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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #26198640 - 09/20/19 03:36 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Colt just announced they are stopping production of AR-15s: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/19/business/colt-ar15/index.html

Do u support or not?

How will this affect future mass shooting incidents? Will AR-15s still be used just as much?

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26198656 - 09/20/19 04:27 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Colt isn't what it used to be. If I was the least bit interested in buying an AR-15 it would not be a Colt anyway. There are a bazillion other better choices.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #26198774 - 09/20/19 06:43 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
Lol.

I remember several gun manufacturers almost going bankrupt when donald won because nobody was buying up their paranoid prepper overstock.



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Which ones almost went bankrupt?




Not sure if anybody already answered this, but I know Remington is one that did actually file for bankruptcy after Trump won.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-remington-bankruptcy/us-gunmaker-remington-exits-bankruptcy-in-tough-gun-climate-idUSKCN1II24T


United Sporting Companies also filed for bankruptcy
U.S. firearms distributor files bankruptcy as gun sales fall under Trump


Colt also filed for bankruptcy in 2015 (but that was before Trump was elected)
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/071315/why-colt-went-out-business.asp


Times are definitely tough for gun manufacturers, the demand doesn't really seem to be there

Edited by waves (09/20/19 07:01 AM)

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: waves]
    #26198800 - 09/20/19 07:19 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Those lobbying fees are really getting burdensome.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: christopera]
    #26198851 - 09/20/19 08:04 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I laughed pretty good at "we're gonna tqake your AR15 and your AK47...."
Like, aayo, bitch you know only like a couple thousand AK47's even exist in america, there are lots of AK based variants, all semi auto, mostly 223 or 556, but the model 1947 Kalashnikov chambered 762 select fire is highly regulated by the FED, that like saying "we're gonna take your tommy gun" a full auto sub machine gun (shoots a lot real fast) in 45 cal, or we're gonna take your mac 10, (same thing but in 9mm and in pistol format)
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AK stuff

Something the dems don't understand is that a lot of people who own these kinds of very heavy artillery weapons are kept in gunsafes, most gunsafes need to be blown up to gain access to the contents, So how the FUCK are the criminals gonna get to them???

I think all the gun producers can stop making things and all the stores can stop selling them till we're all a bunch of knife wielding cucks, aint gonna change a damn thing.
Still plenty of shootings in japan, austraillia and london, people just smuggle them in from other countries.

And really, if you wanna stop mass killings, start with shotguns, I can do far more damage to human bodies with a box of 12g and a good old mosburg. Rig the shots and you can cut 3" holes right through torso's all day long.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26198856 - 09/20/19 08:10 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Colt just announced they are stopping production of AR-15s: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/19/business/colt-ar15/index.html

Do u support or not?

How will this affect future mass shooting incidents? Will AR-15s still be used just as much?




It won't affect anything, what we are witnessing I believe is similar to the alcohol industry and micro-brewerys, this goes for Remington too.  There are now so many options and companies out there that Colt got pushed out of the AR-15 market, they even said it's to focus on their handguns and apparently if you WANT a colt AR, they will make it for you still. 

Sons of Liberty Gun Works, BCM, Geissele, Noveske, Aero and etc are selling lots of high end lowers and uppers and I believe that's where a lot of the market is now.  More and more people are no longer just walking into gun stores and buying a rifle but building them piece by piece, it's cheaper, and you get a custom rifle you custom built.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #26198865 - 09/20/19 08:18 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Odd that a gun stands for liberty to many more than mind transcending plants.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26198877 - 09/20/19 08:30 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I also love the fact that Beto finally came out and shot the democrats in the foot, the NRA will be running his "Hell Yes we are going to take your AR-15's and Ak-47!" video for years and years.  The only way these people will ever get most of these weapons is if they kick of the next civil war lol.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #26198893 - 09/20/19 08:47 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

There is no way anybody is building a gun for themselves for less than you can buy, not if they are being truthful about the investment. I own a machine shop and I could build just about any gun I wanted, I could even do it for what I might consider (in some twisted feat of accounting) fairly cheap. But I have tens of thousands of dollars of machine tools, tooling, measuring equipment, software, etc. to get myself to this point. Enter my time and then add on the cost materials and the price would be exorbitant. When I make parts for customers I charge $115 and hour just to turn the lights on, and I'm on the cheap side compared to most places. That doesn't even take into account time for fixturing, design time, R&D, etc.. I am way better off machining what I know how to machine and just buy a gun from a company with expertise in that field.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: christopera] * 1
    #26198902 - 09/20/19 09:01 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Huh?  I meant buy part by part, not machine your entire own weapon thus avoiding having to buy a $1000 rifle and then drop more money on a new hand guard, buttstock, barrel and so on.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: drege]
    #26198992 - 09/20/19 10:23 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I find it funny that gun people get their knickers in a twist over someone saying “AK-47” instead of “Ak Variant” while also being perfectly fine with fudged statements like “many gun owners” or “Some gun owners...”

Like if you are such a stickler for accuracy, exactly how many gun owners consistently keep their weapons in a truly pick proof/resistant heavy metal safe?  Exact numbers please. 

(Also if most gun owners keep them locked away, then they should have no problem being forced to keep their weapons at the shooting range.)

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: PreparationH]
    #26199003 - 09/20/19 10:29 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Police have armored vehicles, drones, bombs and bulldozers.  If they really want peoples guns they can take them with no trouble.  The idea that guns will protect you from the government, or that the government is actually scared of gun owners is hilarious.

Both the government and gun owners support keeping weapons that could hurt a serious police response like RPGs and compact explosives illegal and controlled. 

The reality of the situation is the government is only fine with people owning weapons they can use on other citizens, so you stay scared and afraid of each other, and they can take your money for their personal hoard.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: StygianKnight] * 2
    #26199026 - 09/20/19 10:44 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Having ALL your guns in a such a ridiculous safe is useless.

My guns are where I can access them FAST..  Not in 5 minutes.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #26199042 - 09/20/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

So stored improperly but easy to steal or shoot a family member.  Cool.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: StygianKnight] * 3
    #26199045 - 09/20/19 10:56 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe for you.

If shooting a family members comes across your mind maybe you shouldn't own a gun.


I, however, would defend my family.  Sorry to burst your bubble.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Herbologist]
    #26199051 - 09/20/19 10:58 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Having ALL your guns in a such a ridiculous safe is useless.

My guns are where I can access them FAST..  Not in 5 minutes.




Just a thought...

If you are so worried about your safety that you can't properly secure your weapons because you need FAST access, maybe you need to spend some money better securing your home.

If your home was more secure, you wouldn't have to worry about having FAST access to your guns, and you could lock them up properly.

This would make you more safe, as well as everyone else.

Just a super crazy, far out thought.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves] * 1
    #26199052 - 09/20/19 10:59 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

You're assuming my home isn't secure.

That's what this whole forum does, assume without further knowledge.

I keep my guns where I keep them and thats where they'll stay.


I never even said they weren't hidden or could be found easily by intruders.  Yet, you assumed.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #26199055 - 09/20/19 11:01 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
You're assuming my home isn't secure.

That's what this whole forum does, assume without further knowledge.

I keep my guns where I keep them and thats where they'll stay.




If your home is secure, then why do you need such fast access to your guns?

Apparently it's not that secure, because you seem to be pretty concerned with somebody getting into your house before you can get your guns.

I'm a gun owner btw, so not trying to attack you.

It seems like a legitimate point to me, though...


Since I feel safe in my home, the thought of "how long will it take me to get my guns out to shoot an intruder" never even crosses my mind.

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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: waves]
    #26199059 - 09/20/19 11:03 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Why wouldn't I want fast access?

Even if i have 10 guns in a safe, I am still going to have one that I can acquire quickly.


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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. [Re: Herbologist]
    #26199065 - 09/20/19 11:05 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Why wouldn't I want fast access?





I don't know, why wouldn't you want your home to be more secure?

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