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MeanGreen
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Looking great PD! Those are the minima? I'll post a pic of my sinica tomorrow, it's getting pretty big. I've been wondering the same thing about overwintering outdoors but I haven't risked it yet. I have multiple E. fragilis I guess I could try it with one. Maybe next year I'll try to find a spot in the ground for one, and see how it turns out.
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Poison Drink said: @Mrmazdarx9: Please do post some pictures of your plant! Are you growing it in a pot or in the ground? I was wondering if I could overwinter my older Ephedra plants in a pot outdoors. I have seen a bunch of Ephedra spp. outdoors in the ground in several botanical gardens. That's why I'm thinking a lot of Ephedra spp. are able to survive outdoors in West-Europe. There is of course a huge difference between growing them in a pot vs in the ground.
The Ephedra seedlings are growing slowly but steadily. From left to right: E. minima, E. americana and E. chilensis.
None of the seedlings suffer from yellow growth tips. Mine are just getting filtered sunlight, so I'm leaning in the direction of too much light. Or maybe you over fertilized them?
I'm also growing two unidentified Ephedra spp. which aren't pictured above. One Ephedra sp. with bluish hue (motherplant pictured in the opening post), and the other Ephedra sp. with white seed cones. I will keep visiting the botanical garden over the years so I can hopefully one day find out what species they are.
The two Ephedra plants I started from seed last year have pushed out quite some new growth after I repotted them. They're still indoors, but I placed them under the HPS light a couple of months ago. From left to right: E. major and E. sinica.

Sorry I forgot I work nights so fell straight to sleep when i got home lol. Ill take a pic in the morning. Yeah its in a pot at the mo, my garden is too much of a mess to plant it out there yet plus im moving soon. This species is a cold species all the photos of it are usually covered in snow. How do cuttings take with ephedra, ive wanted to take a few clones as im never lucky with seeds.
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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: MeanGreen]
#26182129 - 09/11/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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The first picture is of three pots with E. minima plants, the next picture is of one pot with E. americana plants etc. I realize now it could be interpreted differently.
I've seen E. fragilis growing in the ground in at least two different botanical gardens. And if it's possible in my climate, I'm sure you will manage as well. Usually the Ephedra plants grow on a hill or rock garden to ensure good drainage in the wetter seasons. Speaking of E. fragilis, here's a var. campylopoda sucker cutting growing a new root after a couple of weeks:

So taking sucker cuttings with a small portion of root still attached is a way to propagate Ephedra, but success is not guaranteed. Especially sucker cuttings with a thicker, woody stem never seemed to work out for me. Regular cuttings are almost impossible to root from what I've read.
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Ok cool ill have to have a play with it, ill buy more seeds too see if i cant have any luck.
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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#26183501 - 09/12/19 08:05 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its a little untidy My Ephedra distachya ssp. helvetica
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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#26183735 - 09/12/19 10:12 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Beautiful plant! Do you keep it outdoors or in an unheated room during the winter perhaps?
Just for clarification, the sucker cutting I posted about above is normally planted in sowing and cutting soil with some added sand and perlite. I had just unearthed it to see if it was doing anything, since it was sitting for over a month and hadn't grown any new shoots. I got a little impatient and broke off another piece of new root in the process..
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It currently just sits in the window ledge in my kitchen which is usually unheated.
Ok great ill remember that
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The E. fragilis var. campylopoda sucker cutting I posted about a month ago has pushed out a lot of new growth in the meanwhile. I'm assuming it has rooted just fine by now, but I won't be digging it up again anytime soon.

The E. aphylla Forssk. is still happily growing outdoors. It has produced more pollen cones (and not seed cones as I called it a while ago). Most Ephedra spp. are dioecious, so chances are practically nihil it'll get pollinated. I do have two sucker cuttings growing together in one pot, but I'm assuming they came from one mother plant. The second cutting is rather small and not flowering though.
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the first two photos are E. Minima the seeds where sent by a very generous shroomery member... You know who you are. Thanks again fir helping me add this plant to my collection. And the last is an E. Sinica one of the first ones I started from 100 pack of seeds purchased on a Internet auction site, I would not suggest people look there fir seeds though out of those 100 that's the only one that sprouted.
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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: Crispy224]
#26370864 - 12/09/19 12:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those E. minima are looking great Crispy, well done! Mine are chugging along slowly, going into winter soon. They're still growing in a little greenhouse in front of a south facing window, together with a couple other Ephedra spp. I occasionally turn on a 20W aquarium CFL because the days are so short these days.
My two biggest plants' stems have cracked open at the base. I suppose it's due to being kept too wet for a couple of weeks, when they were still outdoors in rainy weather. I haven't watered them yet after I brought them indoors, and will keep them on the dry side. I don't think they suffered too much though since the pictured E. viridis is already pushing out new shoots.

Also, I bound the E. aphylla together so that they fit in a tight spot. I've read this species sometimes exhibits a climbing liana habit, which my plants seems to demonstrate. It's my fastest growing Ephedra specie.
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Ephedra lovers out there...Ahoy!! Im hoping someone out there with some experience with these plants can possibly help me...
This plant was passed onto me without a name except I was told its "very special" Im guessing (and hoping) its some kind of ephedra??
 It has some clear/white fruit/seed on it at the moment.
 Ive had a look on google but cant seem to match it to anything. Any thoughts/ideas as to what I have
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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: Zifozonke]
#26544816 - 03/19/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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quite possibly a rhipsalis
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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: Feroxx]
#26545396 - 03/19/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry, brother. That's not a Ephedra. It is a Euphorbia, likely Euphorbia tirucalli.
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Thanks for that turtle.. I didnt even think of looking at the euphorbias cause I was told its "special"...oh well-it will still be planted out and loved nontheless-but damn I was really hoping for something else.....
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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: Zifozonke]
#26559580 - 03/26/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So are you all growing this to use as medicinal plants, ornanentals or do you plan to extract the actives?
Read that ephedra grows wild in afghanistan and they have turned to harvesting it for meths
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Sugabearcrisp said: So are you all growing this to use as medicinal plants, ornanentals or do you plan to extract the actives?
From what I know you can get an amphetamine type rush even when ingesting ephedra in plant form, without any extraction. Sounds like the type of plant matter I would like to have with me when a bit of an extra mental oomph might be needed to get something done.
I haven't tried using or growing so far but I might get my hands on some seeds soon and I'd like to try it mostly out of curiosity. Also I can't say no to its medicinal properties since my lungs are shit
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Does anyone know if you can grow Ephedras from cuttings, or maybe layering? Or can you only grow them from seeds?
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Some people on this thread grew them from cuttings successfully
I think it might be better than seeds since seeds go bad pretty fast
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Here's how my Ephedra plants are doing this summer.
The two oldest plants, E. viridis and E. nevadensis I bought around two years ago as small plants. I should probably give them a bigger pot as I'm planning to overwinter them outdoors this year.
I also had one E. sinica and E. major plant which were grown from old seeds. After putting them outdoors at the end of spring, there was a heatwave with lots of sun, which fried the E. major. Its stump is still a bit bendy so I'm keeping it around, but it's been like that for a couple of months so I don't have much hope. The E. sinica survived and is still chugging along!

This was a seedling from last year which was kept outdoors during winter in a plastic greenhouse. It was an experiment to see if it would survive. Here's a picture of four months ago after it started pushing out new growth after winter.

It obviously didn't mind being outdoors and sprung back to life when the first sun hit again and has been growing beautifully since. Here's a picture from today. It's an unidentified Ephedra sp.

The E. aphylla Forssk. took a beating from the heatwave as well but recovered.

The seedlings from last year are still indoors in a mini greenhouse. It's the E. minima, E. americana, E. chilensis and two unidentified Ephedra spp.
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It's been a year since I last posted pictures of my Ephedra plants, so time for an update! I repotted all of them at the end of last summer, and kept them outdoors during winter, right until it started freezing day and night for over a week. After a day or two in this freezing cold and snow, I decided to bring them indoors to prevent the roots from freezing entirely.

When the weather got a bit milder again, I put them back outdoors. For some reason it has taken quite a while for them to start pushing out new growth. I had to remove a fair amount of yellow, dead stems after winter, so some plants look smaller than a year ago. Sadly most of my younger seed grown plants didn't survive winter. I forgot to water them for a too long period one time, so only one E. minima has survived.
E. nevadensis:
E. viridis:
E. aphylla:
E. minima and E. sinica:

Unknown Ephedra sp.:
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