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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26097100 - 07/08/19 10:10 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are apparently ways to do it by twisting a wire hanger up a certain way or some shit, probably have to do other stuff too, I never looked enough into it, dont want the ATF shooting my dog so...
O and 3d print technology I could see eventually ending this debate completely.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26097107 - 07/08/19 10:13 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think it's a little more complex than that - for instance, the penetration from 12ga buckshot or something similar is plenty enough to penetrate to vital organs, and due to the spread is statistically a higher % to do so, while a rifle round statistically may have a higher chance of passing through you missing vital organs.
The more streamlined a bullet - the higher its aerodynamic performance, however similarly can lead to tissues also behaving similarly to 'flow' around the edges of the bullet.
I think we all know hollowpoints/flat points cause more tissue damage, and are many times more deadly than more aerodynamic, higher penetration rounds. So it's not necessarily all speed.
Also; kinda bad physics cause koods forgot to the relative mass of the ammo
Here's from Winchester:

As you can see, a 12ga will lay just about literally anything out.
And yeah, a 5.56 is still a 5.56 so its a fairly moot argument as far hinges on killing power.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26097113 - 07/08/19 10:15 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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They are rare, you are looking at around $20,000 through a gun broker if you can find them. Yes, some basic gunsmithing skills can convert to fully auto....those who choose so are idots as it make no sense tactically speaking, automatic weapons are more effective for *EDIT* direct fire (suppressive fire)on the battlefield.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: SirTripAlot]
#26097114 - 07/08/19 10:18 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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So automatic weapons are impossible to aim at full-auto fire?
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26097118 - 07/08/19 10:21 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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No. But you will kill more with well aimed shots..... unless you find yourself in an elevated position, auto helps.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: SirTripAlot]
#26097504 - 07/09/19 05:56 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Part of the devastating effect of the FMJ 5.56 round is that it tumbles end over end verrry quickly upon entering a medium like human flesh compared to its predecessors, the .30-06 & .308.
In complying with the Hague accord of 1899, the new 5.56 round (at the time of the Vietnam war) could not be employed in a hollow or soft point design, but had to be a penetrating design. Because of this you get that tumbling effect rather than extreme mushrooming or fragmentation.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: relic]
#26100952 - 07/10/19 07:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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https://myfox8.com/2019/07/09/nics-firearm-background-checks-surpass-2-million-every-month-for-first-6-months-of-2019/
12 million checks in 6 months, I wonder how many guns sold. Gotta pump those numbers up lol.
You guys see the Virginia stuff with Gov. Northam?
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: PreparationH]
#26101303 - 07/10/19 10:52 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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So how do u feel about background checks? A good thing? Waste of time? Too restrictive or the right thing to do for gun owners?
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26101373 - 07/10/19 11:54 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Background checks to purchase a firearm do not bother me but I also shouldn't HAVE to have my family background checked in order to give them a gun or not be able to lend a weapon to a friend after they move out on their own which I have done while that friend saved for their first weapon. Background checks to purchase ammo is retarded, hopefully that stays in California.
I was offered to buy a handgun when I was a teen too so my perspective on it is: if I was able to purchase a gun underage on the black market, it must not be that hard to do now for adult criminals.
Keeping weapons out of the wrong hands is obviously a priority to any sane person but when it starts hindering people that aren't a threat to society it's just goofy and that's the thing about the Cali ammo stuff going on. People are going to Nevada and bringing ammo in, which is a misdemeanor too so they are breaking the law whether they know it or not, and if a criminal already has access to a firearm, they won't have issue finding bullets lol so it becomes another hurdle for people that are not a danger to society...
Also, I work in an environment where we are all background checked, why should I not be able to sell my coworker a gun? I know they have no crimes stopping them from a gun purchase and if gun ownership is a right... well the government also should not have a say in the property I sell, it's not a privilege 
I would NEVER give a weapon to a stranger without having them checked in the NICS system though, in my opinion that is just dangerously stupid.
Gun show loophole and etc... I know the statistics and how few of those weapons are used in crimes but NICS is like $2 to run and some states it's free, I could not sleep at night just selling guns to people that have not been approved.
Finally... this is a mushroom cultivation website, some people here have gotten jammed up cultivating and are felons... Should their second amendment right disappear? No way, the war on drugs is such a sham it's sad.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: PreparationH]
#26101789 - 07/11/19 08:38 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's illegal for a large group of people to own ammo. 10% of America (and growing) are felons. Then there is anyone who's been pink slipped. Plus in some areas people who've had a domestic violence charge. Also anyone with a protection order (which are handed out like candy). If you use drugs/alcohol you are also at risk of being disabled under the weapons laws.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: PreparationH] 2
#26102057 - 07/11/19 11:20 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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While gun ownership might not be a privilege, the gov regulates and restricts peoples' rights all the time so that part of your argument rings hollow, IMO.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: relic]
#26102111 - 07/11/19 11:47 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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And we do not need more restrictions like banning AR-15s
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: relic]
#26102120 - 07/11/19 11:51 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was with a family member a couple weeks ago who was denied when trying to buy a rifle.
Background check went through, got denied and he couldnt purchase it. I also could not purchase a rifle that day due to being with him at the time (even as a CCW holder).
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: Herbologist] 2
#26184660 - 09/12/19 06:12 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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This debate blows already. More "free" shit, ban guns, orange man bad.
I honestly think we are going to watch Trump win again which I am glad about, but at the end of the day, The USA deserves better than these fucktards and Trump. Sucks.
Edited by PreparationH (09/12/19 06:21 PM)
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: PreparationH]
#26184704 - 09/12/19 06:33 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: Citizen X] 1
#26186292 - 09/13/19 04:07 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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The 2nd was intended for muskets. They didn't have the hardware available today. Life was incomparable then to today.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: Morel Guy] 2
#26189156 - 09/15/19 03:58 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: The 2nd was intended for muskets. They didn't have the hardware available today. Life was incomparable then to today.
And we no longer use printing presses, but computers and smart phones. It's amazing that technology evolves, huh?
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26189386 - 09/15/19 09:30 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Loaded Shaman said:
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Morel Guy said: The 2nd was intended for muskets. They didn't have the hardware available today. Life was incomparable then to today.
And we no longer use printing presses, but computers and smart phones. It's amazing that technology evolves, huh?
Morel guy is unaware that there were semiautos available at the times. As well as repeaters.
Lewis and Clark used one of the first semiautos on their expedition.
I guess that just doesn't fit his narrative.
Indeed, the 2A is not compatible with leftist culture.
But they love making movies about heroes who use guns to save the day.
Hypocrisy.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: XUL]
#26189405 - 09/15/19 09:43 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lewis and Clark used semi-automatic weapons on their expedition in 1804-1806?
Oh please, do bring me some proof on that. And not the same kind of proof that you couldn't produce over at the Tommy "King of the circle jerk" Robinson thread.
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Re: The second amendment is not compatible with the Democratic party. (moved) [Re: christopera]
#26189468 - 09/15/19 10:21 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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christopera said: Lewis and Clark used semi-automatic weapons on their expedition in 1804-1806?
Oh please, do bring me some proof on that. And not the same kind of proof that you couldn't produce over at the Tommy "King of the circle jerk" Robinson thread.
You are a prime example of why the 2A is not compatible with leftists.
You don't even know ow about the things you so badly want to ban.
Girandoni system Austrian repeating air rifle
One of the rifle's more famous associations is its use on the Lewis and Clark Expedition to explore and map the western part of North America in the early 1800s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle
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