03:55 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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@christopera I did not know you were serious, I thought(hoped) you were joking asking that question, here, read up:

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii




Nice, so where does it say that the second amendment exists for people to kill tyrants?

It seems to me that you are making stuff up.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera]
    #26081160 - 06/29/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Looking at what works well in the rest of the world? Crazy if you ask me!

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera]
    #26081180 - 06/29/19 04:17 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Absolutely.  Again, we are drug users,
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@christopera I did not know you were serious, I thought(hoped) you were joking asking that question, here, read up:

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii




Nice, so where does it say that the second amendment exists for people to kill tyrants?

It seems to me that you are making stuff up.





"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


Right there,  if you do not understand this, I can not help you, maybe others can educate you on our history, I am not willing to waste my time.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #26081190 - 06/29/19 04:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

That’s not what you said. You said it gave people the right to kill tyrants.

Let’s just he clear, you aren’t going to educate me because you can’t. You’re living in the land of make believe.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: XUL] * 1
    #26081230 - 06/29/19 04:46 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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We must be vigilant and constantly checking government power. And maybe fight one day.




  That’s what the south was telling itself just before they got slaughtered in the civil war .
If your planning on fighting  our govt  I would like to point out that they have tanks . I don’t care what kinda rifle you have , an AR , a red Ryder BB gun it doesn’t make any difference to me if I’m in a tank . I’m just gunna drive up to your front door and turn on the flame thrower and set all your shit on fire.  Then I’m going to drive back and forth through all your burning shit about 30 times until I get bored .


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Psilynut2] * 2
    #26081264 - 06/29/19 05:03 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Is that why we won the wars in the middle east?

o wait, we are still fighting there, 19 years later.

You severely underestimate what people with rifles and some know how can do.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH] * 2
    #26081302 - 06/29/19 05:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Is that why we won the wars in the middle east?

o wait, we are still fighting there, 19 years later.

You severely underestimate what people with rifles and some know how can do.



  You remember what happened during the first Iraq war ? The gave up after about a week the second time .
You severely underestimate what people with airplanes can do . If we wanted to we could load up all of our b52s and bomb every building , outhouse , goatshed , we could kill every living thing in the middleeast without a single boot on the ground , if we felt like it .
  There’s a big difference between all out war and winning hearts and minds . Sure hope no one ever follows you into battle .... we could have set all of north Vietnam on fire , if the public would have tolerated it .


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26081320 - 06/29/19 05:52 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)


:loldongs:

seriously though, many regular posters here served in the military so why not ask them directly?
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: Kryptos]
    #26081331 - 06/29/19 06:00 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Unrelated: You guys hear about the lady in Alabama that got shot in the stomach, miscarried, and got charged for manslaughter because she miscarried and her fetus died?



I actually did not see this story until after reading this, she has been charged apparently because she started the fight and continued escalating it until she was 2nd amendmented and it cost her the fetus, and now she goes to jail.  :shrug:  keep your hands to yourself

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #26081333 - 06/29/19 06:01 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Absolutely.  Again, we are drug users,
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@christopera I did not know you were serious, I thought(hoped) you were joking asking that question, here, read up:

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii




Nice, so where does it say that the second amendment exists for people to kill tyrants?

It seems to me that you are making stuff up.





"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


Right there,  if you do not understand this, I can not help you, maybe others can educate you on our history, I am not willing to waste my time.



Tell me - what happened historically, especially beginning in 1824 to these militias that were widespread? Many states have their own militias in addition to the National Guard - which is a militia (complication w/ how its been used recently)...

Sorry to paint it bare, but the private groups calling themselves 'militias' do not represent their states,  defend their states, the people living there - or anyone but themselves - they're just right-wing political extremists playing dress up thinking they know jackshit about the constitution :smilingpuppy:


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