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Capsule filling machine mastery 24
#26071109 - 06/24/19 01:30 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Filling Bulk Capsulesedit 3/29/23 I realized yesterday that the prongs on the tampers are different sizes for every different machine. I have always thought the prongs were annoyingly narrow but found out yesterday, the size 000 tamper works for all sizes. its muvh fatter and subsequently faster. If you are going to be making a ton of pills, I think it would honestly be worth it to buy the entire 000 machine just to have the tamper. (assuming youre using the same company for both machines) The company who makes my machine (ALL-in capsule™️) will sell you just the tamper. (or any other replacement parts) edit: weight data for all sizes at the bottom of this thread. disregard any other data i may have posted elsewhere in this thread. Ive gotten more efficient at using the machine and sibsequently the data has changed and become much more consistent. If youve ever filled pills by hand, you know its tedious and slow. I bought a 00 cap filler and took the time to master it. Like anything else, you always learn the right way to do it in the last ten minutes. after processing around 5k capsules, i know the right way. you can save some time by reading this as the instructions for the machine are brief and somewhat confusing as this is a chinese product. moreover, mushrooms tend to be chunky and theres some steps that should mitigate any issues this will cause. Its a great way to store mushrooms long-term and the doses are fairly consistent at ~ .5g per capsule at a 00 size. for me, my pe variant is brutal potent so this is a perfect starter dose. (note: capsule weight is .10g) -------------------------------- ------
The Machine
lets jump into it. i wont name the brand of machine i got, but im very happy with it. im sure you can find it just as easily as i did. it runs around $20usd. makes 100 at a time.

Other things that make this a lot easier
1. a grinder. not a coffee grinder. too slow and it frankly does a shit job. i use a magic bullet:

2. a fine paintbrush. they are cheap.

3. 4 empty clean sterilite shoebox tubs. perhaps youve heard of them? perhaps you have several hundred laying around?
4. empty clean jars. maybe you have a couple extra?
5. beer.
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Parts List
lets go over the parts real quick so you know what im talking about when im talking about it.
1. bottom capsule plate. (bottom plate) (the main body of the machine with springloaded assembly) 
2. plate filling jig. (plate filler) this thing fills both the top and bottom plates with the capsule halves.

3. top capsule plate. (top plate) 
4. flipper. (flipper) it holds the top capsule halves in place when you flip the top plate over.

5. capsule filling jig. (powder jig) 
6. powder scraper. (scraper)

7. tamper. (tamper)

8. the capsules. lets establish now that the bottom of the capsule is the longer male end, and the top is the shorter female end. 00 size only for this machine.
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process
Two major steps before you can fill any caps:
A: Grinding. fill the grinder to the top and shake it as you grind. get it just as powder fine as you can. hold the grinder at an angle and it tends to cyclone. carefully transfer it to an empty jar.
B: Separating the capsules into two different tubs. tops in one, bottoms in the other--no exceptions. heres where the beer comes in handy. focus and you can get pretty good at this.
The rest is remarkably fun, quick, and easy. so here we go:
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1. Load the plates with cap halves. use the plate filler and pour handfuls of caps onto each respective plate. it does a very accurate job if everything is clean. hold the assemblies over the respective tubs so the excess falls off into the tub. take the filler off to inspect the plates. if any are missing or upside-down, fix it. to inspect and fix the bottom plate, you will need to depress the plate with your thumbs
 this parts easier done than said. just get both plates loaded with cap ends correctly.
 --------- 2. fill the bottom plate with material assuming you did the last part right, put the bottom plate (with powder jig) into an empty tub and pour some mushrooms or grandmas ashes or whatever on there. scrape it around with the scraper until all the caps look full. brush off the excess.
 use the tamper. dont be afraid to press hard and wiggle a little.
 keep adding material, scraping and tamping until they feel "snuggly full" and brush the bottom plate clean. it should look about like this:
 ---------- 3. pressing the capsules. Put the flipper on the top plate, grooves up. notice the two grooves on either side. pinch the top plate and flipper together and flip them over. place this assembly on top of the bottom plate.
 place the entire assembly on a firm desk and press using both hands, hard. you should feel a "pop" as you press the caps together.
edit: you should wiggle a little as you press and seat them. i find i get far fewer "crunchers" that way. all your pills will be in the flipper.

Check them.
If they arent clicked together, you didnt press hard enough. if you heard a crunching sound and have a couple broken pills, it means that your bottom plate wasnt clean enough. if you didnt grind enough, chunks can overlap the bottom plate openings which will tear the capsule.
Get into a rhythm. drink beer. listen to tunes. i belted out more than a lb of capsules in about 4 hours. thats minus cap weight. store them with desiccant so the pills dont stick together.

❤️beef
edit 1/7/23.
Heres some pics of my method of making small batches. Do the math, figure out how many pills you can make, cut a paper template and scotch tape it to the frame. easy peasy. I uses a drill bit to pack them individually.
edit. 3//29/23 i actually think the template is a waste of time. use it only to fill the lower plate with empty capsuls. dont bother taping it down real well.
now take the paper template off and USE THE TAMPER. fuck the drill bit that shits tedious.
edit: I also realized yesterday that my technique for making partial batches is kind of lame. The paper template is fine for getting the capsules in the right holes, but after that, it serves no purpose other than slowing you down and making it impossible to use the tamper. Just take it off and fill the capsules as you normally would. Of course, some powser will fall through the empty holes and that's fine. See, now you can just use the normal tamper rather than the drill bit.
I actually think it's easier to just fill the entire plate with capsules, then using a piece of cardboard, cover the holes that you want to keep and dump what you don't want out if that makes sense. for really small batches its probably faster to just fill the plates by hand.

ALSO
I now have the following sizes of machines and will add the data for them as I gather it:
000: .9h minus .1g capsule weight 00: .5g total minus .1g capsule weight. 0: .35g total minus .85g capsule weight 1: .25 total minus .8g capsule weight.
also, mr shrimps has gathered some nice data regarding size 1 capsules tampered and untampered:
between .23-.25 g tamped (consistent with my measurements)
between .18-.19 g untamped. minus the .8g capsule weight that gives you a nice even 100mg dose per capsule. the perfect micro.
thanks for that work shrimps. i love you.
Edited by BeefSupremeJr (03/29/23 06:18 PM)
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Nice write-up Beef! I was looking into getting one of these, been watching the demo vids. I like them for micros, and by hand I get them around .15 (idk size of my caps, were gifted to me)
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: Camera93] 1
#26071124 - 06/24/19 01:41 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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sounds like you have 0 size caps. i get consistently .51g caps with a .11 cap weight so they have approximately .2g of mushrooms each. the videos are kindof annoying and deal primarily with fine powders. the pictures i used show dmae, a dietary supplement that tastes like stomach bile so i put it in caps.
Edited by BeefSupremeJr (02/07/23 01:54 AM)
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: BeefSupremeJr] 1
#26071156 - 06/24/19 02:01 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bookmarked.
Perfectly executed
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: Yesum] 1
#26071198 - 06/24/19 02:25 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice job, A++
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: Crackatoa] 1
#26071211 - 06/24/19 02:32 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Niiiiiiiice!!
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: Crackatoa] 1
#26071215 - 06/24/19 02:35 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Much easier to read than the instructions that came with mine
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: badsponge] 1
#26071347 - 06/24/19 03:43 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Killed it I just received a capsule machine a couple of days ago so this very helpful
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: SFS96] 1
#26071363 - 06/24/19 03:50 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: van hatton]
#26071689 - 06/24/19 06:34 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks Beef
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Wow.. Great write up. This is just what I need.
Thanks.
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: Matty_Rulez] 1
#26071778 - 06/24/19 07:48 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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.thanks Beef! I got one of these a month ago and still haven’t tried it so this is great timing. Can’t wait to use it.
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: SunnyDayze] 2
#26071919 - 06/24/19 09:27 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
SunnyDayze said: .thanks Beef! I got one of these a month ago and still haven’t tried it so this is great timing. Can’t wait to use it.
i actually had it for months too. i watched a few videos and it seemed daunting. a friend of mine, a medical professional took it home and sorted it out. once i was able to see the process, i was able to improve the process in terms of efficiency and speed.
show the world.
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How well do these work as supositories for when your mouth isn't available?
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: nulls] 1
#26072231 - 06/25/19 01:57 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love suppositories.
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Quote:
BeefSupremeJr said:
B: Separate the capsules into two different tubs. tops in one, bottoms in the other--no exceptions. heres where the beer comes in handy. focus and you can get pretty good at this.
Did you know you can buy separated capsules so you don't have to painstakingly separate each one?
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: Hobbyist]
#26072495 - 06/25/19 07:46 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Hobbyist said:
Quote:
BeefSupremeJr said:
B: Separate the capsules into two different tubs. tops in one, bottoms in the other--no exceptions. heres where the beer comes in handy. focus and you can get pretty good at this.
Did you know you can buy separated capsules so you don't have to painstakingly separate each one?
no i did not
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: nulls]
#26072498 - 06/25/19 07:46 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
nulls said: How well do these work as supositories for when your mouth isn't available?
its been brought up. theoretically, it should work.
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Excellent post & thank you! Saw these machines on ebay and was contemplating getting one. I think you just tipped the scales for the decision. This makes microdosing super easy & convenient. Also regular dosing too, not to mention consistent. Love your thread!
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Re: Capsule filling machine mastery [Re: 1WithU]
#26072887 - 06/25/19 12:07 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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1WithU said: Excellent post & thank you! Saw these machines on ebay and was contemplating getting one. I think you just tipped the scales for the decision. This makes microdosing super easy & convenient. Also regular dosing too, not to mention consistent. Love your thread!
thanks to you and everyone else for the support. Im sorry the formatting is shit, im really not great with html. Im trying to make slow improvements.
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