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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Deep South]
    #26273096 - 10/24/19 02:29 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Warning, don't buy cheap agar from ali express.

It is more likely gelatin. Gelss at lower temperature, stays stretchy and doesn't adhere well to glass/plastic petri


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Bobbit]
    #26273106 - 10/24/19 02:40 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Warning, don't buy cheap agar from ali express.

It is more likely gelatin. Gelss at lower temperature, stays stretchy and doesn't adhere well to glass/plastic petri




:lol: was just about to post this, I got the 500g from Aliexpress for $34.76 dunedinite linked in the original post. ~15 g to 500 mL of water has made a gloopy soft agar, hopefully it still works. When sliding the cooled petris I only slightly jerked them and the agar splashed up onto the lid :sad:


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: chipsandwich]
    #26273191 - 10/24/19 04:52 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

The china sourced gelatin listed as agar is rubbish for this hobbie. I still have my 500g of gelatin purchased on ebay lying around somewhere. Mycelium grows into the media and breaks it down causing colonized sections to liquefy.
This food grade agar from the UK has proven to be of high quality. At 15g/l it'll set very firm.


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: bobwastaken] * 1
    #26273198 - 10/24/19 04:58 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I did some tests of the 'agar' from China.
It is not agar and does not contain agarose beacause;
  • It dissolves and gels well below 90°C
  • It does not smell like seaweed (even lab grade stuff does), smells like animal.

I reckon its gelatin, or similar peptide mess. Sets like jelly. . .

Working on getting a refund from ali express. Wish me luck. . .


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Bobbit]
    #26273201 - 10/24/19 05:12 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Yes I knew it wasn't agar when I opened it. Experimenting with it as a substitute wasn't worth the effort. Good luck with the refund.


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: bobwastaken]
    #26274403 - 10/24/19 05:32 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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The china sourced gelatin listed as agar is rubbish for this hobbie. I still have my 500g of gelatin purchased on ebay lying around somewhere. Mycelium grows into the media and breaks it down causing colonized sections to liquefy.
This food grade agar from the UK has proven to be of high quality. At 15g/l it'll set very firm.



At that price, we're better off buying telephone agar locally. . .

1.5% seems pretty firm with telephone. Is the stuff you linked to firmer?


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Bobbit]
    #26274970 - 10/24/19 11:18 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I use Telephone, 20g/L.

I usually make 500ml batches, 10g agar, 5g light malt extract and I use distilled water, that way I always have a consistent pH.


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: inski]
    #26281452 - 10/28/19 04:36 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Harvested a 60g shroom today, immediately made 6 agar clones :laugh:

will see how the clones do in time!


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: inski]
    #26282224 - 10/28/19 12:55 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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inski said:
I usually make 500ml batches, 10g agar, 5g light malt extract and I use distilled water, that way I always have a consistent pH.



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inski said:
I'm not sure what others do, I use 20g/L agar and 16g/L light malt extract so my recipe basically has half strength nutrients, I use distilled water.



Seems changeable. . .
I read this wrong in the past and made 1.5% for both gel & nute. Which seems fine. Will try lowering to nute a little. . . Can’t hurt. . . Or can it?


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Bobbit]
    #26282703 - 10/28/19 04:27 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I recently lowered my nutes in my last transfer, altough only slightly 8g lme to 500ml Distilled water,
I haven't noticed much differece, so perhaps I'll lower it a little more too.


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: ArcadeDuck]
    #26282853 - 10/28/19 05:30 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

How do I join the club? DO I need to be in New Zeland?


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Fungi_x]
    #26282888 - 10/28/19 05:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Anyone got a suggestion for coco coir? Nervous about buying bulk from the growshop in case it is buffered. Bunnings/Mitre10 is generally overpriced.

Anyone use peat instead? Stuff is cheap as chips here.


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Slushrooms]
    #26283400 - 10/28/19 09:45 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I’ve been buying from bunnings for $3.50ish for 650g

Found this works out less than $3/kg worth a look. I don’t need 25kg yet 😳


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Bobbit]
    #26283439 - 10/28/19 10:07 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Remember to check Trade Me for supplies, I got a 23 qt Presto for $60 and 496 90 mm sterilised petris delivered for $75 :smile:


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: chipsandwich]
    #26283560 - 10/28/19 11:22 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I wonder if this could work. . .


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Bobbit]
    #26283565 - 10/28/19 11:25 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

ohhh free shit!!!!

does anyone get their test tubes and caps from NZ or mostly from overseas?


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: ArcadeDuck]
    #26284828 - 10/29/19 01:24 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

It appears that you ‘can’ use the aliexpress not agar-agar agar for cult. . .

Crazy :crazy:

These are tissue clones from stipes. . .

Not going to use further though. . .

Aliexpress gave me my money back. . . Goooo ali!


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Bobbit]
    #26299143 - 11/04/19 07:17 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I finally found some spores. . .


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Bobbit]
    #26303197 - 11/06/19 04:15 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Has anyone seen/heard from Dunedinite recently?


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Re: The Official Kiwi Cultivators Thread [Re: Dunedinite]
    #26331430 - 11/19/19 04:22 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Last month, just before going overseas for 3.5 weeks, I prepped a couple of bulk coir/manure tubs hoping they'd colonise and be ready to start fruiting by the time I came back. While I was away, there was no intervention whatsoever besides a thermostat regulating the temperature. This is what I discovered when I came back: :grin:






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