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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26256774 - 10/16/19 06:36 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Beto doesn't even know what he wants to ban.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26257016 - 10/16/19 08:43 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Y'all know how to make gun cotton?



I do and I have. It’s fairly easy but you need very concentrated sulfuric and nitric acid or a nitrate salt. Cellulose has three hydroxyl groups that can be nitrated and nitrating it perfectly for use in a bullet is not that easy. Under nitrating will under power a bullet and over nitrating can destroy the gun barrel.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods]
    #26257051 - 10/16/19 09:13 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

One can make nitric from sulfuric, yes?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26257075 - 10/16/19 09:24 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

You can but it is not easy at all. It’s easier to make a dilute acid, but a useful concentration requires a well sealed distillation setup with a vent at the end. You heat a nitrate salt in concentrated sulfuric acid. The process releases a lot of free nitrogen oxides, a very toxic gas that you absolutely cannot breathe in.

As a general rule, you can make almost any volatile acid with sulfuric except an acid that can be oxidized by sulfate. Hydrobromic and hydroiodic are examples.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods]
    #26257094 - 10/16/19 09:34 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

So if i had a short path distillation set-up with 2 -105c cold traps in series, it would be do-able but dangerous or is proper ventilation absolutely required?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26257134 - 10/16/19 09:58 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I would not do this short path. Just a simple distillation setup with a nice long condenser to cool the distillate. I used a vacuum adapter and hose to vent the nitrogen oxide gas. Last time I did this I tried
To get fancy and bubbled the gas through a solution NaOH. It actually doesn’t really work. The nitrogen oxide doesn’t react readily and if you aren’t careful you will get a catastrophic suck back. Just do it outside and stay upwind or in a fume hood. Nitrogen dioxide is considered an “insidious” poison. Because it hydrolyzes slowly and isn’t very irritating, you can breathe in a lot without much physical discomfort. Once in your lungs, it slowly turns into nitrous and nitric acids and you suffocate in fluids your body produces to rid itself of the poison. Apparently you can breathe a fatal dose and feel fine for hours. You slowly die over the next few days.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods]
    #26257149 - 10/16/19 10:03 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not planning to make any anyway, just curious.  If i had some, i would want to play with it and probably end up missing limbs and whatnot.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26257168 - 10/16/19 10:13 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Or like vaping Vitamin E.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26257174 - 10/16/19 10:14 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Huh?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26257181 - 10/16/19 10:18 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

That’s why I made it. I wanted to nitrate shit. I nitrated cotton, but other things made me far too nervous. Nitrocellulose is completely safe until it is dry. Apparently nitrating toluene is fairly safe but rather difficult and time consuming. Nitrating glycerol is super easy and likely to end in total disaster. You can nitrate just about any substance with hydroxyl groups... sugars and alcohols. 

Nitrocellulose is fun to play with. A clump the size of a cotton ball ignited in your open hand makes a nice thump and bright flash. The same amount in a tightly closed hand would remove your fingers. It can be detonated with heat or impact but it’s rather difficult to set it off by hitting it. It will spontaneously detonate at a moderate temperature, so you have to be careful drying it using heat. It can also be detonated with a drop of concentrated sulfuric acid.

You can also nitrate the keratin in your skin if you get nitric acid on it. It doesn’t cause any real damage, but it leaves a very distinct yellow spot that lasts until you’ve shed those layers of skin. If you treat the spot with a dilute ammonia or bicarbonate solution, it turns bright orange.



I put this hole in a wooden door with a ball bearing shot from a small brass tube sealed at one end and loaded with a small amount of nitrated cotton (a wad about the same size as the ball bearing). I heated up the end of the tube with a lighter until it fired.



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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods]
    #26257195 - 10/16/19 10:27 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I watched a video where a guy nitrated some glycerol.  Looked super dangerous and he did injure himself by the time it was over


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26257203 - 10/16/19 10:33 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Most nitrated compounds are not explosive if they are wet or mixed with water. I suspect nitrated glycerol is not water soluble and so the moment it is produced it separates out. Plus it is super easy to set off by mechanical means alone.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods]
    #26257208 - 10/16/19 10:38 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

The stuff they sell as liquid bandage is dinitrated cotton. If you dry it out you get a super flammable plastic film. The difference between dinitrate and trinitrate is deflagration vs. detonation. I suspect the stuff you use for bullets is a mix of di and trinitrates. You want something that doesn’t explode so quickly that the bullet doesn’t have time to move. You just blow out your barrel.

I think nitrocellulose for ammo is made by dissolving nitrated cotton in a solvent like acetone then letting it dry, then powdering it.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods]
    #26257254 - 10/16/19 11:12 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

We should kick it and blow shit up sometime


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: ballsalsa]
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: koods]
    #26257322 - 10/17/19 12:26 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Nice


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26258299 - 10/17/19 11:18 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

why do cops shoot first?


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #26262539 - 10/19/19 08:11 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

That comment made no sense to me either.  A majority of cops, I think I last read like 92% polled, support civilians right to keep and bear arms.  I still think Beto just damned the gun control movement and keeps fucking up more and more weekly so I am happy.  The NRA is running wild with his comments its great.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #26262647 - 10/19/19 09:17 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I hate how they rant about assault rifles because we don't fucking have those. Assault rifles are fully automatic weapons and they've been illegal since the 1980's. The problem is that half of the public don't know anything about guns so when a presidential candidate rants about assault weapons they just automatically believe them. In reality we don't even have them and the rifles that we do have are almost never used in shootings. Then they say they're more dangerous because of how many bullets they hold. Handguns hold around 15 rounds and you can buy magazines that hold far more! Handguns are easier to use indoors and are used far more often in mass shootings. There's other legal guns more powerful than the ar-15. Another thing these left wing candidates rant about is background checks. We already have extremely strict background checks! They're literally making shit up!!! So we don't have FUCKING assault weapons and we already have FUCKING background checks you fucking dumb bastards!!! People are so fucking stupid that it scares the shit out of me.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26262658 - 10/19/19 09:21 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Assault weapons are clearly defined in laws that ban them. If you are confused about what an assault weapon is under the law, feel free to read any of the number of state laws that ban them. Look back at the federal law that banned assault weapons.  Your layman understanding of what an assault weapon is is irrelevant.


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