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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves]
#26199069 - 09/20/19 11:08 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm just saying, everyone stays safer when people take the time to properly store their weapons.
If that is such a concern for you, it sounds like home security is the problem, not the thirty seconds it takes to get a gun out of a safe.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves]
#26199070 - 09/20/19 11:08 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I never said my home wasn't secure.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Herbologist]
#26199072 - 09/20/19 11:09 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: I never said my home wasn't secure.
If it was secure you wouldn't be thinking about how long it takes you to get your guns out.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Herbologist]
#26199073 - 09/20/19 11:09 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because statistically youre more likely to shoot a family member than a robber or murderer. So I mean thats up to you but I hope you tell family and friends that youre on edge and ready to shoot at any moment.
Statistics by gun groups say shouting “I have a gun” is good enough for the vast majority of cases.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves] 2
#26199074 - 09/20/19 11:09 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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What are you even trying to argue here waves? Do you live in a castle on an island off the coast? I guarantee, no matter how much bullshit you have on and around your home, if someone wants in, they will come knock a window in, your home is never secure, even celebrities with that sort of money get robbed.
If Herb is home when it happens, he can kill intruders, just like someone just dropped 3 burglars this week with a firearm in Georgia.
If you break into a home to steal shit, this is the gamble you take, my property is worth your life and I dunno what the fuck you have in your pockets.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/17/us/georgia-teen-would-be-robbers-shot/index.html
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: StygianKnight] 3
#26199075 - 09/20/19 11:11 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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StygianKnight said: Because statistically youre more likely to shoot a family member than a robber or murderer. So I mean thats up to you but I hope you tell family and friends that youre on edge and ready to shoot at any moment.
Statistics by gun groups say shouting “I have a gun” is good enough for the vast majority of cases.

You're a walking CNN article.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
#26199078 - 09/20/19 11:11 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: What are you even trying to argue here waves? Do you live in a castle on an island off the coast? I guarantee, no matter how much bullshit you have on and around your home, if someone wants in, they will come knock a window in, your home is never secure, even celebrities with that sort of money get robbed.
If Herb is home when it happens, he can kill intruders, just like someone just dropped 3 burglars this week with a firearm in Georgia.
If you break into a home to steal shit, this is the gamble you take, my property is worth your life and I dunno what the fuck you have in your pockets.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/17/us/georgia-teen-would-be-robbers-shot/index.html
Exactly.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: StygianKnight] 1
#26199082 - 09/20/19 11:12 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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StygianKnight said: statistically youre more likely to shoot a family member than a robber or murderer.

A very important point that few gun owners consider.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
#26199083 - 09/20/19 11:12 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: What are you even trying to argue here waves? Do you live in a castle on an island off the coast? I guarantee, no matter how much bullshit you have on and around your home, if someone wants in, they will come knock a window in, your home is never secure, even celebrities with that sort of money get robbed.
If Herb is home when it happens, he can kill intruders, just like someone just dropped 3 burglars this week with a firearm in Georgia.
If you break into a home to steal shit, this is the gamble you take, my property is worth your life.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/17/us/georgia-teen-would-be-robbers-shot/index.html
I don't want to get into too much detail, but I live in a normal house in a normal neighborhood.
My windows have 3 separate locking mechanisms, so somebody would have to break the window.
If I hear a window breaking, I'm going to have plenty of time to get my gun before they manage to get through it.
Likewise, if I hear somebody trying to beat my door down, I'm going to have enough time to get my gun before they manage to get through it.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves]
#26199087 - 09/20/19 11:14 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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IF you hear them, you mean.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves]
#26199090 - 09/20/19 11:17 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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It wouldn't be possible to get inside my house without making a ton of noise.
Even if they have one of those battering rams that the cops use, my doors are super thick and have multiple locks, so it would be quite a bit of noise.
All I'm saying is, if you want some piece of mind, consider doing more to prevent people from getting inside in the first place.
Besides locks, I also like to keep these on my doors, just as an added measure of security: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Master-Lock-Door-Bar-265D-Adjustable-Door-Security-Bar/21802111?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=130&adid=22222222227016958538&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=51770986271&wl4=pla-83188897511&wl5=9002293&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=21802111&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI04bCjPTf5AIVjODICh05Cw-qEAQYAyABEgLm-PD_BwE (Obviously a battering ram would take that out in a second, but we don't hear about that many burglars using battering rams, do we?)
It takes 30 seconds to get a gun out of a safe, man.
Just saying, a little added security goes a long way.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves] 1
#26199102 - 09/20/19 11:22 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yet celebrities homes still get robbed yet you think your home is secure. It is not. No one's home is, locks keep honest people out, no one is saying leave unlocked weapons sitting on your kitchen table so a dipshit breaks in and makes off with it but you... are arguing some very strange garbage here and if someone wants into your house, a cinderblock and a nice jumpsuit is all they need, that is why it's good to have your weapons secure and one handy. This is how a vast majority of people I know are with their firearms.
Fuck around and find out mentality.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
#26199104 - 09/20/19 11:23 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Yet celebrities homes still get robbed yet you think your home is secure.
What does that have to do with anything?
The bigger the home, the more vulnerabilities it has.
I seriously doubt most celebrity home are very secure, probably just as secure or less secure than the average home.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves]
#26199108 - 09/20/19 11:25 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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What kind of gun safes are you people using?
I just can't imagine what kind of safe takes more than 30 seconds to open (probably less even)
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
#26199119 - 09/20/19 11:31 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: This is how a vast majority of people I know are with their firearms.
...and your point is?
A majority of Americans overweight, does that mean its best practice to be overweight?
BTW, even if they throw a cinder block through my window and climb through with a jumpsuit on or whatever you are imagining(which would set off the alarm AND the noise from the window breaking alone would wake me up) they would still have to come upstairs and bust down my locked bedroom door.
I would definitely have plenty of time...
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves]
#26199121 - 09/20/19 11:33 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just think if you are that concerned about quick access to your guns, you need to either get a new safe that is easier to access, or you need to do a better job of securing your home.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves]
#26199298 - 09/20/19 12:50 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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So this dude is in his house 24/7? Be pretty easy for a burglar to steal his unsecured weapons when he’s not there...which is when most burglars strike.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Herbologist]
#26199395 - 09/20/19 01:34 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I keep a loaded handgun, unsecured, out of sight in my kitchen 24/7/365.
Everyone for a couple miles in every direction knows me as the slightly off kilter, antisocial weirdo who never gets unannounced visitors. As such, I'm not worried about home invaders while I'm at home and if someone breaks in while I'm not there it's highly unlikely they find the two weapons I have at the ready. (the other is in my bedroom and is, again, loaded but out of sight in a hidden but quick-release system I macgyver-ed for myself...I have a small, one story house so in the incredibly unlikely situation where someone breaks in while I'm there, I would have very, very little time to arm myself...but that's not something I think about except right now)
The kitchen weapon is kept ready because I often only have seconds before losing one or more of my stock, especially this time of year. During the period around 24 AUG to about 15 NOV, mommas and daddies predator (fox, coyote, raccoon, possum, etc) are fattening for winter as well as teaching the babies they birthed this past spring how to hunt for themselves. I invest too much time, effort, and money to show my belly to predators.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Herbologist]
#26199416 - 09/20/19 01:47 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: That's what this whole forum does, assume without further knowledge.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26199683 - 09/20/19 04:18 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow I had a lot of fun reading that up until I realised that there was something like 25 posts of back and forth between 2 or 3 people. But I left off at safes being ineffectual, and wanting to shoot your family members. Please if you have murderous/suicidal feelings, go join your local democratic-socialist club so you can be properly cataloged . I personally keep my gun/s hidden, I might reach up into a chandelier and blast you with a 9mm, or reach into a umbrella stand and come out with a mosburg if you enter my home uninvited or with malicious intent, not to say I would use such a commonplace spot, maybe I have a hole in the wall, containing a semi auto dry walled over and paint matched - you think I am punching my wall in frustration at my family being robbed or raped, now your dead. Some of my gun owning friends have safes, some leave them around like toys in a nursery and some hide them. One constant is that most legal owners are fairly responsible with them. For example this video https://www.facebook.com/Braddy478/videos/546433209428217/ just some arguments. Just kidding I don't have guns; All information contained in this post is purely fictional, even the video, thats some hollywood shit.
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