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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: BattyKoda] * 1
    #26120238 - 07/20/19 04:49 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Very impressive! You still have a good germination rate for those older E. sinica seeds, especially considering they've been sown only three days ago. It's interesting to see the two Ephedra spp. germinate together so you can compare both of them. They have been used in traditional medicine in China and Japan for several thousand years.


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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: Poison Drink]
    #26122299 - 07/21/19 05:28 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I was very impressed myself!

Those seeds are almost if not more than a year old.
Maybe the 48 hr soak was the best option for the older seeds.

I only soaked minima 24hr since they were so fresh.

Super happy they are going well so far not only for myself but the thread!

Ive read alot of the uses, history, and effects but like you said I could never find good information about the cultuvation from seed to seed pods.
Hence why I put the sinca on the back burner.


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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: BattyKoda]
    #26122713 - 07/21/19 09:30 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I'm fairly sure one E. minima seed has sprouted two seedlings, which might be conjoined twins. Interested to see how it/they will develop! These seeds were sown one month ago and I will likely lose two due to stuck cotyledons or mold.



The seedlings below I had sown one or two weeks later, but they seem to be doing better. They are the ones growing without a humidity dome.



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    #26123345 - 08/05/19 10:20 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: LifeUnderAwno] * 1
    #26123510 - 08/06/19 01:38 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Two weeks ago, I sowed the fresh Ephedra spp. seeds I had picked. I decided to sow a few of the 'old' E. minima seeds as well to see if they would still readily germinate. I definitely noticed a difference, since a lot of the other seeds have germinated by now whilst the E. minima seeds are just beginning to emerge. I suppose they will just take a while longer though and will mostly all germinate eventually..

I don't use a humidity dome anymore for the seed(ling)s, but they're in a mini greenhouse which might raise humidity a bit. I also don't water them that frequently anymore. I haven't added any sand to the soil mixture yet, since I'm growing them indoors. When they're exposed to the elements outdoors, I would definitely provide a high mineral content soil with added sand to ensure good drainage.

I can also confirm that a tea made of dried E. minima seed cones is definitely active. If there's one pharmaceutical I'm using with some regularity, it's (pseudo-)ephedrine containing medicine. So I'm extremely stoked that I can utilize a home grown, plant based tea in the future!

I repotted the E. aphylla Forssk. cuttings into one pot and placed it outdoors in a somewhat shady spot to acclimatize to outdoor conditions. I believe it's my fastest growing Ephedra sp. so I'm interested to see how it will grow now that it's outdoors.

The outdoor plants from left to right: E. viridis, E. nevadensis and E. aphylla Forssk.

   


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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: Poison Drink]
    #26123708 - 08/06/19 06:40 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Ohhh poison drink ive got some picture's!!!:supersaiyan:



Whew that was a pain in the butt.
I'll try and organize/date them later.


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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: BattyKoda]
    #26124608 - 08/06/19 06:16 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Niceee, are you using grow light?


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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: xisbi]
    #26124725 - 08/06/19 07:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks!
I'm using a hlg 100 3000k quantum board.


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    #26126653 - 08/08/19 09:00 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Great to see these seeds being grown around the world! Here are some E. minima seedlings of about 1,5 month old.



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    #26137042 - 08/15/19 11:52 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: LifeUnderAwno] * 1
    #26140616 - 08/17/19 09:25 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Got me some seeds :popcorn:


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    #26141719 - 08/18/19 04:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

As far as I understand it, two incredibly small leaves grow on each node.

The seed coat occasionally keeps attached to the tip of the cotyledons. The seedling might succumb if you try to remove the seed coat too soon and damage the emerging plantlet. I did remove a couple of seed coats which were getting moldy, but most of them survived because a large portion of the cotyledons were still intact and could perform enough photosynthesis for new growth. But if it's not necessary to remove the seed coats, I just leave them be.

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Got me some seeds :popcorn:




Which Ephedra spp. will you be growing?

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Soon i’ll have more than i know what to do with. :thumbup:




Tell me about it.. :hehehe:



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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: Poison Drink]
    #26146395 - 08/21/19 02:03 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Ephedra sinica


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    #26147657 - 08/22/19 09:30 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: JayWise]
    #26147727 - 08/22/19 10:11 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

My E.Minima has sprouted and i have 4-5 seedlings 4-5cm tall.
I have lots of green algae on top of the soil, maybe i should replant them in new bigger pots.
I would like to wait a little bit though so as long the seedlings seem healthy i dont have any rush to do it.
Haven´t taken any pics yet, i can do after the repot soon.


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    #26177464 - 09/09/19 10:38 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

My E. aphylla Forssk. has completely unexpectedly produced a single seed cone! The plant was grown from a small sucker cutting I took barely three months ago. Sadly I haven't seen it flowering.

 


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    #26179921 - 09/10/19 03:03 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone know why Ephedra tips might yellow? Underwatering? Overwatering? Too much sun?

Got a couple that arent looking great. Not sure how to make it better...




Some of my small Ephedra seedlings have this yellow/dry tips also.
I have thought they had too strong light and/or maybe too dry at some timeperiod.
Seems like new growth tips are little sensitive.


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Re: Ephedra Growers Unite [Re: Mateo]
    #26180619 - 09/10/19 09:46 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Ive had my little ephedra for a couple years now. Its not a sinica for some reason I cant get them to germinate, ive tried 100s of seeds and many different methods and substrates. Its a Ephedra distachya ssp. helvetica, or swiss joint pine. It likes cold weather so i can grow it in the UK with no issues, also as a bonus has a good amount alkaloids too. Ill post a pic when i get home.


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    #26181566 - 09/11/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

@Mrmazdarx9: Please do post some pictures of your plant! Are you growing it in a pot or in the ground? I was wondering if I could overwinter my older Ephedra plants in a pot outdoors. I have seen a bunch of Ephedra spp. outdoors in the ground in several botanical gardens. That's why I'm thinking a lot of Ephedra spp. are able to survive outdoors in West-Europe. There is of course a huge difference between growing them in a pot vs in the ground.

The Ephedra seedlings are growing slowly but steadily. From left to right: E. minima, E. americana and E. chilensis.

     

None of the seedlings suffer from yellow growth tips. Mine are just getting filtered sunlight, so I'm leaning in the direction of too much light. Or maybe you over fertilized them?

I'm also growing two unidentified Ephedra spp. which aren't pictured above. One Ephedra sp. with bluish hue (motherplant pictured in the opening post), and the other Ephedra sp. with white seed cones. I will keep visiting the botanical garden over the years so I can hopefully one day find out what species they are.

The two Ephedra plants I started from seed last year have pushed out quite some new growth after I repotted them. They're still indoors, but I placed them under the HPS light a couple of months ago. From left to right: E. major and E. sinica.

 


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