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mushroomnate
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Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE 1
#26056634 - 06/16/19 10:17 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I keep seeing it thru the posts,and especially from APE swabs I've sent out.(MN APE,(n)APES) APE not fruiting as..APE.

Sometimes I've seen the fruits come out non APE like,but unique in their own way.
Who here has attempted to grow APE from a swab(or otherwise)and it not come out looking like APE?
Share your pics,experience(potency,growth),or any other info here. Unfortunately,I don't have any pics to contribute,so post 'em if you got 'em. (I do have a MS culture from a print of one of these non-APE that was sent back to me,that I'll share as soon as it gets interesting)
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: mushroomnate]
#26056641 - 06/16/19 10:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got swab from you but I just put it on plates.
Update later.
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: newtomyc]
#26056667 - 06/16/19 10:39 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got nothing out of the swab I got from you... i still have it, I'll try cutting a piece of filament instead of swiping.
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: newtomyc]
#26056699 - 06/16/19 10:58 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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if you read josex old posts on ape he concluded that swabs from genuine ape do not in his experience fruit ape but something else. he found that the only way to fruit real ape was from a syringe from worker of spores.
maybe its degrading after one generation orrr perhaps the culture isnt stabilized. has anyone looked at a genuine syringe under a scope to see whats going on there?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25285991#25285991
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My first APE tub, getting there slowly but surely. 
Fuckkkk doggie, that is amazing. I have had no germination with any PE, APE, and PEU swabs I ever had. The PEU swab worked but it produced something strange. Wasn't pe but didn't really look like a cube. It stained blue like a mother fucker and was strong as hell. I made a few prints from that grow I might have to swab some of them and see what happens.
Yeah, some APE fruits can produce non-albino spores, see here.
I've had 3 APE swabs and not a single one produced the real deal, although I grew some gnarly looking shrooms from those swabs.

Swabs can be tough to germinate and very often bacterial. If you happen to get your hands on another swab, see third link in my sig, scroll down till the end, that's how I managed to germinate all those swabs.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25294606#25294606
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Josex said: I just labelled it that way for lack of imagination, just added an "x" at the end and that was it. That's what I would write down on the plates, "APEX".
It's a luecistic clone that came from an APE swab, but it ain't APE, although it has some PE traits and certainly doesn't look like a regular cube.
These pics are the daddy of the plate I posted above. The clone I posted above is one generation from the original clone.
 
And this is the original clone on agar.

Spores from this clone produced some interesting shit. Most were leucistic, some albino (could be sporeless, who knows) and all resembled their dad pretty closely. I even had a puck that produced obvious actual APE fruits, but a bit stranger.

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bw86
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: JHOVA]
#26057001 - 06/17/19 05:20 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Interesting. Well it seems to me that the Albino gene of ape wasn't stable. Over the years growers were not so anal about what fruits got swabbed more and more of the old genetics are reemerging. More amateur mycologist swabs and less vendor made syringes broadend the gene pool. Not necessarily a bad thing. A good reason to go with a sponsor if you want to be sure you have the " real deal"
Edited by bw86 (06/17/19 05:21 AM)
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: bw86]
#26057013 - 06/17/19 05:41 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: Dunedinite]
#26057091 - 06/17/19 06:53 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Got a swab from a tc.

Not ape at all but pretty mushrooms nonetheless.
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: mushboy]
#26057124 - 06/17/19 07:23 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah but who did the TC get a swab from?
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: bw86]
#26057131 - 06/17/19 07:29 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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He made it himself from fruits he grew using vendor syringe
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: mushboy]
#26057133 - 06/17/19 07:33 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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APE is weird for sure. I worked with getting APE spores to josex for a minute because the swabs I was sending him kept throwing out those weird non APE fruits.
He got swabs from a couple people if I'm not mistaken and they all turned out not APE. Darndest thing for sure.
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: mushboy]
#26057138 - 06/17/19 07:41 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Got a swab from a tc.

Not ape at all but pretty mushrooms nonetheless.
Nice pic of Eddie in the back ground!!!
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: newtomyc]
#26057147 - 06/17/19 07:53 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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is workman still at sporeworks?
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: mushboy]
#26057149 - 06/17/19 07:56 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Got a swab from a tc.

Not ape at all but pretty mushrooms nonetheless.
I got it from him too no ape
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: van hatton]
#26059297 - 06/18/19 09:18 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Grew similar to RW, but slightly datker spores, if any.
 Bruised dark
 Fun marshmallow cap 2nd flush common
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: Failboat]
#26059406 - 06/18/19 10:57 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's my grow out of it: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25871458#25871458
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ShaperDreaming said: So, here's my NAPES (the weirdos that came from Nate's APE swab). I can NOT believe how much blue is in them. I'm super excited to try them out. I took prints of anything that wasn't sterile, I have about 8 prints I'd be willing to send out if they're decent and someone wanted to fuck around with them (EDIT FROM THE FUTURE, all gone!) ... one special boy dropped a few spores and I'm both going to clone him and work from the spore...
IF they are as potent as the amount of blue seems to indicate.
3pt spawn, 2 shoeboxes, 1:2 coir only, top layers of coir only.
The "canopy"
 
This cap, when I cut it to print, looked almost BLACK it was so deep blue. This special boy dropped so few spores, but I got a print...

Full and fluffy stipes!

Outcome... only 260g wet

I'm currently working on isolating two different mushroom clones from this first flush of them. They were super nasty when I got them onto agar (I sat them in my fridge for about a week... which was likely the reason). They're getting pretty clean now:

I want to see if I can stabalize this with the neat phenos that it produced (almost leucetic with blue caps and full spongy stipes (honestly, they kinda felt like eating cheetos after I dehydrated them )).
Edited by ShaperDreaming (06/18/19 11:10 AM)
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: ShaperDreaming]
#26059417 - 06/18/19 11:04 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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NAPE strain
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: bw86]
#26060048 - 06/18/19 05:01 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've had several mediocre non APE APE's and went back to my sponsor syringe I thought wasn't worth my time because it looked like it was full of bacteria. Countless transfers and months of work I finally have pins that are definitely APE. Hopefully the swabs or prints I distribute to the community carry the APE traits. Definitely going to get a clone on a slant though.
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: Grimsweeper]
#26060102 - 06/18/19 05:15 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just starting my APE from syringe from workman. but will tissue from a APE produce a APE? Im sure it would but I figure ill ask since this thread is going. I was supposed to send someone a swab but now im not sure. maybe a can mail a pastyplate. I dunno.
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: bw86]
#26060193 - 06/18/19 05:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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bw86 said: is workman still at sporeworks?
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Re: Mushroom (n)APEs! WTF!? These are NOT APE!(..are they?) Post your (Not)APE [Re: bw86]
#26060197 - 06/18/19 05:49 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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bw86 said:
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bw86 said: is workman still at sporeworks?
Yes, I believe so, if not his hard work is.
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