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Oysters on straw, first flush
    #2605633 - 04/27/04 05:28 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)




I harvested 75 lbs from these 5 columns first flush. They're pinning like mad right now, the second flush is coming on strong! :laugh:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2605684 - 04/27/04 10:22 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

How big are these things ?


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2605699 - 04/27/04 10:29 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

:shocked:

good job :thumbup:

how much spawn did those things take?

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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2605921 - 04/27/04 11:45 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Awesome :smile:

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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2606115 - 04/27/04 01:29 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Money, money, money!


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: creekfarmer]
    #2606439 - 04/27/04 03:01 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

They're all about 6' tall, I used about 12 lbs of spawn per column.
You know it, money,money,money :wink:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2606535 - 04/27/04 03:21 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

How many flushes do you do inside? How much straw is in each column?


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: YidakiMan]
    #2606878 - 04/27/04 04:24 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Three flushes, I could probably get more out of them, but I don't think it's worth the contam risks. Each column has a little less than a bale of straw in it. I made 12 columns with 11 bales, one of the columns is a 3' runt though.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2606977 - 04/27/04 04:53 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

About 130-150 lbs of spawn?
I think that would take me a solid day with my AA941.

Do you work by yourself?


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: YidakiMan]
    #2607081 - 04/27/04 05:24 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yes about 150 lbs(wet) I primarily work alone, occasionally I have help. If I pack all 3 AA75x's full I can do about 140 lbs per run :laugh:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2607368 - 04/27/04 06:39 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

How do you pastuerize your straw?


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: creekfarmer]
    #2607545 - 04/27/04 07:15 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

In a 55 gallon drum. I bought a turkey fryer at lowes, it has a 140000 btu burner that runs off a propane tank, I set 4 cinder blocks on end then the barrel on top of that. I made a basket from chicken wire that is slightly smaller than the barrel, I pack it with straw and heat the water till it's about 160-170 then submerge the basket of straw for 1-1 1/2 hours. The straw tends to float and lift the basket out of the barrel, so I use a c-clamp to hook it to the rim and set a cinder block on top of the straw to keep it submerged.
I rigged a pulley to lift the basket out of the water when it is done pastuerizing. I lift the basket out of the water and let it hang till no water runs out of it. Once the straw is drained I dump it out on a tarp spread on the floor and spread it around with a rake and let it cool.
I mix the spawn in by hand,  I cut holes in the tubing then pack it in  a little bit at a time, tamp it on the floor repeating that till the column is filled. I close the top of the tubing with a zip-tie and put a few slits in the bag, then the column is inverted and tamped down a final time and hung in the growroom. After the column has settled for 15-30 minutes I punch holes with broadheads attached to a board.
I just followed what Stamets laid out in TMC and GGMM :smile:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2650657 - 05/07/04 05:41 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

How did you do selling all those mushrooms?


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: creekfarmer]
    #2654610 - 05/08/04 09:31 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

they sold themselves in about an hour and a half. I have harvested about three times that since then, The columns in the pictures are on their 3rd flush since I took them, the pictures were about a week old when I posted them. I've only had 5 lbs of it all that wasn't sold, and only because it didn't seem worth taking out one flat to sell. Those are being dried for sale later :wink:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2660306 - 05/10/04 06:36 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

NIce werk mate.

Looks awesome!!! Good idear.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2772890 - 06/07/04 09:45 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Hey brainbreath,

what did you do to that room before you started growing in it? ie. vapor barriers, insulation, etc....


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2774097 - 06/08/04 09:57 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: YidakiMan]
    #2780148 - 06/10/04 04:46 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I built the room in an unfinished basement. I built the frame on 4"x4"s so that it's raised off the floor in order to put drains in. I framed the walls and then wrapped the entire room in tyvek, then 2 layers of 6mil sheeting. No insulation was neccesary :smile:
The 12 columns I had when those pics were taken yielded just under 900 lbs :cool:
Having it in the basement really sucks 'cause it makes moving the columns in and out a real pain. I have 4 10'x20' growrooms on the way, small greenhouses basically. They should be set up by this time next week. They're going to be temporary structures until I can buy some land and build permanent structures . I can't wait! :laugh:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2781007 - 06/10/04 12:02 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Thats sweet man. I asked cuz Im working on renovating a room 8 x 4 into my own little grow room. Its sounds like I am on the right track so far. Could you explain the drains a little bit better?


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: YidakiMan]
    #2783401 - 06/11/04 12:55 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

There are 2 floor drains in the growroom, about 1/3 and 2/3 of the way down. The drains are just 2"pvc elbows with a little grate insert, the pipes are on a slight slope in the direction of the arrows. The total drop from the farthest drain to the sump pump is 4". The drain from the cleanroom is teed in downstream from both of the growroom drains to prevent water from backing up into the growroom. Total drop from the cleanroom sink is about 3'. I have it drain to the sump because the only place I could connect to the house drains without making some major changes is where the washing machine drains, which is 4' off of the floor.

Floor drains are necessary if you want to be able to clean the growroom really well. I have a spigot with a garden hose for spraying the room down, I bleach bomb it in the morning after harvesting, hose it down really well, then squeegee the water to the floor drains. At night I just hose the room down and get all the water out I can.
I never apply bleach directly to the columns but have found spraying them down well with the hose helps keep them from getting nasty from spores. Oysters drop alot of spores and the columns end up getting pretty nasty if they're not kept clean, The only contams I've had were on the layer of spores that was coatinng the columns. Live and learn.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2783686 - 06/11/04 02:59 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

mmm tasty!


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2808658 - 06/19/04 01:15 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

brainbreath, i understand everything you've described so-far except for the drainage, and the construction of the floor; i can't seem to make heads or tails of the diagram you made.. but i truly want to understand what it is your doing.

Also, what kind of 10'X20' extra-rooms are you speaking of? do you have a picture, or a company name (website) you can acquire such rooms from?


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2809547 - 06/19/04 09:30 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Excellent!! always nice to see people growing for markets.
Congrats on a fantastic grow and such keen initiative.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #2815578 - 06/22/04 12:19 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I hope this diagram will help a little. It's not to scale, and I think I may be wrong on the pvc size. I think the pvc is 1 1/2" not 2". The water follows the slope of the pipe to the sump pump where it is pumped to the sewer drain.
The 2"x4" supports for the floor are spaced 2' apart and the 4"x4"s are roughly 2 1/2' apart. Plywood is nailed on top, then it's covered with tyvek and a couple layers of plastic sheeting.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2817286 - 06/22/04 03:41 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

wow, nice work, brainbreath  :bow:

how much did they go for, a pound? and what is making all the humid air - coolmists, ultrasonics, what?
are there built-in fans?

:thumbup: :thumbup: impressed


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: shirley knott]
    #2818807 - 06/22/04 10:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks  :smile:
The ventilation system I'm using is FP's air system II that I modified a bit.

The humidifier died on me pretty quick, so I removed the inner parts and dropped a 5 disc fogger from mainland mart in the housing. The fogger made the sprayers unnecesary, so I took them out. At the opposite end of the room there is a 6" exhaust fan.
They were sold for $25-$40 a 5 lb flat ($5-$8 a lb)


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2826581 - 06/25/04 02:56 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Did you put the ventilation system together yourself? or did you purchase the Air System II from FP?
I have just been building my slab for a 10mx5m tunnel and did the entire air system on my own with the help of a friend for litterally 1/4 the price.

You certainly have the right idea :laugh:

I`m interested in your drainage, do you think it`s necessary to have drainage?
I just mop up all excess in the room.
Also I find because of the inrcreased pressure in the room I get a lower spore load on the bags.

Once I have my latest tunnel complete I`ll post some images.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2830267 - 06/26/04 11:45 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

You guys are awesome!  Sure wish I had the resources and confidence to take on such an endeavour!

Thanks for sharing! :smile:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: Olgualion]
    #2832586 - 06/27/04 08:17 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

beautiful, man, 5 shrooms for you :smile:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #2832841 - 06/27/04 11:00 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I bought the ASII from FP, I knew it could be done for less $$ but it was easier to do it prefab(I thought) With the problems I have had with it I would have been better off building my own.
I originally planned on just mopping up the water, but it doesn't work-there's just too much water. Absolutely necessary, drainage that is.
I don't understand about a decreased spore load on the bags? My grow is pressurized, the spores coat everything -the floor, walls, ceiling, the columns, lights- if I don't clean the exhaust fan daily it gets so coated with spores it will burn it up! No joke, I've had to replace the exhaust fan twice because I didn't keep on top of it.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2832918 - 06/27/04 11:37 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

My tunnels are generally slanted downwards and most of the moisture builds up on one side of the tunnel.
I use a super-mop to soak up excess.
By my reckoning a drainage hole was going to create an entrance point fr contams so I rather do manual mopping.

Regarding the exhaust fan I`m also a bit confused.
The asII is supposed to be able to handle 3000 - 20,000 cubic feet? by my reckoning you are loosing a fair amount of pressure by not creating the correct active pressure.
Just oversizing an environment system doesn`t mean it works.

I try to spec out my system to the size of the tunnel and a few cubic meters more.
I find it maintains very well.
Overspec in my opinion causes burn-out of parts because of incorrect operational settings.

Don`t get me wrong, I like what you have done.
I just don`t personally rate the system too highly.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #2833001 - 06/27/04 12:13 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

How do you mop up after cleaning? I din't originally have drains, but it was impossible to maintain. I found 2 problems with not having a drain, the first being the daily cleaning needed to keep the mess of spores constantly generated by the mushrooms under control, and the fact that the growroom is flooded after cleaning.  I don't see how you could possibly get away with growing in a large space and not have to hose it down daily, at least once(I do twice daily)which would leave you with so much water on the floor you couldn't mop it up efficiently.
If your system was positively pressurized no contams would get in through the drain, airflow would be down and out :wink:
I added an exhaust fan because I have less than 3000 cubic feet, there was too much backpressure. The burnout is definitely not from "overspec" the spores physically block the operation of the fan and cause it to burn out.
I don't rate the system too highly either, IMO it's junk. The only original parts still on it are the blower and the mixer box, expensive lesson :mad2:


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2833071 - 06/27/04 12:35 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I hear what you`re saying.
I mop :smile:

It`s not like I`m going anywhere.
And I do mop it effeciently.

Other than that we agree the system is pretty shyte.
I`m surprised your blowers haven`t all bombed out.

Great job though.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #2833096 - 06/27/04 12:41 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

The most reasen system I am thinking of putting a run-off valve at the bottom of the slope just to make the actual removing off the water faster.
Becomes a bit of a mission to do all the work.
Easier to drain in many respects but as I said, time is no issue, if it is then I`d agree with your drainage.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #2834745 - 06/27/04 11:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Now that I think of it, the blower isn't the original. I swapped it for a blower with less cfm because the original had too much power.


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Re: Oysters on straw, first flush [Re: brainbreath]
    #2835201 - 06/28/04 02:30 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

hahahaha, thought ass much.
The axial fans I use produce a better flow rate while not being overpowered like those squirril cage style fans.
Also the axial fans last longer from my experience.

Cool to chat to you though Brainbreath.
A man like myself.
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