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Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD?
    #2607208 - 04/27/04 05:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Spooge]
    #2607220 - 04/27/04 05:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think that he denounced LSD once. I can't remember where I read that.


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2607250 - 04/27/04 06:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Really? I'd like to know more. Anyone else have anything on this?


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Spooge]
    #2607267 - 04/27/04 06:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I leant my copy of Food of the Gods to a friend but I definitely remember him being against, to some extent at least, synthetics such as LSD, synthesized DMT, and so on...

I'll get the book back tomorrow and post a quote for you.


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Spooge]
    #2607273 - 04/27/04 06:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I found it.

I read it in "The Archaic Revival - Speculations on Psychedelic Mushrooms, the Amazon, Virtual Reality, UFOs, Evolution, Shamanism, the Rebirth of the Goddess, and the End of History" byTerence McKenna


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Krishna]
    #2607291 - 04/27/04 06:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Spooge]
    #2607308 - 04/27/04 06:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

maybe he likes extracted? and yeah i dont think mckenna is by any means a fan of lsd. hes deffinately not a recreational drug user and thats what i find lsd to be. i never get spiritual with the lsd molecule, shrooms and dpt are mine though.


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Trip]
    #2607343 - 04/27/04 06:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

huh? extracted? I guess I'm not knowledgable about dmt. From what I thought I knew, the only smokable version for the powerful dmt trip, is that orange type crystal(made in a lab).


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Spooge]
    #2607370 - 04/27/04 06:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

In an interview with Jay Levin, McKenna said this, "When I was young I would take LSD once a month or so, but I wasn't that crazy aboutit. I found it abrasively psychoanalytical, and I found it very hard to hallucinate. My interest in mysticism, art, and that sort of thing had caused me to put a very high premium on hallucination.",
and later when asked about heroic dosages for certain psychedelics he said, "Well, I can give it to you in a nutshell. There are three questions that you should ask yourself about a drug that you're considering taking. Number one, does it occur naturally in a plant or an animal? Because nature has use-tested these compounds over millions and millions of years. Something that came out of the laboratory four or five years ago--who knows? So it should be a product of the natural world. Number two, does it have a history of human usage? Mushrooms do. Mescaline does. LSD doesn't. Ecstacy doesn't. And number three, and most important, it should have some affinity to brain chemistry. It shouldn't be just like landing on the moon; it should be related to what is driving ordinary consciousness. This last criteria is the most narrow, because mescaline won't get through that. LSD won't get through that......."

There's more to that paragrah but my fingers are tired and I can't type worth a crap anyways.


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Spooge]
    #2607414 - 04/27/04 06:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've heard that he had never tried LSD, but on my "Alien Dreamtime" cd, he talks about his first experience with DMT. He said something to the effect of "since I was a graduate of Mr. Hofmann's........".

I take that to mean that he had used LSD. Unless he meant Hofmann's sythesis of psilocybin.






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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2607426 - 04/27/04 06:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

interesting stuff ekstaza, and yes dmt can be extracted. its a chemical in dozens of plants in south america from barks to grass and is used by them for spiritual rituals. go to erowid and look up ayahuasca.


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Learyfan]
    #2607438 - 04/27/04 06:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

In that interview with Jay Levin, Terence McKenna said that he probably had taken LSD over 150 times.


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2607486 - 04/27/04 07:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Trip]
    #2607502 - 04/27/04 07:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Spooge]
    #2607511 - 04/27/04 07:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yeah i agree...lsd gives me way more hallucinations. Although if you take enough shrooms and DMT and shit you will be tlaking to aliens....on lsd you would just "die" or something. LSD my hallucinations have more to do with my suroundings and sutff....mushrooms have nothing to do with whats around me really....there from across the universe. So mabey thats what he thinks of a hallucination.


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Vulture]
    #2607608 - 04/27/04 07:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

good point. I do agree with him on how lsd makes me psychoanalytical(sp?).

But with my experience, I do have to say I find myself to be "happier" on lsd. I have never ingested huge doses mind you, but anytime I've been on lsd, nothing can go wrong. Everything is beautiful, happy, etc.

Don't get me wrong, mushrooms are the same for me most of the time too. But for me...I realize there is a "darker side", so to say, to them. I don't fuck with mushroom. And from the doses of lsd I've taken, I could care less.


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Spooge]
    #2607670 - 04/27/04 07:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yeha dont fuck witht he mushroom....take 10 grams and you will know what i mean.

on doses im completly content


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Vulture]
    #2607684 - 04/27/04 07:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

haha crazy.  I imagine I have an idea.  I took 4 grams(dried) of some very thick, very blue mushrooms for my first psychedelic experience ever.  I don't know what kind they were, but lots of people were ranting about them for over a year.  And then the guy who was selling them, dissapeared.  too bad.

But yeah, that first time was absoulutley insane...in a good way  :mushroom2:


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Vulture]
    #2607708 - 04/27/04 07:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Once again, every chemical effects everybody in different ways.


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Re: Terence Mckenna's stance on LSD? [Re: Spooge]
    #2607841 - 04/27/04 08:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

entityexperiment said:
I don't mean to relentless try to put down all ideas...I guess I'm anaylitical(sp?) by nature.





Question everything. Personally I've had a hard time reading that book. I once thought of Terence McKenna as some sort of revolutionary thinker and pioneer of psychedelia, but the more I read in that book the more he just seems like he's lost it. I find a lot of the things he says very kooky and off the wall.

Now I'm going to go down into my cellar to await the storming of my door. To all of those that like his thoughts and teachings, I apologize for thinking bad of them. Oh well.


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