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OfflineCalm_A_Llama_Down
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Re: Stopped drinking, heavy kickback. [Re: Northerner]
    #26049694 - 06/13/19 08:08 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Why are you so against anti depressants? I don't feel strong one way or another, just curious.


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Re: Stopped drinking, heavy kickback. [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down] * 1
    #26049708 - 06/13/19 08:18 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
Why are you so against anti depressants? I don't feel strong one way or another, just curious.





If you are on antidepressants, chances are you don't feel strong one way or another. Plus, withdrawals are a beach full of sand fleas.


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Re: Stopped drinking, heavy kickback. [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down] * 1
    #26049740 - 06/13/19 08:37 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
Why are you so against anti depressants? I don't feel strong one way or another, just curious.



This example is just further evidence of them throwing pills at shit they don’t understand:shrug:

Imagine the can of worms he would have opened by listening..


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Re: Stopped drinking, heavy kickback. [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #26049776 - 06/13/19 08:57 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Antidepressants rob you of your humanness and then you have to worry about side effects and whether or not they actually know how to prescribe this shit because the overlap in mental health medications is discretionary. "Here, take this. It'll make you feel better - I mean less.. you may also want to kill yourself more than before. Lots of people like it, let me know how it goes!"


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Re: Stopped drinking, heavy kickback. [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26049870 - 06/13/19 09:57 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Really good to hear! I know the feeling of being free of the stranglehold that alcoholism  has on some of us. I have a few 24 hrs. without a drink now and the old extended withdrawals have long since faded away.
There were times where I woke up feeling  like shit for no reason and it lasted through the day...the next day would be euphoric with no ryhyme or reason. This stuff lasted at least through the first year.

Be prepared for wild mood swings for no real reason and let your wife know that they are nothing personal because some angst may be directed at her or the kids, if you have them.

My last advice is to never take that first drink for any reason. It is much easier for us to stay away from the first one than it is the third. An old friend of mine used to say..."It's not the caboose that kills ya."

Good luck man and if you ever want to chat about anything, please shoot me a:pm:  :sunny::peace:


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Re: Stopped drinking, heavy kickback. [Re: Thayendanegea] * 2
    #26050122 - 06/13/19 12:18 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

my heart goes out to you dude.you got this. i started drinking really heavily a couple years back to try and cope with loss. (my dad and grandmother who half-raised me died within 5 months of each other)  it ended up transforming from an unhealthy coping mechanism to me just drinking for no other reason than i wanted to. i was drinking about a 30 pack every 2 days and spending about $50-$200 a week on blow. i got pulled over wasted and it ended up costing me my car/license/job.

so i decided to go cold turkey. seemed like a good idea. it's too easy for me to turn casual drinking with friends into a 3-month long perpetual buzz. im just over 7 months sober now (booze anyway). 

alcohol can be a fun drug, it's just not worth it for me.


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Re: Stopped drinking, heavy kickback. [Re: sooperdooper]
    #26050355 - 06/13/19 02:19 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for your support everyone. It's been a long road to finally stop drinking. I read about growing out of various forms of addiction, and I can say that my experience with several substances mirrors this closely. It was just time for me to stop.

I don't have mood swings, I'm not freaking out, I'm a million percent better and everyone in my life is better for it. Life is good. I'm not struggling not to drink, I don't have impulses. I'm not a dry drunk. There is no life long addiction for everyone, that is a lie.

When I went to that doof a few weeks back I drank a bit. It just feels awful to me now. The connected memories and feelings have made me hate it. Tastes good, feels good for an hour, then bring the misery. Meh.

It's a closed chapter in my life as far as I am concerned. I do not dwell on it. I am not trying to quit alcohol. I just don't drink anymore because I don't like it. It's very simple.

I really do appreciate your support though guys.  :heart:


About antidepressants...

Fucking with peoples brain chemistry wantonly because they are having a hard time with life or experiencing pain is a corporate pharma scam. They have to be the most over prescribed class of medication out there. The changes that these drugs create in the brain can be irreversible and cause far more misery than the problems they were initially prescribed to help with. Even the weaning regimen that is advised by the pharma co's often causes brain injury and leaves the patient permanently addicted to the drugs.

In the right cases, where the risks outweigh the chance of suicide or life ruining pain, there is a place for them. But this needs to be assessed against the risks.

People seem to forget though that life is challenging. That the contrast of the bad times is what makes the good times good, otherwise everything would be very average. There is no magic pill to make everything easy, the only place people have perfect lives is in Facebook feeds, and only then because it's a blinkered version of the truth where none of the bad ever gets posted. There's no likes for the cold truth.

I have 2 family members who are addicted to this shit. Doctors don't know how to help, they only know what it says on the package insert. Fortunately there are support groups online that can help a bit, and now the psychiatric profession is starting to realise they have been lied to as well.

I urge anyone taking these drugs or considering taking them to do your research. Look at the long term outcomes for people taking these medications in studies. They are often worse than placebo.


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Re: Stopped drinking, heavy kickback. [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26050456 - 06/13/19 03:21 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

@sooper, nice one man. Very similar to my experience  it took me like 20 years to realise how deep I was slipping in to problem drinking though.

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It just feels awful to me now. The connected memories and feelings have made me hate it. Tastes good, feels good for an hour, then bring the misery. Meh.



Dude, definitely this helps me not take the first drink. I know for a fact after the first hour I'll feel like pure shite and be what was the point in that but with the added bonus of being back to square 1 and drinking like a cunt again.

Just my 2 pence on antidepressants, they desensitise yer dick and you cant cum. That was reason enough for me to stop taking them.:nodofunderstanding:


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